But here is the thing: There were already a million reasons to avoid Microsoft even before their lost weekend with this AI fever dream.
Remove the Microslop and those older reasons remain.
'I'll believe it when I see it': Windows 11 users are cynical about Microsoft's promises to fix the OS and stop pushing AI
Submitted 2 weeks ago by throws_lemy@reddthat.com to technology@lemmy.world
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deacon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Needs more than just backing off AI to get me to upgrade my backup windows 10 installations (only use them for things Linux can’t do).
Control panel/settings needs to be fixed and they can fuck right off with one drive. Every file should be on my computer unless I specifically save to a clearly designated cloud drive. No cloud functions should ever touch files I have saved (by default) to my computer. Also unfuck the start and explorer menus and give me back my pinball.
Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
OneDrive also deletes files off of your computer if you don’t use them often enough. When I was switching over to Linux I had to download a bunch of stuff that was made on that PC! Ridiculous.
Like, you can turn that off, but I don’t think I ever signed up for that specifically.
theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah, I just don’t trust it so I don’t use it. I have one drive storage and use it, but only on my phone and via the website. I don’t let it touch my windows install because it’s just waaaaaay too aggressive.
Notamoosen@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I’d love to know who deemed adding more clicks to get to features an improvement.
theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The improvement is you’re less likely to use your computer the way you want to instead of the way Micro$lop wants to tell investors you could use it in a way beneficial to them.
Brkdncr@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You know you can decline the onedrive folder sync during initial setup right?
theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I do not because I have never installed windows 11 on a computer personally. I tediously forced all my windows 10 installs to local accounts and forcibly clawed back my local folders on my old laptop after one drive stole everything. I’m also still super skeptical about how “easy” it is to avoid one drive “integration” on windows 11.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
*skeptical
funkajunk@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
While I understand your point, in this case I think “cynical” is applicable.
Anything to do with mega corporations (like M$), I assume bad faith and selfish motives from the start.
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
They have an (unintentional) strategy of alternating good and bad releases. So *if windows 12 comes out and it is somewhat sensible, it will be amazing when compared to win 11, and people will not wait to get off 11 onto 12.
Whereas if 12/came out right after 10, it would be compared to 10 and people would not like it as much.
Broken@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
If you look at the foundations of the OS the pattern becomes clear. They release a concept of an OS, but its half baked and not implemented well. So they fix it and rebrand it, and that’s the “good” version. 95 became 98 ME became XP Vista became 7 10 became 10 - they broke pattern by wanting to stay in a perpetual 10 state and keep updating it (which is why it was around 10 years). 10 was not good when it launched and took years to fix it, essentially becoming its own replacement.
Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I wouldn’t call it good and bad. I’d say every other release they have a horrific one to scare people and then they have a bad but better than the other one release.
The data harvesting is just getting to be too much though. That’s in every release.
klpy6328964@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Messed with Ubuntu maybe a decade ago was the last Linux experience I had until recently replacing win11 with Fedora KDE on my main machine. Honestly feels like a breath of fresh air. Nothing is asking me to sync it to one drive. Everything is snappy and customizable. It’s clean and just feels pleasant to use. Not ever going back.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
That was my reaction when I read about them pulling copilot and such. I think it’s probably the reaction of every software nerd.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yes. In Windows 12.
uienia@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s going to be massively worse in Windows 12. There is no going back for them.
RalfWausE@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
The last REALLY good Windows was Windows 2000… and i am going to defend this hill until you take this yellowed out PS/2 keyboard out of my cold dead hands.
DacoTaco@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Curious now, why 2000 ?
Why not xp ( after sp2 ) or windows 7?JamBandFan1996@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I’m a big 2000 fan but yeah xp was mostly just 2000 with a more consumer oriented gui. 7 might actually be better, can’t think of any specific downgrades from 2000 to 7
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
They made this promise? Lol ok.
Poppa_Mo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You guys should see what phone link is up to. Even if you didn’t configure it.
jjlinux@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
planning on cutting back some AI features where they don’t make sense.
Lol, that’s basically saying they’ll remove AI from the entire system, 🤣
CaptainCancel@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Pissed that I had to reinstall Windows because Linux’s usability with my Valve Index isn’t quite where it needs to be. Was quite happy on Fedora before I attempted to run VR stuff again.
JustARegularNerd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I also wonder how much of this was spurred by Linux even beginning to come to the mainstream mind and how simple most distros are to just install and run (Bazzite, CachyOS, Linux Mint).
You’ve always had Linux go around tech circles, forums, enthusiasts, etc. but big YouTube channels out of that circle are talking about it and hardware manufacturers are distributing it in place of Windows in the case of the Steam Deck, and it’s just building more and more momentum.
I think it’s easy to take for granted how (relatively) mainstream Linux is getting, but if you think today how many people talk about *BSD, that was Linux not even 10 years ago.