As Twitter destroys its brand by renaming itself X, Mastodon user numbers are again soaring | TechCrunch

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• o0joshua0o@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  He has so thoroughly ruined Twitter that you can’t help but wonder if that was his goal from the outset.

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  • Username02@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Narcissists like him would never seek failure intentionally.

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    • thefartographer@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You’ve obviously never played a board game with a narcissist. Flipping over the table and calling everyone, including the game they themselves purchased, cheaters is a totally expected move.

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    • balder1991@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s just like Michael from The Office. You see he isn’t doing things on purpose to sabotage everyone, but he can’t control itself, he needs the attention and the self worship.

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  • ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Elon is a narcissistic idiot, but that’s all he is. He bought the same crap his own PR team was peddling a few years ago, figured he didn’t need his PR team because he was so great (according to propaganda they spread), and went on to confidently make idiotic decisions because of course the real life Tony Stark can make no mistakes

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  • BastingChemina@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Honestly even if the executive wanted to crash Twitter on purpose I’m not sure they could have done as good as Musk.

    He’s carefully destroying the brand, the infrastructure, the finances and the credibility of Twitter.

    You can’t be too quick because then people would take about for maybe a month and move over.

    No it had to be slow and painful so everyone start to really hate it.

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• ngons@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Is this migration already called xit? Because it should…

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  • wahming@monyet.cc ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Xitting the Xitter (shit-ter)

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    • ininewcrow@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Xatter (shat-ter)

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• Tygr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s not the rebrand that’s killing Twitter. Elon is. He’s proving to himself that he cannot, in fact, run Twitter better than the prior owners.

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  • hairinmybellybutt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I wonder if previous twitter execs are feeling a bit bad to have sold him twitter to see it destroyed like that.

    I mean it certainly proves Elon is an idiot as he used fraud to manipulate the price and got played instead.

    But was it worth it to let him destroy Twitter just because he tried to defraud it?

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    • Master@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      As someone who doesnt use twitter… yes this was totally worth it!

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    • Uiopp@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I wonder how long twitter would able to run at a loss if elon didn’t take it over as a slapstick joke went wrong.

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    • Tygr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’d be bummed out but happy I have an unlimited supply of hundred dollar bills to wipe away the tears.

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  • Saneless@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah. I left with the bluetlicker shitstain bump up in every reply. The dumbest people to ever buy a device and learn English that somehow didn’t choke on rocks as a kid…

    Just had enough and had to leave

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  • mint_tamas@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    To be honest, for me it absolutely was the rebranding that made me delete the app.

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    • Tygr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If you said it was the final nail in the coffin, sure. But for that to be the only reason?? Why??

      Are you one of those “my brand truck is better than yours because … bowtie” types?

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• ominouslemon@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Cool, but the article is from July 24th

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• PeleSpirit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Here are tips for everyone to enjoy Mastodon (thoroughly explained in the sourced article at the bottom):

  1. Boost posts you like
  2. Look at user profiles on their original home server
  3. Search for content on other instances
  4. Enable the advanced web interface for Mastodon
  5. Use groups
  6. Be your own aggregator with RSS

  Source: infoworld.com/…/6-ways-to-find-better-content-on-…

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• miz_nocturnal@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Just deleted my Twitter account. Of course, the app gave nothing but errors so I had to do it on desktop, but it’s done!

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  • ramblinguy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So now you have an ex-Twitter account. Or an X account for short.

    Maybe Elon was truly 200 IQ with his naming

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  • Polar@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I deleted all of mine and move to mastodon when I heard Elon was possibly going to buy it. I’m glad I did, because who knows what he has all implemented since then.

    I am sure my account was never “deleted”, even under Jack, but at least I know I gave the best chance for my data to be deleted.

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• moitoi@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Twitter under Elon look similar to the UK under Brexit.

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  • ultratiem@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So smooth sailing right? Right??

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• Desistance@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Lemmy would be soaring too if it weren’t for terrible database code allowing for easy ddos.

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  • Vlyn@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Try using a smaller instance. I recently switched from lemmy.world to lemmy.zip and it’s lightning fast. While you still get all the content from lemmy.world :)

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    • tlit341569@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      switched from LW to discuss online

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  • Speculater@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Hopefully they can fix that issue and the communist communities stop having hissy fits.

