Submitted 3 weeks ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
Breakthrough technology, never seen before in the mobile market. Apple, like always, surprises the word with the latest never seen before tech that will become mainstream in the near future, thanks to apple and it’s affordable pricing for everyday customers.
Now just slap that 2,5-3k RRP on the device and let it sell out in.
Apple’s entire history as an org has been as a fast follower, not a first mover.
The Apple Newton is a fast example of why they avoid being a first mover.
They’ve also become really, really good at outsourcing R&D to other companies. This lets them outsource the expense of trial and error, and swoop down with a mature product once everyone else has paid for it.
15 years ago they famously patented, and then leaked that they were working on a fingerprint reader authentication method, and then they watched the Android manufacturers bend over backwards to implement it so they could say they did it “first.” In those early days of smartphones, being first to implement something and then claiming Apple copied it was a big deal for people who wanted to be first movers (today they are called “techbros”). Motorola Mobility ate the cost of R&D, was never able to recoup the costs, and ended up being sold to Google for their patent portfolio. By the time Apple released Touch ID two and a half years later, Motorola Mobility was a shell of itself, and ended up being sold a second time to Lenovo.
Foldable phones have been a thing for a while, and Apple just sat back and took notes on what everyone else was doing. Surface Duo killed Microsoft’s last attempt at a mobile device. Now it’s a relatively mature market (we have tri-fold phones for two years now and tablets that fold into a laptop with a bluetooth keyboard) and now Apple will swoop in and bring the rest of the market.
The money isn’t in being a first mover; it’s in making a reliable product that everyone can use. It shouldn’t be lost on anyone that Apple made a trillion dollars while OpenBSD (upstream for a lot of Apple’s ecosystem) struggled to pay its light bills.
Apple usually prefers to do it right rather than do it first.
“fast” follower? Are we talking about the same apple who just released 2006’s windows Vista aero theme as a new design in 2025?
Apple is what we call “Sondermüll”.
Be phone engineer Finally manufacture one-atom thick phone The screen is nearly entirely invisible due to its thinness You can’t tap it anywhere or it immediately breaks into a million crumbs like filo dough The components had to be spread over a 200 square meter sheet to fit all their atoms side by side Present product to the board, instantly promoted to CEO Product releases Everyone buys the waferphone “It’s so thin” they say “Unparalleled convenience and an incredible feat of engineering” Third parties begin selling titanium insulation sheetcases to protect your waferphone Too big and heavy to take outside, everyone stores their waferphones underground at waferlockers All phones are now completely inaccessible remotely or physically Technological nirvana attained at last
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I would like a feature where you fold an iphone into a linux phone.
Gonna need to ask santa for that next year ;) you juuust missed the cutoff.
I’m quietly praying a certain launch goes so we’ll we see a steam phone eventually.
I’m just looking for a device that can also perfectly hold my tacos
I mean, do they even have a case against them? It’s not like they stole the information, or signed a contract with Apple.
Also, fuck Apple, and Google, and the rest of them. If they can’t keep a lid on their “secrets”, that’s on them.
There are a few people that Apple would love to delete from the face of the planet.
Bloomberg’s Mark Gurman, who’s consistently divulging Apple’s plans, is one. TF International Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who is always sharing information based on his supply chain checks, is high up on the list, too. Apple uses Gurman for controlled leaks to build hype. He hasn’t been sued yet.
But YouTuber Jon Prosser is public enemy number one that Apple is trying to truly silence. And for good reason: the man who Apple sued in July for leaking iOS 26 and Liquid Glass keeps spoiling Apple’s unreleased products with high-quality 3D renders in his videos
Now Prosser, Apple definitely doesn’t use him for leaks since he is being sued. He’s just an idiot.
I was actually looking at foldable phones a few weeks back, seems like 2 screens isn’t enough to make a difference, but 3 screens are. It’s either I get that or a foldable 1 screen phone (like a flip phone).
