save the planet 🌎

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• Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  okay so like, do you people posting this stuff actually think about it for even a second? or do you just not realize that physical plastic material ending up on the ground is a different thing than air pollution?

  yoyu can’t compare the two, they’re completely different things, even if everyone stopped using fossil fuels it would still be exactly as bad to use plastic straws.

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• beejboytyson@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Ah Blane we meet again

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  • shads@lemy.lol ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Blaine is a pain and that is the truth.

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• barnaclebutt@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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  • Allero@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Test successful!

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    • barnaclebutt@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Thanks buddy.

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• carlossurf@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Fuck the billionaires that do that, but that doesn’t mean that me using a straw isnt still making the shit worse. At least I can sleep at night knowing I am not making the situation worse, and I will still try to vote for politicians that are fighting against the billionaires

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  • Snowclone@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s replacing real action in place of a good feeling. It’s THE plan to not do anything effective.

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  • survirtual@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The straw you use does nothing but make you feel better, which I would argue is harmful. You shouldn’t feel better for doing nothing when such large problems exist.

    Your use of the right straw is akin to you killing a single invasive ant in a rain forest, and saying you did your part to remove the invasive colony. You then spend every opportunity talking about how you killed that single ant, all while the ants have already multiplied and utterly nullified your non-effort contribution.

    Shipping barges, data centers, gas and coal burning are all many orders of magnitudes greater problems than what straw you use. In addition, these are all growing in use. Talk about that. Put your attention and action towards that. Not even meat consumption compares to it, yet most talking is about how we should all suffer and do our part, with no talk about solving the real and growing problem.

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  • TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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    • mad_lentil@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Agree with this take. It’s like yeah electric cars are technically better, but any advantage they have over combustion engines is blown away by things like public transportation, or designing walkable/cyclable cities.

      Our solutions can’t just rely on swapping out for “greener” tech. We need radical changes to how we are currently living in order to ensure a livable future.

      There is no future that is not radical. This gradualist, neolib (let’s make sure all the investors get a chance to divest from dirty tech before switching!) fantasy will fuck us. It’s been fucking us for a hundred years. It’s time to try literally anything else.

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  • uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The non mushy straws aren’t terrible, but all rubberized tires are, whether on cars or bikes. The car ones are much worse.

    And air travel is even worse still

    But not close to industrial pollution which is exponentially greater.

    The billionaires could care more and put some R&D into it. They just dont.

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• PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  if we reduced wealth inequality to the point noone could afford that kind of shit i bet we could ride the plastic straw wave for a few centuries before it really came back to bite us.

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• surph_ninja@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  We need the international court to set hard caps that will result in prison time.

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  • Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    International? We need the Intergalactic Court!

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• Krudler@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Always remember that coke and pepsi do not use recycled plastic in their coke or pepsi packaging, yet they are outwardly huge proponents of recycling the waste they create

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  • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    huh? PET bottles are like, the single most recycled thing after asphalt, i think

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  • saigot@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I despise how sprite changed to clear bottles claiming environmental reasons, when that reason was that they wanted to be less indentifiable in trash heaps and microplastic samples.

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  • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They’re not doing it out of spite, most plastics can’t be recycled, not the way aluminum can (ha).

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  • Noodle07@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Me switching to European cans of cola :3

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• CircaV@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Oh totally. billionaires carbon footprint is many orders of magnitude larger than multiple lifetimes and generations of us normies. Abolish billionaires. Redistribute that wealth. The environmental future we want - NOW.

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  • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And yet, there aren’t very many of them but there are billions of us.

    Even if their lifestyles result in 1000x as much pollution, they only represent 0.00004% of the worldwide population, which is not enough to move the needle.

    To put that in perspective, metro Tokyo has a population of approximately 38 million. If the fraction of billionaires in Tokyo matches the global ratio, there would be about 15 billionaires in Tokyo. Anything 15 people do in Tokyo will be just noise compared to what the other 37,999,985 people do.

    Let’s just pretend that all 3000 of the world’s billionaires lived in the USA. They’d still only make up 0.001% of the entire US population. Even if they were flying around in personal jets, being followed by Airbus Beluga jets carrying their yachts, it would still pale in comparison to the sheer number of people currently suffering in economy class right now.

    live air traffic showing the thousands of planes currently in the air over the US

    I still think billionaires should be squashed by a hydraulic press, but I’m not kidding myself into thinking that doing that will have any impact on the environment at all. I support it more because they’re greedy assholes who are taking far more than their share, and who are using their immense wealth to distort the well functioning governing of the world.

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• nuggie_ss@lemmings.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m curious as to why you’re using a straw at all.

  is it that because you’re at a restaurant?

  You should know that by giving most restaurants your patronage, you are contributing to a lifestyle that we all cannot participate in.

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  • blackn1ght@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What does this even mean?

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    • Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It means that anyone who does anything totally sucks.

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• betanumerus@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The billionaires aren’t the ones teaching you about how the planet works. In fact how rich as person is has nothing to do with it.

  If you want to understand how the planet works, learn it from planet experts.

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  • robocall@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But they got those cruise ship private jets and that’s bad

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    • Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I guess they didn’t see the photo

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  • SpookyLights@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ok I’m genuinely curious, what are you talking about? Where did you get “teaching how the planet works?”