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  • Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    At least it’s open for collaboration so people who can or help contribute to fix bugs for them are able to do so. That’s the beauty of open source, anyone can help out.

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• Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I wanted to use mastodon, but I haven’t even used twitter in years, so then I realized I just don’t social media that way anymore (or much at all for that matter).

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  • Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I got it and I’m trapped in a weird bubble of shit that doesn’t really interest me and I don’t like microblogging I think

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    • Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I mostly used twitter for checking trending topics for news

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  • anarchy79@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I was finally super duper permabanned from Reddit, and decided to give up. No more workarounds, new accounts, new emails, spoofing MAC addresses, multihop VPNs… And I’ve got to say, I have gotten more done in the past few weeks than in the last year combined.

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    • HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      super duper permabanned from Reddit

      What the hell did you do?!

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• westyvw@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I am so annoyed that Twitter got ruined.

  Don’t get me wrong. I don’t like Twitter. I don’t follow anyone on Twitter. But if I had no other recourse I could complain about a corporation that wasn’t paying any attention to me and they would do something about it.

  By the way fuck FedEX. Is there a place on mastadon I can bitch about FedEx? I have had a mis-delivered package sitting on my porch for over a month. I call about every three or four days and tell them, pick up your package so it can go to the right place. They say they will get it. They never do.

  Never use FedEx.

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  • Venomnik0@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Is there a place on mastadon I can bitch about FedEx? #fuckfedex #fedex

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  • danielton@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Fuck FedEx. Whenever a signature is required, they won’t let me have the package held for pickup anywhere, so I get door tags… even if I’m sitting on the couch watching TV. Called them and they said they don’t require the drivers to knock or ring. I only figured out after a ton of aggravation that if you get three door tags, they will hold the package for pickup for a few days anyway (even though they say they can’t due to “shipper restrictions”).

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• ch1cken@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s not just lemmy that’s benefiting from Elon Musk.

  Whether its lemmy or mastodon, or kbin that grows, we're all benefiting. That's the beauty of federation.

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• Tapioca@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  There were stories that Tesla had a team in place to distract Elon any time he showed up to the office, and I absolutely believe that. Now that Elon has Twitter to distract him, I wonder what that team is up to.

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• s1vgm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’ve been trying to stick to Mastodon and ditch Twitter, but honestly, even though I’ve gotten into the habit of using Mastodon every day, it’s pretty hard for me to resist accepting information from Twitter.

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  • drewofdoom@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s ok to get information from places like X/Twitter or Reddit. It’s even fine to have an account. But it’s better to post your OWN material to platforms that best align with your sensibilities.

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    • dodslaser@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This. I still lurk reddit for information, but I will never contribute. Advertisers these days only care about interaction anyway, so I doubt lurking significantly impacts the profitability one way or the other.

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  • Krachsterben@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My issue with Mastodon is that many big companies still use Twitter/X as their main way to publish news outside of of their websites and press releases.

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    • s1vgm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s all about what matters most to you.

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    • TheWoozy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m not usually interested in what big companies have to say, but I follow some journalists who fortunately cross post to Mastodon, but all discussion takes place on elmo’s X site.

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• egeres@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Apparently, as a competitor of any major platform you just need to get close to the features your adversary has and wait for that site/service to start the process of enshittification, let’s see if reddit makes more blunders

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  • martinmine@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I feel that reddit is already at this stage. It started feeling more like a half-bombed corporate minefield so I decided to flee the site one week ago. This site feels much more like things should be. You can even browse on a decent site on your phone.

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    • nitefox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Try Voyager/WefWef from a browser, it improves the UX a lot

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• MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Fuck spez. Why isn’t he doing more psycho shit like Elon so he can move more people to Lemmy.

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  • me_stesso@feddit.it [bot] ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Give him some more time. It’s not that simple keeping up with Elon’s adventures

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    • jormaig@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      By the way, your username shows as bot to me. I think you need to disable it in your profile.

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• scottywh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Honestly, I joined Twitter begrudgingly in 2015 after ignoring it for years only because I thought it might be easy to keep up with some interesting news before it hit Reddit… and it worked for a while…

  Now, I just wonder why I’m still there at all.

  I also don’t.see why I might want a mastodon account at this point though… I don’t feel like I need a replacement for something that I never really liked…

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• Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I find Mastodon very stuffy and boring, is there a way to shake up my feed? I feel like I’m missing something about how the app works.