On another note, after Tim apple bribed Trump with a gold ball I’ve decided to no longer buy apple products again. And it’s kind of a big deal because I’ve had iPhones since 2008.
I’m not disagreeing with you but whose phone do you plan on buying next? Pichai + Brin also bribed trump (they were at the inauguration alongside Tim Apple and others)
I don’t know yet. I’ll get a new phone when this one dies. The point is that I used to buy iPhones as default, and that is no longer the case. I wonder how many customers they lost like me - theoretically I could have been a life long customer.
That fold trophy though really rubbed me the wrong way. And I hate apple for that.
Buy secondhand, especially if you still want phones. Money goes to lower class (something like Facebook marketplace has no tax), no money to “less bad” competing companies, and you’ll get a much cheaper product which still has the “appleness” you want.
It’s either I get that or a foldable 1 screen phone (like a flip phone).
From the times when things were actually convenient to use. Buttons shouldn’t get random presses while the thing is in your pocket. Screens should be protected from scratches and dirt while in your pocket. It’s more compact when folded while in your pocket, while thicker, but an apple fits in my pocket, so thickness is not a problem.
Remind me what happened? Ah, yes, Steve Jobs went out on a stage and confused the hell out of millions of hamsters, telling them he’s brought them their Star Trek communicator. Well, that’s not what he said, but that’s what they heard and what he meant.
I’ve gotten used to making sure my hands are not sweaty when using a phone, and that it’s practically not usable when it’s cold and your fingers are not very precise, like when walking or when in a crowded place, and that you should be careful with that pocket to not occasionally unlock the thing and repost something personal into apartment building common WhatsApp chat, things like that.
But sometimes I recall that with a Motorola flip phone I could do everything with no loss of ability or speed in all these situations.
Not even talking about battery life.
On another note, after Tim apple bribed Trump with a gold ball I’ve decided to no longer buy apple products again.
Oh, that’s when.
You might like this, maybe: github.com/Dakkaron/Fairberry
So if wasn’t their overpriced cult bullshit that turned you off Apple. Well at least you drew the line at their endorsement of a felonious authoritarian pedo. Minimum possible bar cleared.
It makes huge difference. I’m on Fold since Fold 4 and would never go back to a slab phone mostly because I just read books or text web/social media. The square display is perfect for this as you get proper 80-120 character lines with large font and enough space for media etc.
As if a foldable mobile was some kind of industry super secret anyway. Apple is a joke.
I like the idea of a foldable phone but what I really want is a phone that folds enough to fit in my women’s pants pockets.
The other solution is to make women’s pants with pockets that can actually hold things.
inconceivable!
They do, they’re just not skin tight. You can’t really fit much into a pocket in super tight jeans.
This is actually why I adore my Motorola razr. First phone I’ve had in I don’t know how many years that fits easily into the front pocket of my jeans and is relatively unnoticeable. Love the folding form factor.
Or perhaps just get a pair of pants that doesn’t suck? Designing a phone around womens complete lack of self awareness seems not so good, it’s way to volatile.
I can see you don’t spent much time with women.
Women aren’t choosing pants with shitty pockets intentionally.
Some of next years linux phones look quite compelling. Lora radios and powerful enough to pull off what canonical and Microsoft failed to do years ago.
If they succeed, it will be absolutely devastating to an industry that absolutely deserves to be slapped around. One device that transforms to full multiple demands beaded on what you plug it into. It’s the continuum concept without Microsoft tripping over its own dick.
Can you link to some of the Linux phones you are talking about. My next phone will be a linux phone and it’s 9+ months out.
Personally speaking, requirements for a phone now include a high resolution camera, NFC payments, some sort of screen mirroring for cars.
I had to revert from gOS because two of those were not working.
Wait your pants have pockets and they’re not vestigial
Most of them are. I can really only carry things in back pockets, but then it makes sitting awkward.
