I came here around the time the rif app shut down, and the general vibe I get from this place is much more negative than when I joined. Is Lemmy growing more toxic or is it just my imagination?
No, fuck you
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Does anyone else notice an up tick in hostility on Lemmy lately?
Submitted 20 hours ago by Jomega@lemmy.world to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world
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cley_faye@lemmy.world 16 minutes ago
MourningDove@lemmy.zip 1 hour ago
Lately? Were you not here during elections when a bunch of kids were accusing everyone of supporting genocide?
Jomega@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
I think it’s still like that, actually.
MourningDove@lemmy.zip 53 minutes ago
It’s actually quite a bit more tame than it once was.
zarathustra0@lemmy.world 47 minutes ago
Post quality go down. Echo chamber go up.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 hour ago
Not that I’ve noticed, but the whole world is growing more toxic as far-right ideology becomes more and more accepted everywhere, so I wouldn’t be surprised.
swelter_spark@reddthat.com 58 minutes ago
Yeah. I’ve enjoyed Lemmy casually for years, but this last year has really killed my desire to read or post here.
Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
I haven’t noticed much, but I do have a lot of people blocked…
The most important thing for me is that the amount of truly thoughtful comments I’ve seen is higher than on any other platform I use.
Vupware@lemmy.zip 3 hours ago
And discourse is generally more respectful. Disagreements are handled in a constructive manner at a much higher rate than on any other platform I have used.
Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Yeah, it’s nice to be able to have actually constructive discussions with people I don’t agree with. That’s rare on the internet.
AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
I’ve blocked a few, makes a huge difference.
DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 hours ago
The world has been deteriorating a lot in recently years and inflation is high.
dutchkimble@lemy.lol 1 hour ago
You want a piece of this??
Objection@lemmy.ml 2 hours ago
Compared to election season? Nah. But everybody sees different stuff on Lemmy.
ToiletFlushShowerScream@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
It seems like some AI bots with contrarian comments in order to drive engagement or strong arm wild political platforms have started to leak into the fediverse as a whole. Still better than other options though.
Raiderkev@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Yeah, I’ve seen a bunch of what appear to be bot accounts dropping douchey comments. They’ve been down voted to oblivion, but it sucks seeing it here.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
Got some examples?
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
Yes, it seems to be.
devolution@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Blame reddit. Lemmy is the home for us, the permabanned.
cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 20 hours ago
Check your communities, and what instances they’re on. Not all are created equal. lemmy.ml tends to be pretty wacko unless you’re of their particular ideological alignment, lemmy.world is very very large and thus has a very very large number of obnoxious shitheads compared to other instances. On the other hand, beehaw.org is intentionally and pathologically positive. I also find lemmy.ca quite friendly, though I might be biased.
Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 hours ago
Can confirm some asshole on. ml is chasing around my comments wasting both our time, isn’t that right mistermodal, you incel loser.
pilferjinx@piefed.social 19 hours ago
Lemmy users are much more entrenched ideologically than an average layman. We all have strong opinions and it can get pretty heated. I avoid posting inflammatory posturing if I’m self aware enough. But I’m just as human and fallible as the rest.
shalafi@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
And they think the real world is reflective of what we talk about here. It’s truly bizarre. I’m terminally online, unemployed ATM, but I still get there’s an outside world.
Take all the Trump voter hate for example. Do they not truly understand how under and misinformed most American’s are? Watch Mamdami interview Trump voters in NYC. Not ONE was what we picture as MAGA.
Also, since Trump 1.0, people refuse to talk politics. We’re at a party last month and talking about my new, weird, .22 rifle. I started to bring up a thing in the Big Beautiful Bill that was on-topic and the only thing I find decent in it. “NO. We’re not talking politics.” “I’m NOT. I’m talking about one thing I think is cool and will help gun owners.” Jesus. Now we gotta dance on eggshells.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Well, many of us are on the spectrum whether that be ADD, ADHD, Asperger’s, or some other form of autism. Helps us to be highly technical and computer savvy, doesn’t help so much with attempting to reframe “right and wrong,” for most of us.
