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Palantir CEO Says a Surveillance State Is Preferable to China Winning the AI Race

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Submitted ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨schizoidman@lemmy.zip⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://gizmodo.com/palantir-ceo-says-a-surveillance-state-is-preferable-to-china-winning-the-ai-race-2000683144

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  • REDACTED@infosec.pub ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How is scaring away smart people going to help you against China?

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  • ronigami@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    just call him by his name ffs

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  • tias@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Palantir CEO will be among the first to be lined up against the wall when the revolution comes.

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  • Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “When did Saruman the white abandon reason for madness”

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  • orioler25@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wow, they really are just gonna make you kill them eh.

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  • sns@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Every day that goes by I better understand what Ted Kaczynski saw.

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    • BD89@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The same people that experimented on him psychologically in college are the same people who prop up Palantir.

      Not saying I agree with what he did or what you said, but facts are facts.

      He was part of some of the same experiments that were a part of MKULTRA.

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  • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “now if you just sign here to buy our Stasi-Bot…”

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  • bravesirrbn@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What an absolute cunt

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  • 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    His head on a pike would be preferrable to both.

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    • passwordforgetter@lemmy.nz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Legalise it plz.

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  • percent@infosec.pub ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How would a surveillance state even prevent that?

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    • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If you beat them at it, they can’t do it themselves! Duh! Oh, wait.

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  • awful_neutral@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ahh yes. The only 2 options

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  • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Breaking News.

    Man with vested interest in selling his services, insists buying his services is the only way to save us from the evil foreign menace

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    • MrSmiley@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If you read his book The Technological Republic, he calls for a « collectivist » ideology and the merger of corporation and state. A few historical examples to choose from would be Fascist Italy, Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia or Communist China to get an idea of his vision for America’s future.

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      • demonsword@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        he calls for a « collectivist » ideology and the merger of corporation and state

        Collectivism my ass, neither he nor any of his fellow billionaires will ever relinquish ownership of their companies. They simply want to also own the state and rule like feudal lords.

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      • BanMe@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        …the 1984 Macintosh commercial…

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      • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        What? The man who rivals the spying ability of many nations isnt totally on the up and up? Whuda thunkit!

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  • brownsugga@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Nothing is permanent

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    • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I can think of one thing that’s pretty fucking permanent…

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      • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Let’s not say that too much, and eat a needless ban, shaln’t we?

        (I know I butchered it, and I am not sorry)

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  • treesquid@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Look at this unfuckable loser. He’s like if someone glued Steve Bannon’s pubes to Steven Miller’s head. “Let us destroy all freedom in the USA so China doesn’t win the race to economically out-compete the USA” is as bullshit a justification as there has ever been for anything in the history of everything.

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  • AeonFelis@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Palantir CEO Says a Surveillance State Is Preferable to China Winning the AI Race Planatir shareholders not getting rich fast enough

    Fixed it

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  • XLE@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Alex Karp thinks people only care about one kind of surveillance. And he thinks he will alleviate our fears if he gives us a pinky promise not to surveil us in that one way.

    That way is cheating.

    He later brings this up again, saying that most surveillance technology isn’t determining, “Am I shagging too many people on the side and lying to my partner?” Your guess is as good as any as to what that’s all about.

    Well, thanks for clearing that up, Alex. That was indeed my sole concern.

    (The rest of the article is full of indecipherable quotes from Alex, which demonstrates you don’t need to be smart to be rich.)

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  • TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s funny how many governments are getting surveillance wrong. Mass surveillance and aggregating the data with other social network databases is where the danger is at. Personal surveillance is right up there with recording authorities abusing their power and protecting your home. Ironically, the reverse is happening. The same governments where laws like GDPR criminalize personal surveillance also sign up for palantir’s services and mass surveillance systems as they allow companies to no longer give a shit on their websites about the GDPR and effectively allow them to collect all the personal data GDPR was supposed to protect. People shouldn’t be so keen to disseminate public videos onto social networks, but they should definitely be allowed to record and submit them to the authorities or to the courts if necessary.

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  • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Man who is the CEO of a business selling mass surveillance beyond the likes of even George Orwell’s 1984 says we should run head first into a surveillance state from which he will directly profit from.

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  • PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Hell no

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    • DamnianWayne@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Let me second that… Oh hell, no

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  • iAvicenna@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    anything is preferable to people like you

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  • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I hope he puts some camaras near his house. Then we’ll all know where he is at all times.

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  • pasdechance@jlai.lu ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is Bubble-101. Before the thing exists, imagine the future…

    threatening that another country will get there first combined with pure players like Nvidia, the uncertainty of whether or not it could be a good investment and being able to convince governments and investors to pump money into it.

    If AGI ever becomes what they are promising, everything after 2022 should be a case study for marketing and communications students because they are doing a piss-poor job inspiring confidence and just sound like grifters.

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    • 87Six@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m feeling really bad about this. I’m an avid global index fund investor (if I can even call myself that by the sums I put in) but seeing this shit unfold…I haven’t put anything in this month and I’ll be looking to invest in bonds or something.

      Putting my money into funds that are even partially invested into this suddenly looks really, really unsafe, even if these funds are generally really good long term.

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      • veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        S&P490 has been flat at ~ -0.1 Yoy, so yea of the US economy feels pretty shakey apart from the top10.

        It’s probably a much more prudent thing to diversify into either PM or other markets, but it’s tough to know which other market is actually good…

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  • Tangentism@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    CEOs are getting too comfortable again. One needs to be pew-pewed in the streets to thin the herd and guarantee next year’s harvest!

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  • boaratio@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If you’ve never seen this guy giving a talk, it’s worth looking at. This guy is a total tweeker. Can’t sit still, and has insane thoughts he’s just willing to say in public.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What’s crazy is I agree with some of what he says, but disagree entirely with his company.

      Basically, he says the Antichrist promises security in exchange for giving up your freedom. However, his company does exactly that, it promises security in exchange for taking away freedom from the people. So at best he’s a hypocrite and at worst an accelerationist.

      I agree that people are willing to trade freedom for security, but I disagree that’s what governments should do. Governments need to protect freedoms first, and security second.

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      • palordrolap@fedia.io ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Oh! This must be the guy who was called out on that exact thing and it gave him serious pause before he was able to jump-start the bullsh-tting part of his brain.

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  • Formfiller@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The public needs public mass surveillance on CEOs and the top 1% only. They are the top threat to the world

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    • voldage@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There is that quick and funny operation that you can do using guilotine (or anything you can get your hands on if you’re creative enough!) that significantly reduce the need for oversight. I agree we should put monitoring around the mass grave in case those ghouls can actually get up. It’s a stretch, but better safe than sorry.

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      • Formfiller@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Sure but it’s looking a lot more likely that the mass graves will be for the working class

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  • JigglySackles@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Fuckin lunatics.

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    • Sektor@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Fuckin lunatics with money, power and agenda.

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  • cv_octavio@piefed.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I bet you’d be able to get a great grip on his hair as you wind up with the other hand for that oh-so-punchable face.

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  • lmuel@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How do you win this race? By having the most capable unsustainable LLM? Not sure if I care…

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