iPhone 15 overheating reports, with temperatures as high as 116F

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• rikudou@lemmings.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  46.6˚C in normal units.

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  • qooqie@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And if anyone’s wondering that’s 116°F in more normaler units

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    • TheMechanic@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Nearly 320K in the normalest units.

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    • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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    • Cornpop@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I loled. Fuck the haters

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    • StuffYouFear@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I thought it was funny. Also my upvote got you to -69

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    • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Lemmy can be pretty hostile to non-European standards. It’s weird… I wonder if Europeans are just using more accounts than Americans, and stacking votes.

      If not… Then yikes, if Lemmy is losing the American audience, that’s bad news, friends.

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    • AdamantRatPuncher@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You know if my phone suddenly reached 116 Celsius I’d have bigger problem that those.

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  • locuester@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    F makes more sense for this. It’s 0-100 on a scale of a human feeling too cold to too hot.

    In situations where what’s being discussed is touching human skin: weather, a hot phone, water temp, etc… F does give you a quicker idea of things.

    That said, downvote me away!

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    • Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It only gives YOU a quicker idea because you are used to it.

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    • rikudou@lemmings.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No need to downvote, I can handle someone having a different opinion.

      Fahrenheit doesn’t give a shit about human temperature, he based it on some obscure things (which I can’t remember right now). It doesn’t even fit with human temperature, I think human temperature is like 97 or 98 °F or something like that. The argument was made only to have some argument, it’s not a property of Fahrenheit.

      It does make exactly as much sense as Celsius with one important distinction - Celsius plays nicely with other SI units.

      Seriously, the only correct answer to how many foot-pounds does it take to heat 1 fl oz of water by 1° F is fuck you.

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  • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Stupid us units had me thinking there would be fires everywhere for a moment.

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• Kumabear@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  46c… lmfao what a stupid headline.

  That is absolutely NOT “hot” for a piece of tech under stress.

  If you had a shower that cold it would feel annoyingly tepid…

  The phone housing is the heat sync, and the phone is more powerful than many people’s few year old laptops.

  Not to defend apple but this is just trying to sensationalise and farm clicks, my pixel 7 used to get way hotter doing just normal tasks to the point I was getting overheat warnings and the screen would shut off.

  Now if it was more like 55c I could see that being an issue at least from a comfort standpoint.

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  • Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It is not comfortable to hold a 46C metal object in your hand.

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    • Patius@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It depends on how you’re holding it and how spread that heat is. 46° isn’t something great to be grasping for extended periods of time, but if you’re physically touching 30°C parts of the phone and a part with no physical contact with your skin is 46°C, it’s probably not that bad.

      My s7 edge used to hit these temps. The annoying part was the throttling and shutdowns. I never really felt like I was burning my hands using the thing.

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    • Kumabear@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s not “overheating” either though is it?

      46c is not that hot at all, that’s like half as hot as a cup of coffee.

      It’s probably not ideal… but also not at all new and about the same as my S22 ultra hits under load or when charging which runs far cooler than my previous pixel 7 which would actively overheat if you tried to run maps while charging it on a warm day, to the point it would force the screen to min brightness after about 30min.

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    • xusontha@ls.buckodr.ink ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      but it looks so cozy

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  • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I get where you’re coming from, but just because it isn’t hot when compared to a full throttle desktop CPU doesn’t mean it’s good for a device you hold with your bare hands.

    Can you name one other thing in everyday life that you hold for hours on end, that gets 45+°C?

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    • stardreamer@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Udon straight outta the pot while I try to slurp it down?

      I’m a slow eater okay?

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  • MeanEYE@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Actually it can pose quite a big problem. There’s no ventilation on phone anywhere and lithium batteries really don’t like heat, at all. In fact that’s just at the top maximum battery can take, so there’s a big chance of thermal runaway at which point whole thing might combust.

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    • time_lord@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Lithium batteries aren’t going to thermal runaway at 46ºc.

      Edit: I looked it up. it’s ~66º, so maybe closer for comfort that one would like.

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  • Gamey@feddit.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It has a battery directly next to the CPU, you can’t compare that to a desktop or Laptop and will take damage FAR sooner, especially conaidering what a pain “modern” smartphones are to repair, even something trivial like the battery almost requires a specialist!

