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• RamRabbit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I have a strong feeling they won’t be removing the spying, AI everywhere, ads, and bloatware.

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  • t00l@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Tech has long been in the era of surveillance capitalism. Windows, Chrome, MacOS/iOS(iAds, NewsApp, notarization security, mediaanalysisd, and the most locked down hardware on earth), Android, the majority of all of the apps in the various walled gardens are all out to extract, analyze and monetize every aspect of our digital lives… which is a lot of our waking hours.

    As users of these services we all need to ask ourselves if the companies who now make up the lion-share our retirement savings, who collectively dictate how we view and interact with the world really have anything but their own best interests in mind.

    Most people would say no but “what am I supposed to do?”. People really need to understand that power like the kind that these mega-corps have is only taken and basically never surrendered willingly. Vote with your dollars now and for as long as it takes to see the fall of these vile companies.

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  • WanderingThoughts@europe.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Seems they’re figuring out you can’t sell ads and AI on your platform if nobody wants to use your platform.

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  • XLE@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If Microsoft walks back their use of AI in the development of Windows, that would be a major admission of failure on their part.

    But it will probably help prolong their market dominance a great deal. Because up until they started destroying their own OS, all they needed to do to remain on the top was literally nothing.

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  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Plus getting closer with the govt contracts to allow private data to be surveillance.

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  • Chaser@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    As positives for them ;)

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• Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Okay, that's easy: remove all the LLM slop. That'll start fixing it. Then get the ads out of the UI. Get rid of the MS account requirement, and make all updates optional. For a stretch goal, go back to making an OS that only does what the user tells it to, and doesn't have any function to phone home without direct user input.

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  • Encephalotrocity@feddit.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Too funny. They’d need to go back to Win95 for all that.

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    • jjlinux@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      XP would be enough.

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    • Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      98SE would mostly work.

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  • Strider@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Fix the task bar!!!

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    • Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That's the secondary goal. I feel like there's enough 3rd party tools to fix that, that I want the repairs done in the backend and trust power users and user-devs to handle the UX.

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• supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I wake up to a bright flashing of my phone.

  It is 3am, damn I forget to turn my phone to silent.

  I can’t resist the urge, who would text me this time of night??!?

  “hey I have been thinking about you, you know I think we could work it out together. I wll spend 2026 improving myself I promise. Please baby I miss you”

  “go to bed Microslop, you are drunk and you are the one that wanted the divorce” I text back frustratedly and turn my phone to silent.

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  • XLE@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I want a divorce and I’m keeping Clippy

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  • FreddiesLantern@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    King!

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• 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Rebuild trust?

  1. remove all telemetry
  2. remove all ai bullshit
  3. remove ads
  4. open source the whole code

  Then, and only then, we might start to trust again.

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  • CaptPretentious@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    To add to this list

    5. Remove WebView apps. Eat our own dogfood and use MAUI.
    6. Go back to the classic Start Menu. Use API to make the whole UI available for customizations
    7. Get rid of the whole shitty “Settings” menu and go back to the Control Panel.
    8. Drop backwards compatibility for a bunch of crap. Stop pulling the 1980s forward, let that shit die.
    9. Address real modern issues with compatibility and performance with current CPUs
    10. Undo all the vibe coding.
    11. Focus on stability and performance, not trying to be “An experience”. Windows runs apps, make it do that the best it can.
    12. For the love of everything holy, take a risk and modernize the OS. This goes back to 8. But as someone who makes Windows Server golden images for multiple platforms, FUCKING CHRIST. Having to use the Autounattend to even get anything started, and that’s often (Even in Azure) just a minimal thing to get some client to do the real work, should tell you there’s a problem. The Autounattend is poorly documented. I learned more from just building a basic VM on different providers and seeing what they figured out. I could write a god damn novel on the shortcomings of the initial installation and customization of Windows, but it’s especially embarrassing for their Server platform

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    • NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      15. Renew support for Windows 10.