Unfortunately the very entrenchment, ideologically speaking, that these particular “character traits” cause most of us to have, are being celebrated as “immunity to propaganda” in the media. The reality is that we have an innate sense of right and wrong, and that shit can get skewed all over the place in your formative years. The only remedy I have seen for this is the person intentionally exposing themselves to other cultures.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
lemmy.world is very very large and thus has a very very large number of obnoxious shitheads
Yeah? Yeah, you think so? Obnoxious? Yeah? You sayin’ there’s obnoxious shitheads round these parts? That what you’re sayin’? Just wanna be clear! Well you’re wrong! Lemmy.World isn’t large at all. The whole fediverse combined isn’t very large! Not like my penis! Can’t believe you said Lemmy.World is full of obnoxious shitheads! Why would you think that? Can I have $20? Your mom gave me $20! Heyyyoooo!!!
Jomega@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Is lemmy.ml is the second largest instance? Or at least rapidly growing? That would explain why it feels this way.
Triumph@fedia.io 19 hours ago
.ml is the instance run by the developers of the Lemmy fediiverse software, and they themselves are tankies. Do with that information what you will.
Canconda@lemmy.ca 19 hours ago
I see a lot more assholes from .world and .shtjstwrks
.ML peeps are either chill or really cringe depending on how militant they are.
devdoggy@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
.ml stands for Marxist\Lenin afaik. And the mods\admins take it very seriously.
Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
Since they were the first they used to be the biggest, however they are declining.
Quexotic@infosec.pub 16 hours ago
I wouldn’t call beehaw pathologically positive. They just seem to bee some very nice people that caught to create a community of nice people. It’s not a pathology, it’s a common understanding.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Check your communities, and what instances they’re on. Not all are created equal. lemmy.ml tends to be pretty wacko
“Hey y’all, anyone feeling hostility on Lemmy”
“Yeah, let me tell you what, fuck those fuckers over there. They fucking suck and I hope they rot.”
Like, how do you not immediately block everyone on lemmy.ca after reading this shit?
I also find lemmy.ca quite friendly,
Sure, if you ignore the assholes who pop into other communities to take a colossal shit on them.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 hours ago
Bro they just said “tends to be pretty wacko”
That’s like, really mild.
MotoAsh@piefed.social 13 hours ago
The irony of your stupidity and judgement in that post is hilarious.
mistermodal@lemmy.ml 18 hours ago
Rent free
MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 17 hours ago
If you’re following them around, that’s not living rent free in someone’s head, that’s just being weird.
The whole idea of the phrase is the one living rent free is just enjoying their life while the OTHER person obsesses about them.
If you’re the one doing the stalking, it’s the stalkee that’s living rent free in your head.
BassTurd@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
You weren’t tagged and still showed up to prove OPs point. It’s not rent free when they’re being stalked by a fucking weirdo basement dweller.
balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 7 hours ago
I’ve seen roughly the same time frame. As far as I can tell no, this is just how toxic this place is. There’s a bunch of people who continuously claim people from reddit are coming and bringing some form of toxic with them, but as often as not those people seem super toxic. There’s a huge community of Linux fanboys who circle jerk over the same exact talking points in different meme formats (the talking point being “windows 11 is spyware, Linux Just Works ad doesn’t even require a login”). There’s a huge circle jerk over whether or not Russia is bad. There’s the “liberals aren’t leftists, liberals are capitalist genocidal shitbags” circle jerk. None of these have really changed in at least the last year, it’s the same people making the same posts on the same topics.
But, it’s nice to see a news feed of interesting posts so as long as you ignore the bullshit it still seems fine.
PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
People are demonstrably worse behaving online. This will be true in just about any online community. The more people that join, the more you’ll see.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
There has been a noticeable uptick in new rightist accounts lately.
Instead of blocking people, I tag the bad actors in Voyager and have noticed that most of the toxicity comes from the same small group of specific people.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
An example right in this thread
einkorn@feddit.org 12 hours ago
I’ve recently noticed a lot of new accounts which post a whole series of news articles and then get deleted. Notot fake news or conspiracies but mostly reputable sites. No idea what’s going on there.
Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
This is actually usually the case
Jhex@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
well have you noticed (waves at everything) in the world?
janewaydidnothingwrong@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
You suck! (im sorry im just kidding)
MML@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
Well fuck you (pls)
janewaydidnothingwrong@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
🥸
MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Block and block often. Now if lemmy admins will just unspez their attitude about reciprocal blocks I can cull the herd of raging douche nozzles infesting every online community.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
I don’t know that I’ve noticed a real uptick. But in the past couple weeks I have noticed a few ridiculous right wingers and I blocked most of them since seeing their bullshit is bad for my mental health.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 8 hours ago
Yeah maga place looks like it’s up to 21 idiots sharing a brain cell now, whereas I think it was 12 a couple weeks ago. Wonder if there’s a critical mass for those fucks or if they’ll find lemmy too progressive to stick around. I guess they could just circlejerk on their own instance.
MantisToboggon@lazysoci.al 20 hours ago
Go fuck yourself!
RaoulDuke@fedia.io 18 hours ago
You kiss ya mother wit that mouf!?
MantisToboggon@lazysoci.al 18 hours ago
no I kiss yours.
BigBenis@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
It doesn’t feel unique to Lemmy to me. I’m seeing higher levels of hostility in just about any environment broad enough to include left and right wingers
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
I have been threatened and harassed in person multiple times the past few years. but left and right wingers. by trans and anti-trans folks, etc.
angry people just want to beat up any one that is in front of them.
BigBenis@lemmy.world 59 minutes ago
I’m resisting the urge to jump to conclusions, however I can’t help but observe that objectively there seems to be a common denominator in your situation. Either way, it sucks that that’s been your experience and I hope things change for the better for you.
balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 6 hours ago
So wait are you wearing both knee-highs and a maga cap?
Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
So what are you really
Dagnet@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
For sure. I posted content on selfhosted for the first time and got called a “filthy boomer” because it was a screenshot, then people basically told me to grow thicker skin went I complained. Why be better than reddit huh? Guess people just want reddit 2.0
krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 9 hours ago
“Why can’t everyone just be nice to each other all the time” is what lead us to where we are.
I’m not arguing for being an asshole but when you force everyone to be kind all the time online you get people that are empowered to and motivated to wrap up abhorrent shit in a pleasing package. Racist dog whistles, selfish political propaganda, etc.
I’m not saying that applies here but I DO think it’s important that people are allowed to be assholes online. The internet really started its descent when people started putting bubble wrap on everything.
You’re free to engage or not to.
People have become so used to echo chambers and safe spaces that they forget what things were like when they didn’t exist. And it was better.
You SHOULD be encountering assholes online and encountering opinions you disagree with regularly, because that is the real the world.
1984@lemmy.today 8 hours ago
Nice to see another person who understands this. They want their social media experience to not make them feel anything negative, and loves their bubble where everyone agrees with them.
When someone writes something they dont agree with, they go into keyboard warrior mode and either tries to put the person down with downvoting and insults, or mod reporting, which is similar to running to dad and crying about someone being bad.
Its like people refuse to grow up today. Argue for your opinion, stop censoring and pushing down opinions you dont agree with.
ski11erboi@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
I mean honestly filthy boomer to a screenshot is kind of hilarious.
Quexotic@infosec.pub 16 hours ago
Maybe they’re not telling us that the screenshot was taken with a Nokia and sent to email over their sms to email bridge?
P1nkman@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Yeah, I’m gonna stop taking screenshots and use an analogue camera to capture my screen, then run to the photo printing shop, stop by the hobby store for some tracking paper, and track the photo. Scan that bad boy, and Bob’s your uncle!
Now what would I then be called by these keyboard warriors?
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
I would actually compare it to Slashdot 3.0, but your sentiment stands.
1984@lemmy.today 8 hours ago
Yes its more negative. Comes with more users.