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  • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Look here, apple fan boy. You can try to piss and moan whatever way you want, but if you read the article you’d see this was happening while charging or just watching videos and doing “light duty use”. A 116f case is absolutely not normal for that. My three+ year old phone doesn’t even get a bit warm doing any of that. If my phone went over 90f from watching videos I’d be pissed. Apple likely screwed something up on their software side and the processor is spinning its gears hard for little to no reason.

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    • Kumabear@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It has also come out that there is a bug in the instagram app from what I’ve been reading.

      This is causing a drastic increase in temperature and battery use on all iOS devices running ios17.

      This could very well just be some app code bug that is caught in a processing loop.

      It also explains why some people are seeing this and others are not, as not everyone is sitting on instagram while their phone is on charge.

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  • Ankkuli@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Please take that common sense elsewhere. Here we don’t defend Apple since this is a general technology community. You are supposed to hate them no matter what. Only if this happens to an Android device, we try our best to understand.

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• CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s the hottest Apple iPhone yet!!

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• Shadai@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Obviously, you’re holding it wrong

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  • Norrdec@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This

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• FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Just in time for autumn! A hand warmer!

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  • flames5123@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    www.heatmyhands.com

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• Hector_McG@programming.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Some context:

  www.antiscald.com/index.php?route=information/inf…

  At 116F you would require firm, continuous contact for more than 20 minutes to produce a 2nd degree burn, and over 45 minutes to produce a 3rd degree burn.

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  • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So one semi long YouTube video is all it would take to get a burn? And you’d not even need a full length movie to need a trip to the hospital?

    I get that these aren’t “instant” burns, but this is still a device people regularly hold for hours a day. And if you don’t realize it’s heating up, you’re likely to notice only when you’re in pain.

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    • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yea I think that when something is hot enough to cause burns, even when it takes minutes, I think it’s uncomfortable enough for people to let go way WAY before anything bad happens. If you don’t then you probably need medication for whatever condition ails you

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    • AdamantRatPuncher@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Or a game with some relatively large 3d model and textures. I guess that, if the average play time is about 45 minutes, then…not good at all. But who’d hold a triple digit temperature thing in his hands?

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    • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      He skipped 1st degree burns. Those would probably take 10 minutes or less.

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    • ram@bookwormstory.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Realistically speaking, since this is in fast charging only, and most people don’t let their phone battery drain to 0, I think it’s unlikely that 3rd degree burns will be an issue within reason. The iPhone 15’s reported to take about 30 minutes to charge from 0 to 50%, so if I assume the other 50% also takes 30 minutes, then really, someone won’t be hitting 45 minutes unless they’re charging from below 25% to full.^[I know charging isn’t actually linear progression, but I don’t really wanna do the math.]

      That said, 3rd degree burns may be an issue once you slip a case on it that insulates the phone, making it yet hotter, and 2nd degree burns will be more of an issue too. I’d be interested in seeing what the peak temp is during fast charging with a case on, especially one of the thicker cases. If it internally gets to more than 140 degrees Fahrenheit, there’s absolutely risk that it could explode, and even if it’s not doing it externally, internally it may be nearing those temps.

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  • sverit@feddit.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What about 1st degree burns? Would these be ok?

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• Wilibus@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  But is has ~T~i~T~a~N~i~U~m~

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• RubberDucky@programming.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  So? My 250€ Motorola also has this feature, they are slacking behind

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  • Etterra@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How long do you figure it’ll take them to make a phone that triggers nuclear fusion? Asking for a friend.

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• mvirts@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Oh no 116f, like seriously guys this will melt the Popsicle in my pocket

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  • Hunter2@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s the treshold for you to get a burn. No, it’s not instantaneous, but it certainly denotes that it shouldn’t get there at all.

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    • Kumabear@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      After several hours of unventilated and insulated continuous unmoving and firm contact… definitely at risk of first degree burns here.

      This is just to get clicks.

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  • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Apple apologists amaze me. This isn’t a fucking cpu inside a shell, it’s the outside of a handheld device.

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    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      User: “Hey guys my phone gave me a burn, is that normal?”