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    • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I thought of some of those, but decided to add my point (4) and allow the community to do it right.

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  • kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Please dont do step 4. Devs will get heart attacks left and right if they see that piece of shit code.

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    • CaptPretentious@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No, it’s a long-known fact that the Windows code has been shit for decades. That’s been known since at least XP days I think. Pretty sure I first heard about it on TechTV

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    • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Hahahahahaha!! No, no, you’ve got a good point

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  • nodiratime@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    GLP2 at least and reproducible builds or bust.

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  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They can’t open source their code because then people would rather rapidly discover all the backdoors they’ve built in for various US LE and Intelligence agencies.

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• Jaysyn@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Marketing bullshit. Microsoft isn’t going to actually reverse any of the enshittification it’s inflicted on Windows.

  If you don’t have any customer mandated software that requires Windows, I’m looking at you AutoDesk, then do yourself a favor and go ahead take the week to install and learn Linux Mint.

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  • audaxdreik@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Enshittification, as always, is the word here. It’s important to point out because to disenshittify(?) the product would need to turn back the wheel, including profits. Line go down.

    With all the other lines going down, they literally cannot course correct here in any way that would matter to the consumer to rebuild trust. So much of their model is built off of force feeding users and directing their behaviors, the thing they absolutely hate.

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  • Vupware@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve been wanting to install Linux, but I don’t have a drive large enough to back up my windows installation.

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    • Blemgo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Do you really need the entire installation? Would only the user folder(s) (C:\Users) suffice?

      Alternatively, you could install Linux mint on a large enough USB stick and run it off there, if you don’t mind the longer read/write times. You’d also need to change the boot order for it too.

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    • Railcar8095@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You can install on an external USB drive. As long as it’s USB 3, there will be little performance difference vs an internal HD (SSD likely slower, but good enough for everyday work)

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• adespoton@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Rebuild trust… by integrating more mandatory and default-on server-based features?

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  • db2@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And the fixes will be vibe coded too.

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• ieGod@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They’ll never read nor act on this feedback, but here’s my list:

  • drop the AI
  • drop the ads
  • stop pushing services, namely cloud
  • stop requiring Microsoft accounts

  Honestly win10 was great when it dropped. Not sure why we needed 11.

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  • bhamlin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    To be fair, I think they knew that. Which is why they said up front that windows 10 was the last windows you’d need. And then for some reason they kept going…

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  • ndupont@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Somehow my 11 feels that way, being in EU, having it installed with the W7 license key that came with my laptop. Still, there are bugs that seem ludicrous to me, from a company like them, especially in the file explorer that cannot manage keyboard shortcuts properly when you move between tabs, or that don’t highlight the proper file or folder you’ve selected. Same thing with how buggy Excel has become, especially with rendering when you switch between multiple files. Selections are offset from were the mouse is, that’s crazy. Best solution I’ve found is a quick CTRL-N, CTRL-W that seems to reset it. Anyway, I’ve been using windows since 2.0 on MS DOS 3.30 or 5.0, Excel for about 20 years most of my life at work, and things are really not improving.

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• pizza_the_hutt@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I already moved to Linux, and I’m not going back.

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  • morto@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Migrating users might be a few, but they rarely go back. A few users monthly eventually become a lot!

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• Binturong@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  MS is about to learn how hard it is to build trust in commercial markets, and why it’s a terrible decision to set that on fire for a short term profit. Honestly, it’s hard to find a better example of a company that had a more comfortable and ideal position in their market, that just decided to disrupt itself without any pressure or prompting. You wanna gamble, you gotta be ready to lose.

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  • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Meanwhile, Valve…

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    • Binturong@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So true

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• vogi@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Man… :( please don’t do that. That’s super boring. They were doing so great pushing people to use Linux.

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• RazTheCat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It should not be hard to browse local files on a computer. 

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  • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why are you using local files when you have a cloud???!