TangledHyphae@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Yes. I’ve also noticed if you say something mods don’t like they will remove your comments. This place is more of the same with censorship… in terms of removing opposing ideas.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
(This person who complains about “censorship” says some seriously bigoted shit. It’s not a moderation problem, it’s a MAGA problem.)
Godric@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
IndigoLarry@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
You’re really being a drag, dude. What’s with you throwing all this shade? Wanna fight about it? /s
Perspectivist@feddit.uk 15 hours ago
People are desperately combing through comments, looking for something to be outraged about. That’s what happens in echo chambers - when the outgroup isn’t around to attack, people start eating their own. It turns into this insane purity spiral where nobody is ever good enough.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
yeah i’ve noticed this. the people who harass me go to my comment history, start downvoting everything i say or replying to old comments and/or reporting them… just like people do on reddit.
one disagreement on one comment or issue becomes a personal vendetta
Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
These people need to be flushed out of here. On the other hand I stand by almost everything I’ve said in my comment history, so…
taiyang@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Hmm… maybe. The state of the world has been pretty awful for the past year so I imagine that plays a part. Aside from trolls, lots of us are on edge as the whole world seems to tilt right with propaganda and AI.
That said, I like us.
I browse bluesky too and find I actually prefer Lemmy because it’s a bit more self-policing… Like regarding AI slop, bluesky is fucking rampant with it, like Trump dressed as a clown or Newsom with abs, it’s fucking awful. Lemmy has a couple communities for AI but on average, you try that shit and you’ll get publicly shamed. That could be considered mean, but I appreciate it (especially if it’s AI I can’t even tell).
Embargo@lemmy.zip 19 hours ago
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
workerONE@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Are you aware that there are people in this world that have a severe medical condition which causes them to be that way? My mother for instance is one of those people. She is a truck driver that has bad knees and a bad back from driving the truck but you probably do not care about that case either. Oh well I am not one of those people I am 6’4" 245lbs and I exercise every day. I would love to see you say something like to my mother in front of me. Probably never happen though you are probably just an internet tough guy. I doubt very seriously you would say that to someones face. Just my thought.What do you think. Oh I am sorry you probably do not have a brain. I on the other hand will be happy to buy you a plane ticket to come here and see if you have the nerve to say that to someone I know.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
What the fuck did you just say about the God Emperor of Mankind, you little heretic? I´ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Space Marines, and I´ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Chaos, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in Plasma Warfare and I´m the top Inquistor in the entire Imperium. You are nothing to me, but just another Xeno scum. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of wich has never been seen before on Terra, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that heretic rambling to me? Think again, fucker. As we speak,I am contacting my secret network of Vindicare Assasins across the Emperium, and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You´re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that´s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in CQC, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Imperium of Man, and I will use it to it´s full extent to wipe your miserable ass of the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have know what unholy retribuition you little ‘‘clever’’ heresy was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn ´t, you didn´t, and now you´re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you, and you will drown in it. You´re fucking dead, heretic. Extermanatus upon your hive world.
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 hours ago
Not really. But I purposely avoid any politics related community.
Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio 8 hours ago
It makes no difference. The single minded fuckwits will inject politics into a thread about cheese sandwiches.
balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 6 hours ago
Cheese sandwiches are a tool of capitalist oppression. They are a symbol of how the working class is unable to get the nutrition they need and is yet another attempt by the liberals to make you forget their support of genocide. Eating cheese sandwiches supports genocide.
Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
I would like to note that although correct this comment is itself a bit rude
TangledHyphae@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
This is the issue I’ve seen everywhere. Military grade TDS. Even if you want to chat about your love for onions in an onion-based community, someone will probably talk about how orange man destroyed onion farmland and is a fascist. I don’t think there’s a way to avoid the constant repetitive rage seeping into everything.
Jhex@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
how?, please teach me your secret
groet@feddit.org 20 minutes ago
I also noticed how every post just has 5-10 random down votes. Like perfectly fine post in the correct community, not controversial, no rules broken, -10 down votes.
Leax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 minutes ago
Tempting to downvote that post, not gonna lie