I’ll believe it when I see it
Why? Why even wanna see it? Just walk away, go to Linux, and find that suddenly you own your computer again
'I'll believe it when I see it': Windows 11 users are cynical about Microsoft's promises to fix the OS and stop pushing AI
Submitted 4 hours ago by throws_lemy@reddthat.com to technology@lemmy.world
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phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 minutes ago
deacon@lemmy.world 8 minutes ago
But here is the thing: There were already a million reasons to avoid Microsoft even before their lost weekend with this AI fever dream.
Remove the Microslop and those older reasons remain.
starblursd@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
Too little to late… I already left and fell in love with Linux
kescusay@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Welcome! Isn’t it a breath of fresh air to use an OS that isn’t trying to turn your computer into an advertising and upselling platform? It has its issues, but it’s a huge relief to escape the constant inundation from Microsoft.
(Obligatory: I use arch BTW)
Jhex@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Welcome to the club buddy! we’ve been waiting for you!
digitalFatteh@lemmy.ca 3 hours ago
Same here. Got fed up after every damned update to subscribe to this, want to setup backup to cloud, setup office. Switched to Linux and now not a single subscription popup in sight. It’s been bliss. Spent the weekend with the misses sorting out 30 years of photos and getting to know exit editor 🫣
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 3 hours ago
Exactly
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 1 hour ago
Microsoft’s promises to fix the OS and stop pushing AI
Never heard such a promise.
iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 39 minutes ago
In this update this month they prioritized the app store over local results. I tried to open powershell (work computer), and it offered me the app store version BEFORE my installed powershell. Yeah I’m sure they’re going to change course.
Greg@lemmy.ca 4 hours ago
Windows 11 felt like a downgrade before all the AI bs. Microsoft values me more as an advertising opportunity than a customer.
Jesus_666@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
I had avoided it until late last year when I had to reinstall a friend’s borked install after it had somehow managed to shred its registry hives.
Holy shit. That installer is an embarrassment. First it couldn’t get past the first reboot until I found out that you can set it to use what looks like the Windows 7 installer for the first steps. Then I had to deal with a dog slow installer that needs half a dozen reboots for some unfathomable reason. Then an endless cavalcade of sales prompts, including one for an Office subscription where they try to hide the price from you. All to end in, well, Windows 11.
I simultaneously installed Fedora Kinoite on his old laptop. I don’t think the Fedora installer is one of the better ones but it was so much easier and faster to set up the machine that it was almost comical.
Seeing both systems side by side really drives home just how clunky Windows is. And how Microsoft installers are barely better than they were 15 years ago, but now they have ads.
Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Windows 11 feels like Microsoft is actively punishing me for being foolish enough to keep using their products. Adding some janky AI bullshit machine to this garbage fire feels now they’re just taking the piss.
Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca 1 hour ago
No joke, one of the last straws for me was their stupid copilot popup on the active cell in Excel. Hated that garbage. Also their refusal to let me just use the file explorer to save my files. Maybe I’m an old fogey, but every new addition felt like a step backwards. I have now switched to Linux and am having a decent time (not for everyone tho and I totes understand if others don’t want to make the switch).
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 3 hours ago
I read “reevaluating its AI strategy on Windows 11” as “finding a more subtle way to shove that botulistic sausage down their customers throats”.
oh_@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Yeah, exactly, they never said they are removing any AI. Just will be slapping some paint on it.
krashmo@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
botulistic sausage
Epic new band name
U7826391786239@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
i’ll never see it because i’m never using windows again
innermachine@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
I stopped seeing all the copilot ai crap after I removed it from my windows 11 computer. Not sure what versions of windows people on here are running but I’m glad it’s not on my PC! It is unfortunate that windows needs to be debloated if you buy home version instead of enterprise (a mistake I made), if they keep making users need to tweak stuff they’ll be better off on linux soon! Windows was supposed to be the idiot proof is for office drones but it appears those days are gone.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 hours ago
Not sure what versions of windows people on here are running
No version
neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 hours ago
Same!
I’m currently building my business to be platform agnostic.
For the most part I’m using open source for everything that can be.