    -Microsoft

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• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Way too fucking late for that.

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• SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Please don’t. It’s actually quite funny if you don’t have to use windows at all.

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• solrize@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Microslop is going to spend 2026 improving Windows 11.

  Why bother? Just upgrade everyone to Windows 10.

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  • shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Upgrade everybody to Linux Mint. Problem solved.

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    • Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Or a distro using Wayland for higher end PCs.

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• lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You want trust? Fuck off with Slopilot and start supporting windows 10 again.

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  • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Not like that. More like building trust by like telling you “trust us bruh”. See how we did that? See how by calling you bruh we sound more down to earth and trustworthy?

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• Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Been a linux user for a solid 9 years now. Never going back!

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• some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It seems like we’re at a real turning point for Linux adoption. I’m an Apple nerd, but I love seeing people switch to Linux and write about what a (mostly) positive experience it is. Cheers to my fellow nerds getting off the screaming pile of garbage MS if forcing on people who just want a computer that works.

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  • HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    After a win11 forced updated made my nontech 75 years old father laptop nearly useless he ask me if linux could give it a second life i’ve been a user for at least 15 years so i was more than happy to install it

    His laptop is like a new one sure he had to learn a little after so long on windows but it’s mostly really user friendly now except for some minor problem everything work out of the box (wifi,bluetooth,printer etc)

    I doubt microslop could ever get most new linux user back once they get the hang of it

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• shithawk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Good luck with that - you would need to scrap the entire operating system.

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  • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And a lot of leadership

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  • lepinkainen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There was a theory that Microsoft could just release a Linux distro with a first party windows skin on it

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    • shithawk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If planned obsolescence wasn’t a concern this would be a decent way to improve - use the Linux kernel, ported or recreated interface and a compatibility layer for games or whatever it is that keeps people on Windows.

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  • Scrollone@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They can’t scrap their whole operating system: the only thing keeping people on Windows is its backwards compatibility.

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• frog_brawler@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  By the time they fix it, it’ll be Windows 12. We see the pattern over and over again, but this time they tried strong arming people onto 11. Those people aren’t going back.

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  • stewarpt@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Windows 11.1

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    • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Reminds me of Vault 111, where the overseer is the friendly dictator that knows best and should never be questioned. Seems like a fitting version number

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• MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Image “Fuck this shit…”

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  • FreddiesLantern@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Forever. If by some miracle W12 rolls out and undoes all of this shit I’m still not going back.

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• renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Translation: They going to try to “marketing” their way out of this hole.

  Nothing about Windows or Microsoft will fundamentally change.

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  • CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Don‘t forget the bribes! They‘ll bribe their way back into government ministries that ditched them in no time because Macroslop is just reliable like that.

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• cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Maybe if they keep making it worse and worse it will kind of circle back to good.

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  • FreddiesLantern@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “I see you’re trying to edit this config file and respect your choice to do so. May I take this task over from you? No wait, I’ll make a test run and save it elsewhere for review. No wait that’s too forward of me, I’ll delete it instead.

    Come to think of it I’ll delete myself as well, goodbye”

    clanker.exe terminated

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• anon_8675309@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Bullshit.

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• MuskyMelon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Hey Satya, just give us Win10 back and fuck off, you bald fraud.

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• TerdFerguson@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  … but it was already too late. They alienated their users completely and Linux is soooo nice.

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• gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  lol

  Lmao, even

  Also, hi from bazzite, which runs the vast majority of games I’m interested in flawless, and usually with even better performance than W10 (let alone W11)

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• FreddiesLantern@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Next week:

  “We’ve listened to your feedback and have made the hard decision. Copilot will henceforth bear the likeness of Clippy”

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• MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Too late for me. But thanks for telling me my computer wasn’t good enough for Win 11 and forcing me to install Linux. It was a breeze, and computing is fun again.

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• Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Didn’t they have to pull a botched update like last week?

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• BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Image

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