His head on a pike would be preferrable to both.
Palantir CEO Says a Surveillance State Is Preferable to China Winning the AI Race
Submitted 1 day ago by schizoidman@lemmy.zip to technology@lemmy.world
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100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 10 hours ago
passwordforgetter@lemmy.nz 10 hours ago
Legalise it plz.
FarrellPerks@feddit.uk 1 day ago
“Owner of surveillance apparatus reckons we should all just chill and accept total surveillance”
This fucking dude.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Like seriously, in what reality are these two things NOT mutually exclusive? Also doesn’t palantir have contracts with China?
frog_brawler@lemmy.world 1 day ago
China WILL win the AI race and that’s because they invested in infrastructure and their power grid.
The US could have done that too, but we gave the money to billionaires instead. Building a surveillance state doesn’t fix any of the mistakes we made and they’ll still win the AI race.
billwashere@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Not to sound like a tankie but China has made smarter decisions with regard to power generation. The current shift away from renewables (and shift back to fossil fuel) AND more reliance on central power generation are great for billionaires but just dumb for every other reason. And with the what appears to be advancing in battery technology more distributed solar cells with local storage would free up more power for the power hungry data centers. Not to mention the AI programs there are not run by douchebags like Sam Altman and Mustafa Suleyman.
I also think the current path of AGI study via more advanced LLM research is the wrong path. A language generator is never going to be “smart”. But what do I know, I don’t have billions of dollars and lie constantly.
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 hours ago
It’s not Tankie to admit aspects of reality. China is doing some things well. China has spent the last 20 years investing in itself, America has spent the last 20 years investing in other countries for a possible ROI for the military-industrial complex.
What would be Tankie would be to then extrapolate from that and say they’re actually the best state in the world and anyone who says otherwise is a imperialist brainwashed pigdog.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 day ago
So we need to start covert anti-corruption efforts n China, since China will win, we don’t want a single party member destroying the world…I don’t know what we can actually do, but it is crucial for the human race that China develops more benevolent values if at all possible.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
Both CCP and US Republicans are evil, but republicans are also stupid.
Evil would obviously win against Evil+Stupid
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Breaking News.
Man with vested interest in selling his services, insists buying his services is the only way to save us from the evil foreign menace
MrSmiley@lemmy.zip 15 hours ago
If you read his book The Technological Republic, he calls for a « collectivist » ideology and the merger of corporation and state. A few historical examples to choose from would be Fascist Italy, Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia or Communist China to get an idea of his vision for America’s future.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
What? The man who rivals the spying ability of many nations isnt totally on the up and up? Whuda thunkit!
treadful@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
I’d rather be a free and open society than win any kind of industrial race.
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 hours ago
Man who is the CEO of a business selling mass surveillance beyond the likes of even George Orwell’s 1984 says we should run head first into a surveillance state from which he will directly profit from.
awful_neutral@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 hours ago
Ahh yes. The only 2 options
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 1 day ago
“A surveillance state is needed to beat china who is evil because it’s a surveillance state”
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
The difference between developed world democracies and other governments is that all opposition parties are allied with CIA and by transposition, Israel. Divisiveness purely to achieve maximum corruption is formula for rulership, and praising “freedom supremacy” is just a tool for corrupt warmongering. The only protection from CIA overthrow is to fight their hybrid control, and disruptive terrorism, operations. Chinese government is not trying to oppress their citizens or economic pluralism. If surveillance allows unattended ebike charging, and no crime, then that is a net benefit compared to loss of making WInnie the Poo jokes.
Palantir, more than all other US tech oligarchs, is dedicated to Israel supremacy, and Israel/Palantir now embraces full Trump/MAGA platform because fascism is more pro Israel/Oligarchy than pluralism. The absurd pace of AI investment in US is entirely based on the certainty that the US govermnent/military will buy all of the datacenter time. Destroying US economy to feed tech and climate terrorist energy oligarchs.
War on China and Russia is a losing proposition for both humanity and the west. Collapse is destined because for the last 25 years, “we must bankrupt ourselves, or humanity wins” has been the bipartisan CIA/Israel mantra that no one ever challenges, and news media feeds 24/7.
All big tech is firmly allied with US empire, and all of them are very polite to MAGA/Israel, with data collection used to help it. Palantir has the software to mine it effectively. US oligarchy, Palantir/OpenAI/Oracle/Tesla has been especially desperate this week. All the money, explicitly, must be given to them or China wins. It’s not even core science/technology anymore, its pure software/datacenter oligarch giveaways needed.
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 1 day ago
Chinese government is not trying to oppress their citizens
yes they are
obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
It’s hard to tell if a post like this is intentional propaganda, or just “the enemy of my enemy must be my friend” brainwashed babbling.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 18 hours ago
Everybody Sucks Here
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Stamau123@lemmy.world 1 day ago
“It’s just… We’re named after the artifact the ancient evil used to peer on the world.”
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 day ago
he has several companies named after lotr things, ANDURIL,mithril i think, lembas,etc.
Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The public needs public mass surveillance on CEOs and the top 1% only. They are the top threat to the world
voldage@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
There is that quick and funny operation that you can do using guilotine (or anything you can get your hands on if you’re creative enough!) that significantly reduce the need for oversight. I agree we should put monitoring around the mass grave in case those ghouls can actually get up. It’s a stretch, but better safe than sorry.
Formfiller@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Sure but it’s looking a lot more likely that the mass graves will be for the working class
ThanksObama@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Actual humans believe life without Palantir is preferable to China winning the AI race.
Ancalagon@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Well this Palantir the originals can stay, those that were not lost.
harfang@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
True
aliser@lemmy.world 1 day ago
a surveillance megacorp says surveillance is good and needed. cartoonish evil.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Hell no
DamnianWayne@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Let me second that… Oh hell, no
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Boy I wish we as a society would stop reporting on these sociopathic vampires spouting whatever nonsense just popped into their heads
Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
How would you know that they are sociopathic vampires if no one reported on what they believed in?
deranger@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
By the sheer amount of accumulated wealth.
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 1 day ago
In this case we should indeed report on them because it is not much clear to the public what palantir does and they have ties and contracts with the government
AeonFelis@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Palantir CEO Says a Surveillance State Is Preferable to
China Winning the AI RacePlanatir shareholders not getting rich fast enoughFixed it
treesquid@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Look at this unfuckable loser. He’s like if someone glued Steve Bannon’s pubes to Steven Miller’s head. “Let us destroy all freedom in the USA so China doesn’t win the race to economically out-compete the USA” is as bullshit a justification as there has ever been for anything in the history of everything.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 hours ago
“now if you just sign here to buy our Stasi-Bot…”
cv_octavio@piefed.ca 1 day ago
I bet you’d be able to get a great grip on his hair as you wind up with the other hand for that oh-so-punchable face.
bravesirrbn@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
What an absolute cunt
percent@infosec.pub 14 hours ago
How would a surveillance state even prevent that?
Lemminary@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
If you beat them at it, they can’t do it themselves! Duh! Oh, wait.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
us winning the ai race. china winning the ai race. who gives a shit i still wont care about ai.
ours@lemmy.world 1 day ago
“First one to rid itself of its human workforce” makes the race sound less enticing.
demizerone@lemmy.world 1 day ago
This guy needs to fuck right off.
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Right off the face of the planet and into the sun.
Seriously. Can we please launch Peter Thiel into the sun?
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
The what race? No one has been working on AI for a while… if he means LLMs and similar generative models there’s only the race to see how long it takes for the models to be so poisoned by being trained on their own slop that they no longer can produce the illusion of giving useful results (seems like the current generation is almost there, already giving diminishing results), and the race to extract as much money as possible from the economy before the first one ends and the bubble pops…
survirtual@lemmy.world 1 day ago
…what?
LLMs are AI. What is this?
I am asking seriously. Can someone explain the context of this nonsense?
Are we really entering a luddite phase again?
themurphy@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Doesnt matter if we take LLMs out of the equations. AI is being worked on in many forms constantly.
Palantir is an example, which makes the statement laughable.
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
No they’re not. They’re fancy autocomplete. Statistics engines. Extremely more expensive but not particularly more capable Markov chains.
Them being marketed as AI doesn’t make them AI, it just makes them a scam.
Hammock_tann@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Technically, LLMs aren’t ai. What they do is basically predict relationship between words. They can’t reason or count or learn.
themurphy@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
No one has been working on AI for a while…
It’s rage bait… Or the guy is the most ego centric arrogant who only thinks the reality in is his 15 headlines a day.
thatradomguy@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Can somebody please hack this guys socials and leak all his private info so we see him eat his words?
PattyMcB@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Ask AI to do it
db2@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I can’t wait to see this guy hanging by his left nut while people take shots at him like a piñata.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 day ago
its nothing more than a creation of thiel, a soulless puppet animated from various materials.
boaratio@lemmy.world 1 day ago
If you’ve never seen this guy giving a talk, it’s worth looking at. This guy is a total tweeker. Can’t sit still, and has insane thoughts he’s just willing to say in public.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
What’s crazy is I agree with some of what he says, but disagree entirely with his company.
Basically, he says the Antichrist promises security in exchange for giving up your freedom. However, his company does exactly that, it promises security in exchange for taking away freedom from the people. So at best he’s a hypocrite and at worst an accelerationist.
I agree that people are willing to trade freedom for security, but I disagree that’s what governments should do. Governments need to protect freedoms first, and security second.
palordrolap@fedia.io 23 hours ago
Oh! This must be the guy who was called out on that exact thing and it gave him serious pause before he was able to jump-start the bullsh-tting part of his brain.
JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Fuckin lunatics.
Sektor@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Fuckin lunatics with money, power and agenda.
sampao@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Let’s put cameras in all his houses and monitor him 24/7. Maybe he’d like it though?
adespoton@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Aliens (even illegal ones) are preferable to an asteroid strike, too.
Too bad they aren’t mutually exclusive.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 day ago
what about illegal space aliens.
fletcher_bosom@lemmy.world 1 day ago
False dichotomy, much?
6nk06@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Crazy fucks do that sometimes. I wonder why people still listen to them.