      Apple fanboy: “Depends, what phone is it?”

      User: “It’s an iPhone”

      Apple fanboy: “Oh in that case it’s fine, don’t worry about it”

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• danielfgom@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This is a massive problem. It’s not ok for a device which millions of people use to get so hot. This could cause a fire given the right conditions.

  I hope this gets reported on the mainstream news so people realise Apple isn’t so great after all.

  This is by far not the first time they’ve had hardware issues with their products. I think hardware is their Achilles heel.

  Not that I feel sorry for them considering how much they fleece customers on the prices for the devices, repairs, accessories, the amount of times they tell you to get a whole new Mac when all it needs is 1 part etc.

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  • quaddo@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This could cause a fire given the right conditions.

    Something tells me it could also cause a fire given the wrong conditions.

    (sorry yeah I’ll see myself out)

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    • danielfgom@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Good one 🤣

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  • ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Apples hardware is one of their strengths. By far the best in class in mosts categories they compete in.

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    • danielfgom@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You might want to ask Lou Rossman about that, he would beg to differ.

      I remember well when I was an apple fan that the unwritten rule was “never buy gen 1 of apple devices because they will have issues. Always wait for gen 2”

      The issues with their laptops, especially the main board, is legendary. Then there’s bendgate, antennagate, the cracking of the cases of the white macbooks (which I had) etc

      Not a stellar record. Whereas typically we don’t see these issues on PC’s and Android phones. The only big one was the exploding Samsung Note 7, but Samsung recalled them all and cancelled the phone. Unlike Apple who said “you’re holding it wrong” when their antenna design was the real problem.

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• WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Thats nothing.? Sneakily using fahrrneit to make it sound lime a big deal. I hate Apple as much as the next guy but this is exploitative journalism

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  • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What? 116 degrees is pretty dang hot.

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    • WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Its insides getting that hot doesn’t matter hell it is more than normal for a phone under heavy usage(gaming and stuff)

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  • Weslee@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Apple themselves say that a phone at consistently higher than 35C will suffer from battery capacity damage

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  • Railcar8095@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There are at least two countries in the world that use Fahrenheit in a regular basis. US is one of them.

    I’ll rather they use Celsius, but still it’s weird to think this is only to make “exploitative journalism”.

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• pavnilschanda@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This reminds me of the Samsung Phone incident… not as bad as that but it’s just something that popped up in my mind.

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• Destraight@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What a shitty cellphone. That’s why I use Motorola phones. They’re better than apple, and don’t overheat

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  • Gamey@feddit.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I had one of those smartphones ages ago and it was awful, one of the updates made it lag so terrible they somewhat fixed that a little in the next few updates! I bet that was intentional to get me to buy a new phone, not a iPhone fan ether tho.

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  • max@feddit.nl ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Have they fixed their update policy at long last? Back when I had an X Style it took literally over a year to get the newest version of their nearly stock skin of Android.

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• WindowsEnjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Are Apple fanboys not happy with their magic boxes called “smartphones” that just works? xD

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• Boggy@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If it’s not uncomfortable to hold or triggers the built in heat warning then you are fine. This isn’t a gameboy in the Kuwait sun.

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  • Weslee@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Temps over 35C can cause damage to batteries capacity.

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    • eumesmo@lemmings.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      My batteries, who are located in a geographic region with common room temperatures above 35ºC:

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• Etterra@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Sounds like a really expensive way to keep your coffee warm.

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• moitoi@feddit.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Apple is leveling up at each new phone. iPhone are average with a premium price.

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• Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m sure this will likely get addressed shortly with a software update. Curious to see if they throttle the CPU / slow charging a bit.

  IMHO, this is always the risk you run with day one hardware and software. Early adopters can get burned. In this case both figuratively and literally.

  That said, I’ve been hitting some 15 pros pretty hard and I haven’t noticed any heat issues.

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  • sverit@feddit.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But honestly, how does something basic like this pass qc?

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    • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      As someone in product development, I can attest to some stuff just not showing up until you throw millions of end users at something. You can try your damnedest to simulate real world usage and have all sorts of automated test, but the real world and real users alway find something. You just hope the something is small and patchable.

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