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• HugeNerd@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Look, if living in a densified treeless hellscape of concrete towers that all look the same, filled with 350 sq. ft. windowless suites furnished with sawdust furniture, that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make for the ruling class to continue living well.

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  • robocall@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This fat cat gets 350 sq ft!!

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    • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Sure but it’s a 5 foot ceiling. Like Alfred Jarry.

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    • Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Oh no. The Fats will be rounded up and rendered for cruise ship airplane fuel.

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• lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That’s why the billionaires have decided to hoard all the wealth among a smaller and smaller proportion of the population. They’re trying to save the planet! When 10 people have everything and the rest are all dead - boom, planet saved.

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  • TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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    • lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I get what you’re saying and it is probably true from a macro standpoint, but don’t be too hasty to minimize the role of malevolence. If a rich person were so inclined, they could read the same articles and books as me and conclude that systemic problems are already pervasive and still growing. They could then withdraw their support for politicians like Trump (or even most democrats, to be fair) who do anything and everything to amplify those problems for the simple reason that rich people stand to gain from them. I am so furious with people like Thiel because i think they DO know what they’re doing, but they care more about the gains than the people they hurt.

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  • robocall@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But who will clean the cruise ship jets for them?!

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    • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Out of Elon’s 35 or so kids, some will have been Bokanovskied into Epsilon Pluses, just enough to push a broom.

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    • ebolapie@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Robots, probably. ChatGPT will figure it out, probably.

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• devolution@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Not big enough. Fail.

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• But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They tricked us into taking all the blame for climate change, so we’re busting our ass off to reduce and they don’t even pretend to care. In truth we could do more for the environment with guillotines than paper straws

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They tricked us into taking all the blame for climate change

    They tricked us into believing metric fucktons of single use plastics would keep us safe and healthy.

    But we never had any direct control over climate policy, because we never had any direct control over the capital itself.

    All we could do was blame ourselves.

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    • TeddE@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Did they?

      I can’t recall anyone ever being anything but nonplussed and skeptical about paper straws. From what I can tell, it was a product of a think tank that pushed into the news, which then caused businesses to treat that as though it were public demand and pushed it out to everyone, and most people shrugged, used the obviously inferior product (because it was free and the alternatives require attention), and then people got on with their day.

      On the wider scale this was pitched as ‘the only thing you can personally do to combat climate change’ - but I suspect it is the literal strawman of a figurative progressive position, purposely pushing a manufactured defective solution as a means to distract and suppress more substantive change and organization thereof.

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• WereCat@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  When you need to ship a cargo

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  • Bgugi@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No cargo. Planego. Shipgo. Only peasants cargo.

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• ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I never had any issues with paper straws. Is it a skill issue?

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  • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    my sneaking suspicion is that a lot of people are getting fast food in their car, they put the soda in the cup holder and put the straw in right away, and slowly sip on it for like a full hour and by the end of that it’s obviously going to become part of the drink…

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  • abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    When people first started using them there were some that were pretty rough. Like flop over the side of your cup levels of structural failure.

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  • tempest@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Same.

    The people I’ve noticed complain seem to buy giant drinks and let them sit around for a while.

    Never been a fan of flat warm soft drinks myself.

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  • Sybilvane@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’ve definitely noticed paper straws come in different qualities, and are affected differently depending on what you’re drinking. But the ones that turn mushy were largely phased out of use because I’m sure a lot of people complained. I haven’t had a mushy straw in years.

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• debil@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Be the change you want to see in the world.

  throws a Molotov at the next flying cruiser

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  • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    BORTLES!

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  • Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Bruh if you souch as spit on said cruiser you’ll be wanted by the police for terrorism

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• altphoto@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Those ships are powered by baby chickens.

  First they load up the tanks full of baby chickens. The chicks travel into a conveyor belt where a long row of old women pick up the chicks to if they are male or female. The females are grown to make more eggs. The males are tossed into the intake. The males are then mixed with air and tar and then injected into the piston at high pressure. Once top dead center is reached, a spark drivers the pressures to hundreds of PSI and as much as 800 C. The chicks have been known to survive up to that moment.

  If they can perfect chick injection they will try more compact fuels like puppies, crocks, whales, baby elephants, the homeless and or orphans. They might end up stuck with birds so they might try just eagles. There are enough of each eagle to push the boats a good two or three miles!

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  • MadPsyentist@lemmy.nz ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Someone has just watched Baraka! Good choice of movie my friend!

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  • robocall@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    you must have some really good weed

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    • random_character_a@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We are jealous.

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• stupidcasey@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I gotta be honest, I would personally insert a straw into the nose of every baby seal on earth for a flying cruise ship.

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  • jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t know, there’s a lot of baby seals

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    • stupidcasey@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Not with the pollution this thing makes there is not.

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  • sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s sad as hell tbh

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    • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Baby seals know what they’ve done

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• HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Metal straws are nice

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  • i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I love my metal straws. Great for smoothies and milkshakes. They don’t collapse!

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• starkzarn@infosec.pub ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The irony of using AI to make this image…

  Humanity really is a lost cause

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• SoloCritical@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Nobody:

  Larry Ellison: Buys an entire 90,000 acre Hawaiian Island just because

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• primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  While this scum is allowed allocate all of the world’s resources; every drop of water you conserve goes to their data centers and pleasure fleets.

  There is no conservation until they’re gone. It simply cannot be done.

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