Beware: Government Using Image Manipulation for Propaganda

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• Hayduke@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s ok, I never trusted any audio/video/images from this administration in the first place.

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  • tomiant@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You sure? That AI video Trump made where he shat on the American public seemed real enough…

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    • roofuskit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That was real video but they cut out the diaper he was emptying.

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    • hector@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Or the one with him and some soccer asshole freestyling a soccer ball in the oval office. Guy cannot walk down a ramp and he’s shitposting hackysack kicking a soccer ball.

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• RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m getting a lot of miles put of Orwell these days.

  This process of continuous alteration was applied not only to newspapers, but to books, periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound-tracks, cartoons, photographs – to every kind of literature or documentation which might conceivably hold any political or ideological significance. Day by day and almost minute by minute the past was brought up to date. In this way every prediction made by the Party could be shown by documentary evidence to have been correct, nor was any item of news, or any expression of opinion, which conflicted with the needs of the moment, ever allowed to remain on record. All history was a palimpsest, scraped clean and reinscribed exactly as often as was necessary.

  • 1984

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  • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Day by day and almost minute by minute the past was brought up to date

    The record was corrected?

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    • lost_faith@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes, it was corrected to what the party wanted it to have been. It really is a good book, you should give it at least a once over.

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    • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You should actually read the book, or at least that part of the chapter.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Stop what you’re doing and read 1984 now.

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• the_q@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is the main reason AI is being pushed into everything.

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  • gens@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Main reason is money. They found a hype inducing thing and circle hyped it. Nvidia especially.

    This is just a side-effect. A nasty one.

    Disclaimer: “AI” is not completely useless.

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  • criscodisco@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And for the surveillance and defense contracts.

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      palinitir used to “look for targets, biased” to monitor or kill.

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  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    its useful for propaganda, because googles video AI is very hard to tell unless you have been exposed to ai videos for a while. and Right wingers are less likely to tell apart propaganda AI and real news.

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• epicthundercat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  My partner was fake edited in one of the DHS videos in Portland! He was wearing a moth man costume and dancing to EDM at the ICE center and they put fake smoke and filters over it to make him look scary lol… Absolutely ridiculous. Image

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  • epicthundercat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    FYI, HE WAS SURROUNDED BY OTHER COSTUMES DANCING! This was peak frog erra.

    Here is what he ACTUALLY looked like lolImage

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    • Zoomboingding@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Omg you have to warn us before posting scary leftists

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  • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “The Radical Left^tm^ are allied with the “Mothman,” known infamously for being behind the 9/11 attacks on the twin towers and the Oklahoma City bombing, among others. Make America Safe Again. Join ICE today, or perish tomorrow!”

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    • jupiter_jazz@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Would you like to know more?

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    • MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I hear it’s allied with Totoro and Popeye, the child rapists.

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  • MrShankles@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I would frame that as a token of honor! How weak of them lol

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  • acockworkorange@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Moth men, moth men, moth moth moth, men men!

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    • MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      meth, mon

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• clav64@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What’s new?

  Image

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  • MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Non-AI (but not primary) source: en.wikipedia.org/…/Censorship_of_images_in_the_So…

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  • mycodesucks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Came here specifically for this. Not disappointed.

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• yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The US government and everyone that stands behind it, they want to make those who fight against ICE look like dangerous creatures that roam the Earth and must be stopped. They want to look like they’re in total control, by making these fighters look desperate for their lives when they are arrested, by celebrating whenever one of them is killed. But most importantly, they want us to fight each other, so that we forget who is our true opponent on what is basically a war on our rights as human beings.

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• brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “It’s just a meme,” has the same energy as a confronted schoolyard bully, and apparently that’s just accepted etiquette now :/

  Ive seen the same sentiment on Lemmy. Manipulative/misleading articles or even straight up misinformation is posted, and when I bring it up, OP’s response is “I don’t care.” As long as it’s the right ideology, it’s alright; and mods didn’t disagree.

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  …We’re so screwed, aren’t we? And by “we” I mean the internet. It’s nice to think the Fediverse is a refuge from all this, but it engineered in the same structural issues commercial social media has, I think.

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  • CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    „It‘s just a meme“ was proven false when Americans voted Trump for the first time „as a meme“. Yes, I remember many of them claiming they did that ironically the first time. Of course that was a lie and they stopped pretending to be just useful idiots the second time around. They‘re simply nasty people.

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  • mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The horrible truth is even the majority of people who have the right opinion got there in the same stupid flawed ways as people who have the wrong opinion, and are deep down no better, but just accidentally appear to be so

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    • HalfSalesman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The only good people are people who are brave enough to actively test their beliefs and earnestly question their own ideology (accept that they even have one).

      Almost no one does this. People often even say they “don’t have an ideology”. Its convenient, if you have no belief system there is nothing to question.

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• SouthFresh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Since when have they been not using image manipulation for propaganda?

  Sure it’s way easier now, but it’s not like manipulating images is a new tactic.

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• brandocorp@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is the part where they do the thing they’re about to start accusing others of also doing.

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• minorkeys@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You should always assume that if a way to lie to you exists, politicians and marketing with use it to lie to you.