People who own Apple devices are instantly lower on my respectometer.
People who judge other people based on nothing other than what technology brand they use instantly are instantly lower on my respectometer.
Fuck off with that shit.
I used Symbian for years, then I used android tablets as a complement to the Symbian phones for years, then I got an iPhone for work, and when my last Symbian device died I got an iPhone as I knew the OS from my work phone. A few years later I tried an Android phone for a few months, but when the display got totaled in a drop, and I had to send the phone away, I just got back to my iPhone as it was easier to fix on the spot in local repair shops.
I am an IT guy, I don’t care about blue or green bubbles, if you are on Android, that is fine, that probably works better for you, for me iOS has so far served me well.
Stop judging others for their preference of tech brands. Apple and Google are both evil.
It’s not just about the bubbles - it’s about having congruent feature sets. When the Android phone joins the group message, the experience is notably different.
The other thing that drove me to iPhone over Android is that the experience is largely consistent. You can tell people what to do from a far based on OS version and phone model because there are so few models. It’s really hard to ask your elderly parent which phone and is this or that feature available remotely. You never know which manufacturer removed what feature
In iOS? Go here. Do this. Do that. Done
FTFY: People who own Apple devices and believe they are superior are morons.
FTFY
FTFY: People who ~
own Apple devices and~ believe they are superior are morons.
Remove the outside screen and all cameras and I’d be slightly more interested.
remove all the screens and the charging port and I’m sold.
Remove the whole phone and I’m touching grass
More of a fidget toy at that point. I’m in. I’d go as high as $8.
It too late for this product to succeed. If it isn’t absolutely perfect, it won’t matter that it’s great. It took so long to get here the public has unrealistic expectations now.
Meanwhile, the techbros and pretty much poisoned consumer electronics and everyone is looking for a way to jump ship.
I think we are going to see Linux phones get sales like the iPhone air did this year, which weren’t great for Apple but mean something very different for competition.
Whose making this phone. Nothing coming out seems decent yet. The best one has cut down specs from its none Linux version.
Well I’m pretty sure Android is a Linux offshoot iirc? Fair phone comes to mind but I’m not sure if it’s linux based
The biggest problem with these is the price. Apple wants us on a two year upgrade cycle but these phones are $1500-2000. That’s insane.
Apple was actually the first to offer several years of software updates and usually their hardware has been very durable. The 1-2 year upgrade cycle on Apple was only ever for stupid clout chasers who think it matters if you have the latest. Among regular Apple users, keeping a phone for years isn’t uncommon.
Still wouldn’t buy one of these because I don’t want my phone to fold. I want a new iPhone mini. And ideally a Mini Pro.
I’m not sure if it’s possible but a mini pro but with good battery life would be the ultimate phone for me personally. I’m basically always on my feet but use my phone a lot so a large battery is important, but I also want a small phone and a good camera. I doubt that’ll happen though.
He says 2000-2500 for this one
That is literally a Pixel Fold
Watched the video on mine. I was thinking the same thing lol. Only difference is the alleged no center dent, which, tbh, people make too big of a deal out of. Once you use it for a bit you don’t even notice it anymore. Meh.
Omg it is it even has the horrible curved screen and little notch. How could apple do this horrendous design. Oh wait they gave the notch.
A 5.5” screen is way too small to be worth it. If this costs more than an a iPad + iPhone Pro, this thing is gonna flop more than the Vision Pro did.
Tbh, I think that Apple makes stuff like the Vision Pro not to make money but to appear as if they have some kind of technological leadership.
They can claim that they have the best headset on the market. No need to actually sell any units.
(And of course other manufacturers could make just as nice headsets for that price point, but most other manufacturers actually need to sell units and thus they build them with realistic hardware.)
iPhones are too locked down for the hardware they have. I’m writing this on an iPhone 15 …
The foldable I like the most I’ve seen are the Motorola razrs. That’s vertical. The best fat foldables are going to be Android because of all the video game emulators for Android
Here we go again,apple gets another feature that’s been on the market for years and normies will cry innovation yet again.
