“If GrapheneOS devices can’t be sold in a region due to their regulations, so be it.”
Wonder if Motorola feels the same way.
GrapheneOS refuses to comply with new age verification laws for operating systems — group says it will never require personal information
Submitted 6 hours ago by throws_lemy@reddthat.com to technology@lemmy.world
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voluble@lemmy.ca 5 hours ago
Flipper@feddit.org 4 hours ago
They can just sell their normal phone. As long as the user is able to run the installer it doesn’t really matter.
Evotech@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
That’s probably not a viable economic decision though
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Imagine if California then declared a ban on the sale of GrapheneOS compatible phones.
would be fun to see.
bonn2@lemmy.zip 6 hours ago
I was wondering when I would see this headline. I wonder if any other big names do similar
kabe@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
I also wonder whether or not grapheneos, or open source Linux OSs in general, will face any repercussions for failing to comply to these regulations due to the relatively low user count.
Lumisal@lemmy.world 16 minutes ago
Sure. Let them be sued on profits made 😂
wewbull@feddit.uk 5 hours ago
Hate to say it but systemd, the init system of most Linux distros, already has PRs with maintainer backing to implement DoB recording.
Some people can’t kneel fast enough.
sphericalcube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
I imagine people behind this law are pretty interested in this small but powerful user base. I would just boldly assume that a lot of people responsible for independent software and privacy advocates are using Linux etc. So its a interesting user base for sure. But regulating open source software luckily is pretty much impossible and they wont give up their(our) privacy without a fight. Also, we will see how much the user base will grow when these regulations get tighter.
woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
They can simply say on their download pages that residents of Brazil and California are not allowed to use their OS.
TheLastOfHisName@piefed.social 3 hours ago
Linux Distros (so far) Refusing Age Verification
- Ageless Linux - https://agelesslinux.org/index.html
- Omarchy Linux - https://omarchy.org
- Adenix GNU/Linux - https://www.adenixgnulinux.org
- Artix Linux - https://artixlinux.org
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 5 hours ago
Genuine question:
is Graphene a “big name”? They talk a big game and are probably one of the biggest alternative phone OSes but all results I can find are putting them at 250k users and less than 2% of the Android market share.
But, more importantly: Do they at all care about US government contracts? Red Had have RHEL. ubuntu have whatever they call their premium OS for enterprise users. Google and Apple are obvious.
bonn2@lemmy.zip 1 hour ago
Frankly I think they are the largest os vendor that is going to take a principled stance on this.
XLE@piefed.social 3 hours ago
GrapheneOS has a deal with a hardware manufacturer, Motorola. I’d consider this refusal to be a big deal on those grounds alone
Luci@lemmy.ca 5 hours ago
Big enough for a headline, not big enough to make a difference.
richardwallass@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
Good boys !
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 3 hours ago
It’s about time I flash that onto my pixel 6 pro.
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 5 hours ago
Now if only GrapheneOS was easy to install on cheap Android devices.
just2look@lemmy.zip 5 hours ago
They have reached a deal with Motorola, so hopefully there will be more options soon. You can get we used pixels pretty cheap though, and the installation process is very easy.
CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
I was wondering how this stance will impact that deal. A large company like Motorola would typically seek to comply with laws such as these
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 5 hours ago
Pixel is the brand name from DoubleClick. I've got no interest. Plus, it's a pain to put them on Tracfone, so I've got net-negative interest.
kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
Grapheneos is surprisingly the most easy OS to install… The issue is most phone manufacturer’s dont meet Grapheneos its standards.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
I agree, but isn’t that just the same way said differently?
it’s not hard to install if you have a phone that follows stringent standards, that only 30% of manufacturers follow…
CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 hours ago
Cheap android devices don’t have the proper security hardware. Hopefully the Motorola phone is cheaper than a pixel though. Used pixels are also pretty cheap, all things considered.
Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
Correction, the oldest supported Pixels that will likely lose support soon are pretty cheap. Everything else was still around $400 when I checked last month.
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 5 hours ago
I'm not interested in using anything with DoubleClick's hooks in it. I'm happy with my $30 Tracfone for most of the features it offers.
Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
And if all banking apps were compatible with it…
hesh@quokk.au 2 hours ago
Banking apps are generally compatible with GrapheneOS. Some of them just require Google Play Services, which Graphene alone gives you the option to turn on or off at will, or to install only on select user profiles.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
don’t use a banking app if you enjoy your privacy.
there isn’t a single banking app that isn’t tracking you.
CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 hours ago
Banking apps work for me with exploit compatibility mode enabled.
Ulrich@feddit.org 4 hours ago
…it is?
JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
As it should be.
HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
I worry this will squander their new deal with Motorola.
Then again, what’s the point in a world class privacy OS if it complies with compromising mass surveillance laws?
yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca 1 hour ago
I mean, they must comply or face fines, whereas users can modify things however they please. I am ready to leave google, discord and twitter, so for users like me who won’t be on platforms that require age verification, I’d have no qualms about modding my OS to remove/disable age verification.
Suavevillain@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Good. Put that energy into a moderate parental control education fund or something. The ID gating the net is only for control.