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  • figaro@lemdro.id ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’d recommend following the hashtags you want to see. It’s sort of a build-your-own algorithm

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    • towerful@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is a huge thing about the fediverse.
      Users are used to being told what they want (algorithms) without any choice (centralised and only platform).
      Whereas Lemmy and Mastodon require users to curate their stuff.
      Perhaps some “meta fedi” sites would be useful. Things that generate lists of hashtags, instances and users “shake up” your experience

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  • Staccato@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I agree… it feels like the Fediverse doesn’t quite have the same algorithms that the single-corporation services have, and I feel it most in the search to broaden the content I see. Hopefully the exploratory element picks up as time goes on!

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    • rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The Fediverse doesn’t do algorithmic pushing and that’s a feature, not a bug.

      The main ways to find new stuff on Mastodon are all actions taken by you, the user:

      1. Hashtags. Watch and follow hashtags you like. Hashtags are the main way stuff is categorized, and if you use them liberally on your own posts and find others posting to those same tags you can find accounts which align with those interests of yours.
      2. Home. Check out stuff in the “home” timeline which will be your neighbors on your own Mastodon instance. (In the case of general instances this isn’t so helpful, but in those instances themed around a hobby, subculture, geographical area, etc. you know you have that common ground with your neighbors to start with.)
      3. Boosts. When you find people and accounts to follow, they boost things they like, you find things among that to boost, etc. like a friend at a party introducing you to their other friends, friends of friends, etc. leading to your own circle of friends increasing.

      All these are things you do and you have to put a little work in to make them happen, but it’s purely fueled by your own interests and wants instead of the traditional social-media algorithm which does a little aligned-interest stuff but is mostly powered by whoever has money to pay the platform to force them into your timeline. On Twitter or Facebook you get shown what the platform thinks they can get paid by showing you. On the Fediverse the rules of invasive centralized ad-choked personal-data-harvesting social media don’t apply; you get shown what you actually want and request.

      It’s different and change can be scary, but when you get used to the idea that things don’t have to work the old way anymore it can end up being a good thing.

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  • tty84@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    have a look here lemmyverse.net/communities

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• dx1@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  There’s an ethical consideration when you sell a company. Dorsey and co. took a big payout and this is the result.

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  • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It was a corporation. Corporations exist to get shareholders paid. You can’t expect those to not be for sale for the right price, which in this case was more than it was worth. If you want the people running companies to make decisions based on ethics, you should ban publicly traded corporations first otherwise it’s just not happening.

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    • dx1@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I mean, they routinely make the unethical decision.

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    • Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You’re right, this is the only decision where we can’t judge Dorsey’s ethics, and we should be attacking a dozen other positions and mistakes he’s made. If it would even help; twitter addicts probably don’t wanna hear it.

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  • chaircat@lemdro.id ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I recall Dorsey publicly coming out in support of Elon’s Twitter well after the sale. Maybe there was no ethical conflict for Dorsey and he likes what he sees.

    Yeah, maybe all of this wouldn’t have happened if the equity was split among the employees.

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• solidsnake2085@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Good, isn’t this what people want? Twitter to shut down? I’ve been hoping he just closes up shop and gets rid of it.

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  • danielton@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    His ego is too big.

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• jayrodtheoldbod@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  that’s cool. The Masto instance I’ve been on for the last half year is no longer available and I’ll have to start over because I didn’t have a main and a back up account like I ended up with on Lemmy, but sure, that’s alright. I have no idea what happened, the instance still has a blank page up, but it ain’t Mastodon.

  I was finally feeling moved in but now, kaput.

  I don’t think this thing was really ready for absolutely everyone on Twitter to bail onto it, is the problem. I don’t think it was ever supposed to be. It was always supposed to be like a clubhouse for people who didn’t mind being the dweebs of the internet.

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  • xcxcb@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    For everyone on Twitter to bail onto it there would need to be an instance with the same level of funding and infrastructure as Twitter to support it.

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  • Kaldo@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Mastodon will never be a twitter replacement simply because of lack of algorithm and proper content discovery, but seemingly the devs and admins there are fine with it and prefer it that way. It is definitely not filling my need for curated news and discovery of new interests that twitter used to provide before it went to shit, seems like bluesky might take over that function since most big content creators are shilling their bs pages nowadays.