Ewwwww
Message go Apple: “Small Hands exists, you fucks!”
Also invent something useful. Seamless foldables is, ehh.
How about a phone you don’t need too touch? Like make siri actually functional?
Or be dramatic and figure out a wag to counter the dumming down you propagate with your phones and find a way to improve peoples critical thinking skills…
I really don’t want Apple to enter this market because then all the current OEMs will just be even more incentivized not to make generational advancements, and to just copy Apple’s Chinese grade quality to sell more slop because idiots will buy.
Google already threw a grenade with their subpar pixel fold and then Samsung magically swapped off snapdragon for their zflip. If Apple joins, next they’ll start using plastic for the shell and still charge $999.
People who think this won’t be a competitive product can just look to the past 20 years of Apple successfully selling stupid shit for exorbitant prices. I would even bet money it comes with an even deeper crease than current gen foldables against the “new hinge tech” hype this guy is claiming.
As with all hyped leaks- I’ll believe it when I see it.
I really am interested in a folding phone, but i’m not comfortable with paying apple any new money if i can avoid it. I’ve completed my data migration off of iCloud and into self-hosted solutions, but i’m continuing to pay for iCloud until i’m confident i won’t somehow have issues with nextcloud and immich.
When my iPhone 14 Pro eventually fails to meet my needs, I’m planning on getting a Google Pixel 10 Pro Fold, not because Google is any better, I don’t want to be giving them money either, but it is compatible with GrapheneOS.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Assuming he’s right, they’re keeping the stupid camera bump thing from the air? Everyone mocked that, why would they do that.
scratchee@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
The camera bump sure isn’t going away for a folding phone. cameras have fundamental volume requirements to maintain quality, if they don’t think they can justify making the normal iPhone thick enough to enclose the camera then there’s no way in hell they’ll think the folding phones doubled width can include it, if anything you’d expect it to be more prominent on a folding model
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
how do you propose removing it?
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The marketing about it being an incredibly thin phone was a misstep - it just looked absurd to have such a chunky lump stuck onto it, and it felt very much like they were attempting a have cake / eat cake situation by claiming incredible camera stats (which werent very good) and an amazingly thin phone, and then that giant electronic bump had an external lens on it too.
Had it just been an ugly phone, I doubt it would have mer with anywhere near the dame criticism, but all the adcopy about how thin it was overtop of photos where you could see it had a giant lump on it felt really dishonest, and if this article is accurate it may count among the biggest apple flops ever.
0x0@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
lol how is 11mm extremely thick
SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
No thicker than very popular and successful phones from just 5 years ago. They can use the extra space for a larger battery, so they dont have to nerf performance to maintain stability in older phones. They can also use the space to restore repairability.
But probably not for a folding phone, since making both sides that thick will probably be too much.
frizzo@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Lol “extremely thick phone”. Get that apple boot, you got it to your gills this time. Only when it’s razor thin and cuts the hands of the unworthy will then your lust be satisfied.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It does not surprise me that the Air is literally the folding phone without the second screen.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It slightly does me, given that the Air was (apparently) a huge commercial flop. You’d think they’d revisit the soundly mocked design instead of recycling it.
FireWire400@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The stupid camera bump thing they totally didn’t steal from Google
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
are we really going to start counting who stole what in all smartphone design.
bdonvr@thelemmy.club 3 weeks ago
Man anyone else remember the Nexus 6P?
warm@kbin.earth 3 weeks ago
This folding iPhone also looks like the Pixel Fold
bdonvr@thelemmy.club 3 weeks ago
I mean, being stupid thin is something that a foldable phone has to be, so that it ends up being normal-ish thickness when folded. So it tracks that they’d design it like their ultra-thin phone.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
But it’s not stupid thin, it’s got a giant lump on it?