I came here around the time the rif app shut down, and the general vibe I get from this place is much more negative than when I joined. Is Lemmy growing more toxic or is it just my imagination?
No, fuck you
/j
Does anyone else notice an up tick in hostility on Lemmy lately?
Submitted 6 months ago by Jomega@lemmy.world to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world
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cley_faye@lemmy.world 6 months ago
plyth@feddit.org 6 months ago
Posting that question here, in a subreddit that says no stupid questions! How dense can you be? OP is a cunt.
Psythik@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Jarcasm?
cley_faye@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It was just a soke ;)
groet@feddit.org 6 months ago
I also noticed how every post just has 5-10 random down votes. Like perfectly fine post in the correct community, not controversial, no rules broken, -10 down votes.
Drusas@fedia.io 6 months ago
People here do tend to downvote for disagreeing with any little part of something that was said.
1984@lemmy.today 6 months ago
Little snowflakes.
Leax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Tempting to downvote that post, not gonna lie
zarathustra0@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Post quality go down. Echo chamber go up.
swelter_spark@reddthat.com 6 months ago
Yeah. I’ve enjoyed Lemmy casually for years, but this last year has really killed my desire to read or post here.
Bongles@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
For me it’s everywhere. I still come to these things out of habit or because i don’t have energy for a regular hobby, but it’s getting draining. All of social media just brings me back to politics, even if funny memes are in between. I also have a habit of reading comments, and then some dingus brings the one non political thing back down to politics anyway.
1984@lemmy.today 6 months ago
Because social media is used to program you. What to think, what opinions to have. So thats why you see politics and fighting, its all about influencing populations. And where do you influence the youngest? Right here on social media.
MourningDove@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Lately? Were you not here during elections when a bunch of kids were accusing everyone of supporting genocide?
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Were you not here for that same year when anyone who said that democrats shouldn’t be supporting genocide was accused of being a russian chinese trumper republican tankie bot? Oh, and as you accused in your comment just now, a child.
democrats still have no business supporting genocide. It’s shameful and there needs to be accountability. None is forthcoming.
MourningDove@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
As you can all see, some of them are still around.
kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
“Republicans are fascist”
“I know. That’s why I’m voting Democrat.”
“Democrats aren’t real leftists”
“I’m aware but this isn’t the time for purity politics.”
“Democrats support genocide.”
“And Republicans don’t?”
“Both sides are equally bad so voting is dumb. Don’t vote.”
“Listen, I’ve got friends and family with skin in this game. Both parties fucking suck but you know what really sucks? Having a fucking fascist dimwit who thinks your cousin is subhuman because she was assigned male at birth as your president.”
“So you support genocide? Typical libshit.”
“Ok, then what is your alternative?”
“You would know what it is if you read this dry, arcane horse shit about the reification of contemporary autonomous groups in Third World popular movements.”
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 6 months ago
puchaczyk@lemmy.world 6 months ago
MourningDove@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Nailed it! That’s damn near a perfect representation of ever conversation with them.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 6 months ago
They still are but I’ve learned to love the block list and use it judiciously with people who go beyond good faith arguments of any sort.
MourningDove@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
That’s most of the people here in political conversations.
Jomega@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I think it’s still like that, actually.
MourningDove@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
It’s actually quite a bit more tame than it once was.
dutchkimble@lemy.lol 6 months ago
You want a piece of this??
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Not that I’ve noticed, but the whole world is growing more toxic as far-right ideology becomes more and more accepted everywhere, so I wouldn’t be surprised.
Objection@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
Compared to election season? Nah. But everybody sees different stuff on Lemmy.
MehBlah@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Block and block often. Now if lemmy admins will just unspez their attitude about reciprocal blocks I can cull the herd of raging douche nozzles infesting every online community.
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Damn I miss rif :/ that was when I came over here too. I’m not on here as much but everywhere there seems to be an uptick in hostility these days
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Yes, it seems to be.
DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
The world has been deteriorating a lot in recently years and inflation is high.
devolution@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Blame reddit. Lemmy is the home for us, the permabanned.
ToiletFlushShowerScream@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It seems like some AI bots with contrarian comments in order to drive engagement or strong arm wild political platforms have started to leak into the fediverse as a whole. Still better than other options though.
Raiderkev@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yeah, I’ve seen a bunch of what appear to be bot accounts dropping douchey comments. They’ve been down voted to oblivion, but it sucks seeing it here.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Got some examples?
lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 6 months ago
It comes & goes in waves. Do you not like ridiculing their impotent outrage?
janewaydidnothingwrong@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You suck! (im sorry im just kidding)
MML@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Well fuck you (pls)
janewaydidnothingwrong@lemmy.world 6 months ago
🥸
Feathercrown@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I haven’t noticed much, but I do have a lot of people blocked…
The most important thing for me is that the amount of truly thoughtful comments I’ve seen is higher than on any other platform I use.
AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’ve blocked a few, makes a huge difference.
Vupware@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
And discourse is generally more respectful. Disagreements are handled in a constructive manner at a much higher rate than on any other platform I have used.
Feathercrown@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yeah, it’s nice to be able to have actually constructive discussions with people I don’t agree with. That’s rare on the internet.
TangledHyphae@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yes. I’ve also noticed if you say something mods don’t like they will remove your comments. This place is more of the same with censorship… in terms of removing opposing ideas.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
(This person who complains about “censorship” says some seriously bigoted shit. It’s not a moderation problem, it’s a MAGA problem.)
Godric@lemmy.world 6 months ago
IndigoLarry@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You’re really being a drag, dude. What’s with you throwing all this shade? Wanna fight about it? /s
Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I doubt that anyone who came from reddit either as an exile or willingly can really notice any additional toxicity. Maybe the early adapters.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
I considered making a really insulting comment on this just for fun, but I just can’t be arsed.
Jomega@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I appreciate the honesty.
balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 6 months ago
I’ve seen roughly the same time frame. As far as I can tell no, this is just how toxic this place is. There’s a bunch of people who continuously claim people from reddit are coming and bringing some form of toxic with them, but as often as not those people seem super toxic. There’s a huge community of Linux fanboys who circle jerk over the same exact talking points in different meme formats (the talking point being “windows 11 is spyware, Linux Just Works ad doesn’t even require a login”). There’s a huge circle jerk over whether or not Russia is bad. There’s the “liberals aren’t leftists, liberals are capitalist genocidal shitbags” circle jerk. None of these have really changed in at least the last year, it’s the same people making the same posts on the same topics.
But, it’s nice to see a news feed of interesting posts so as long as you ignore the bullshit it still seems fine.
starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Idk some of the worst comments I have ever seen are from .world users, maybe not super toxic but definitely redditor type responses. Maybe that’s just because .world is the most popular instance that I see it when I check a bad comment though ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Either .world or .ml
Both are basically the two largest sources of toxic people.
PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 6 months ago
People are demonstrably worse behaving online. This will be true in just about any online community. The more people that join, the more you’ll see.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I haven’t noticed anything in particular, and I do post in more controversial areas like Politics and News. There’s always a chance to get negative feedback in those c/.
I have noticed some ancient-ass reddit-type reposts of the same old shit that circulates reddit, though. That junk can die.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
It seems that out in the real world and here in the digital world we have been allowed/engineered to lose our civility and respect. Reminds me of the rock orchestra DEVO.
balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 6 months ago
Civility as a desirable trait seems so bizarre to me. Historically it’s been used as a tool of oppression. In fact, it still is (remember those portions of Tennessee who lost their representatives due to “decorum” “violations”?)
Beebabe@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Replies have certainly taken on a more Reddit-like quality to some things. Like rude for the sake of being rude.
Feathercrown@lemmy.world 6 months ago
[insert funny rude response here]
Jhex@lemmy.world 6 months ago
well have you noticed (waves at everything) in the world?
ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
The hostility has been here for quite a while, though. When the migrating happened from Reddit to Lemmy it was all nice and cozy but after a year or so the hostility was already there. Very often people did not want to acknowledge this (and started to heavily downvote the particular comment stating this). Plus with what is happeneing in the world, the negativity from reality seeps into the digital world.
But anyway, the best thing to do is just block anyone who is hostile towards you for no actual reason. Has no point to put energy and/ or time in it.
1984@lemmy.today 6 months ago
Yes its more negative. Comes with more users.
BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Yes, blocking posts from .ml and dbzer0 helped. Same goes for just liberally blocking anybody, who starts screaming instead of participating nicely.
I’ve been considering blocking .world, as some of the mods are behaving like power tripping reddit mods. But it’s the biggest instance and without it I wouldn’t have any content.
oftenawake@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Oh shit I’m on dbzer0 - just seemed like a good geeky instance. Is it a problematic one? Thx!
BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I don’t block users by instance, just posts. Posts on your instance tends to get moderated heavily one-sided. I got reprimanded (I think it was a temp ban, but I can’t remember) for being skeptical about AI. I don’t want to spend time and energy engaging in a discussion under those conditions.
But that doesn’t mean every dbzer0 user is an AIvangelist. Same goes for .ml, they’re not all tankies … although I’ve found that not engaging with .ml users tends to give me a more pleasant experience in general.
Valmond@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I have heard it several times, but it has also been debunked. I’d stay there if your only reasons are some vague rumours. I mean there are shitheads on any server.
nickiwest@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’m still here at .world because every time I think I’ve identified a better instance to go to where people seem to like it, I see someone else who recommends blocking it.
I definitely see the appeal of (and need for) blocking individuals, but I think that instances are too big and varied to neatly paint everyone with the same brush.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Would still be using .world but they don’t allow VPNs. So fuck .world