Bow that I think of it, the only non-open source stuff I use are zoom, outlook (need it for shared inboxes), and my payment processor. I doubt I will move on from these platforms as their value is really good. Zoom is the only one I may transition away from from as costs grow.
reksas@sopuli.xyz 1 hour ago
even being cynical towards microsoft at this point looks to me like sheepish adoration. If you have any hope that microsoft might start doing better you are naive.
goatinspace@feddit.org 1 hour ago
NoxAstrum@lemmy.ca 4 hours ago
Great news, you don’t have to bother, just switch to Linux. I did, and I don’t have to spend a single moment worrying about what Microsoft is doing to their garbage.
Telorand@reddthat.com 3 hours ago
Sorry, I can’t hear you over all the Linux on my computers since last year. Did you say “promises to shit on the OS and super push AI?” Yeah, sounds about right for Microslop.
theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Needs more than just backing off AI to get me to upgrade my backup windows 10 installations (only use them for things Linux can’t do).
Control panel/settings needs to be fixed and they can fuck right off with one drive. Every file should be on my computer unless I specifically save to a clearly designated cloud drive. No cloud functions should ever touch files I have saved (by default) to my computer. Also unfuck the start and explorer menus and give me back my pinball.
Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca 25 minutes ago
OneDrive also deletes files off of your computer if you don’t use them often enough. When I was switching over to Linux I had to download a bunch of stuff that was made on that PC! Ridiculous.
Like, you can turn that off, but I don’t think I ever signed up for that specifically.
Brkdncr@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
You know you can decline the onedrive folder sync during initial setup right?
theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 52 minutes ago
I do not because I have never installed windows 11 on a computer personally. I tediously forced all my windows 10 installs to local accounts and forcibly clawed back my local folders on my old laptop after one drive stole everything. I’m also still super skeptical about how “easy” it is to avoid one drive “integration” on windows 11.
Poppa_Mo@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
You guys should see what phone link is up to. Even if you didn’t configure it.
agentTeiko@piefed.social 3 hours ago
I don’t think windows is an OS anymore. It just the personification of the checkout questions they ask you at GameStop or BestBuy about the extended warranty or magazine subscription.
MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip 3 hours ago
Microslop could do absolutely anything to Windows and it wouldn’t make me go back because it would be Microslop doing it.
Sinirlan@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Like 5 years too late for me, I ditched Winslop bit over 4 years ago, never looked back. Yes, it’s not perfect, not everything works out of the box and I have to search for solutions every now and then but it’s My Computer again.
FireWire400@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
The damage has been done. And honestly, Windows 11 changed my life despite its shortcomings.
So thank you, Microslop, for making me embrace Linux.
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 3 hours ago
Their stock tanking like 12% must have been a wake up call
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 3 hours ago
They made this promise? Lol ok.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
*skeptical
funkajunk@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
While I understand your point, in this case I think “cynical” is applicable.
Anything to do with mega corporations (like M$), I assume bad faith and selfish motives from the start.
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 hours ago
They have an (unintentional) strategy of alternating good and bad releases. So *if windows 12 comes out and it is somewhat sensible, it will be amazing when compared to win 11, and people will not wait to get off 11 onto 12.
Whereas if 12/came out right after 10, it would be compared to 10 and people would not like it as much.
Broken@lemmy.ml 1 hour ago
If you look at the foundations of the OS the pattern becomes clear. They release a concept of an OS, but its half baked and not implemented well. So they fix it and rebrand it, and that’s the “good” version. 95 became 98 ME became XP Vista became 7 10 became 10 - they broke pattern by wanting to stay in a perpetual 10 state and keep updating it (which is why it was around 10 years). 10 was not good when it launched and took years to fix it, essentially becoming its own replacement.
Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 3 hours ago
I wouldn’t call it good and bad. I’d say every other release they have a horrific one to scare people and then they have a bad but better than the other one release.
The data harvesting is just getting to be too much though. That’s in every release.
CaptainCancel@sh.itjust.works 3 minutes ago
Pissed that I had to reinstall Windows because Linux’s usability with my Valve Index isn’t quite where it needs to be. Was quite happy on Fedora before I attempted to run VR stuff again.