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• bampop@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I don’t know if this is a good thing or a bad thing. I mean, obviously it’s a bad thing in the short term. I’m sure the current administration will continue to lie in more egregious ways. For example, if there were no clear bystander videos, would the DHS be releasing doctored bodycam footage to show Alex Pretti pulling his gun and trying to shoot ICE officers? Does that sound far-fetched? It’s technically feasible. It might seem too big and blatant a lie, but that lie has already been told in words from the DHS and Trump administration. Why not embellish it further?

  And of course it’s enormously dangerous because no matter how blatant the lies are, there are many people who will accept them at face value, because they are too uneducated, or too locked into the “them and us” mentality to ever doubt the story that “their team” is selling them.

  So how could it be a good thing? Well, if the USA manages to rid itself of this cancer, the Trump administration will serve as irrefutable proof that government institutions cannot be considered intrinsically trustworthy, or relied on to act in good faith. There needs to be checks and balances like never before. That was always true, but knowing it and being able to act on it are two different things. The Trump administration’s eagerness to lie, cheat and cause suffering, even in the most clumsy and blatant ways, shines a clear light on dangers that were already there. It is an exemplary model of the abuse of power, and I hope that one day we will be in a position to take lessons from it. Maybe I’m being overoptimistic. It seems like the lessons learned from Nazi Germany were mostly the “how to do this” kind. But there is a chance to make things better here, not just better than they are now but better than they were before.

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  • purplestar@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So how could it be a good thing? Well, if the USA manages to rid itself of this cancer, the Trump administration will serve as irrefutable proof that government institutions cannot be considered intrinsically trustworthy, or relied on to act in good faith.

    This only works if the population is wanting to sustain it. Previous horrible presidencies has shown us that they will sweep it all under the rug and move on to the next bad thing.

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    • bampop@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Previous presidencies have indeed done that, but that’s why this particular situation gives me a glimmer of hope. The rot is at the point where it all needs to be ripped out. All branches of government are loaded with MAGA appointees, the supreme court is politicized and disgraced, the whole Republican party is complicit in crimes against the nation. Business as usual just isn’t an option any more. I’m not saying that things are automatically going to get better, and unless there is a major cleanout of the Democratic party, it’s doubtful that they would. Just saying that there is a chance now that didn’t exist before.

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  • D_C@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I have absolutely no doubt that if there were no external videos we would all be seeing pictures and videos of Alex Pretti brandishing, and most probably shooting a gun. No doubt whatsoever.

    I wouldn’t put it past the orange child rapist and cronies to make up a complete back story about Alex being “involved with domestic terrorists” etc etc.

    They will do absolutely anything to stay in power.

    The real question is:
    If they did AI up some pics and videos then would anyone with clout pull them up on it?
    Again, I doubt it.

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• ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So it’s GUIMP? I thought it was “GNU Image Manipulation Program.”

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  • end_stage_ligma@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “It’s pronounced JIMP” -rms probably

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• Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  We know

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• Kissaki@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They should have put the images side by side in the article instead of only linking to X (where they may even disappear).

  via xcancel:

  Before Editing	After Editing
  Image	Image

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• rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Man, are they gonna be pissed when people use this against them as well. Collectively we have more time to do stupid shit :)

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  • Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The truth is more than enough, though.

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    • rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ohh, i fully agree. but the second someone does a convincing fake of him saying stuff that would make him big mad, he’ll go off and start denouncing AI :)

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  • Kissaki@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Those seeking truth are misled into lies. Those seeking things that fit their agenda or views find lies.

    It’s a pretty asymmetric balance. No matter how much more time we have collectively, Trump and MAGA don’t care. If we lie about what they will catch on to, I imagine it would be things they’d radicalize and self-validate them more. Everything else, they’ll disregard. Like they have been doing for years with founded reporting etc.

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• NatakuNox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I automatically think anything coming from this administration is propaganda bull shit taken from the horror version of Idiocracy.

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• tomiant@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Who could have seen this coming.

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• DarkFuture@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Looks like we’re going to end up a crossover of North Korea and Russia.

  All because conservatives hate America and enough others don’t give enough of a fuck to stop conservatives from destroying America.

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• Rhoeri@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Welcome to the 20th Century.

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  • gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Aren’t we in the 21st Century?

    20th ended in the year 1999

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    • Rhoeri@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And we were using propaganda back in the 40’s.

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• LordFireCrotch@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Beware: water is wet

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• gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Wow, I don’t know how I didn’t notice this /sarcasm

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• BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  OH MY GOD THERE ARE BEARS SHITTING IN THE WOODS!

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• Widdershins@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I would expect breaking “phone gets an update pushed out like an Amber Alert” news if anyone in the administration told the truth

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• Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Did we not already know this? Really?

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• Kissaki@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Today, German public broadcasting morning show was showing a supposed video of the one recently shot dead, supposedly kicking ICE cars and cursing at them and then being wrestled to the ground, and supposedly escaping afterwards. The movement looked strange to me, which made me suspect AI.

  Can anyone confirm whether such a video is in circulation and the validity of it?

  I most certainly wouldn’t be surprised if it were AI generated.

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  • 14specks@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think that video was confirmed

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    • Kissaki@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I had written to them, and they pointed to a CNBC source, which mentioned another video from a different angle, and the family confirmed it was them in the video. So yeah, seems like it was valid.

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• MrShankles@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m godsmacked, I tell ya whhat

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