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    • thehatfox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The lack of algorithms is what a lot of Mastodon users like about the platform. Many just want a timeline of posts of the accounts nd hashtags they follow.

      There is also room for both to exist, one doesn’t have to replace the other.

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  • randomperson@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Sounds just like Lemmy and any other fediverse service.

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• MyOpinion@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  That is right baby. The Fedi is a life raft always waiting to scoop people up.

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• Stinkywinks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Why are people so fucking addicted to Twitter? It’s just people posting a few sentences about shit I see on the Internet already. But what do I know, I’ve gone my entire life without using the stupid shit. Maybe I’m not taking into account how many people want to be internet celebrities with their parroted tweets and recycled jokes. Why is it so hard to make another site where dumbass celebrities can feed 2 lines to the drooling masses?

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  • t_jpeg@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Twitter culture (depending on what parts of twitter you were on) was really hard to explain. Unless you used it and really knew how to, you don’t really get the benefit from it. Its feed structure combine with post length and algorith meant that it was really easy for you to know what other people were saying about things going on right now (reality shows, football matches etc). It also made searching for news so easy (due to its Trending feature), so you were kept in the loop about things.

    The meme culture of Twitter was also very unique. I can say with absolute confidence that Twitter memes were bomb (before Musk ruined it). Way better than any memes I’d come across on Reddit or Lemmy so far.

    The only problem is you had to take Twitter in small doses. Stan culture and cyber-bullying culture were real negatives of Twitter. Certain people on that app were unhinged and that went unchecked because of how echo-chambers were set by the algorithm. You really had to check yoursel to make sure you weren’t being corrupted, especially because cyber-bullying was so normalised there (at least in my experience).

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• anarchy79@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Can we have something nice here please? I miss when the internet was nice, and you were allowed to talk to each other about whatever you wanted.

  TRON FIGHTS FOR THE USER!

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• ioNabio@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Someone in an unrelated discussion, wrote on LinkedIn that blackberry was profitable and grew for a few years after iPhone was anounced. The same for blockbuster after Netflix came to business. Then he was asking on what technologies today will be obsolete because an iPhone has emerged. For me lemmy or mastodon although slow but slowly will eat the competitors as they develop.

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• schwim@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The term soaring is pretty relative in this case. It’s still completely unknown to the majority of the world. It’s just like Lemmy, where the very few rigid types that absolutely couldn’t stand for one particular thing that happened to their social network will do anything, including cutting their nose off to spite their face rather than continue to use it. That’s why we’re all here and it’s why nobody else but us are coming.

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• Steeve@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Soaring? 2.1M users is soaring? I’m all for the Fediverse, but it will never reach mainstream social media numbers, and honestly I hope it doesn’t.

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• nutsack@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  my engagement rates on mastodon and bluesky have been significantly higher than twitter despite having 1/5 the number of followers

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• LittleLordLimerick@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It won’t last unless Mastadon gets some serious improvements. It’s buggy, glitchy, feature-poor, and confusing to use. There’s no way in its current state it’s going to compete with the big guys for the average person’s attention.

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• saltedFish@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I made a mastodon account but there aren’t as many meme feeds on mastodon.

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• autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This is the best summary I could come up with:

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  As Twitter ditches its iconic branding in favor of owner Elon Musk’s favorite letter “X,” its open source rival Mastodon is seeing usage numbers soar.

  According to a new post from Mastodon founder and CEO Eugen Rochko, the number of monthly active users for his Twitter alternative has been steadily climbing over the past couple of months to have now reached 2.1 million — or, as remarked Rochko, “not far off from our last peak.”

  Meta’s recently launched Twitter rival known as Instagram Threads has committed to integrating with ActivityPub, which may have raised awareness around Mastodon and decentralized social networking in general.

  Musk claimed that Twitter needed to change the rate limits to deal with a significant increase in bots and spam.

  Or perhaps, it’s a combination of both of these things and more, including the momentum created by the launches of polished third-party Mastodon clients that have made using the social network less complicated and more enjoyable.

  Other Mastodon apps like Ice Cubes and the no-frills client Radiant have also debuted, while Mastodon’s official mobile app received a refresh of its own earlier this month, aimed at addressing various pain points and adding more customization options.

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  I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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