Didn’t we used to hide it?
Who the fuck needs an x axis anyway
Submitted 6 months ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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REDACTED@infosec.pub 6 months ago
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 6 months ago
That’s the era they want to drag us back into, even if it costs us suicide and/or substance abuse.
Adalast@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yes. This is an artifact of a destigmatization coupled with better diagnostics for evaluating ASD. More people aren’t autistic, more people are being diagnosed and receiving counseling for coping with the neurldivergence in a cold and uncaring neurotypical world.
MissJinx@lemmy.world 6 months ago
maybe that’s why they were elected lol
/s
devolution@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Assuming the data is true (doubt it because of fucking beef jerky man), it’s not so much that autism is on the rise so much that autism rates are being diagnosed more and autism is less stigmatized than it was previously.
TheOgreChef@lemmy.world 6 months ago
If I remember correctly, it fits the same overall curve of the number of reported left handed people over time after society stopped forcibly making people use their right hand. Shockingly, actually making an attempt at diagnosing people and tracking those diagnoses makes numbers go up.
Aneb@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Imagine the sexist fascist racist homophobe convicted Cheeto puff is also ablest, please keep adding adjectives that describe the 47th president of the Confederated States
Professorozone@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Well the cure is clearly to stop testing.
Agent641@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Instances of autism have skyrocketed since the discovery of autism and effective testing for it.
Clearly these tests are causing the autism. It’s a conspiracy by Big Autist to make the world a quieter and more curious place. The railway companies are in on it too.
Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Autism tests cause autism, got it, let’s roll boys, we have more science to ban
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I think you just predicted the next South Park plot.
notarobot@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Evotech@lemmy.world 6 months ago
echodot@feddit.uk 6 months ago
That line of best fit doesn’t even match the data. How can it start above the data and then finish above the data but still be line of best fit. Not that that’s the only problem with this graph of course.
CompassRed@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
I think it’s just a trendline, not a line of best fit.
bhamlin@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Sorry, it’s actually a “best fits our narrative” line. I can see how you might have been confused.
BilboBargains@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Who’s gonna make all the technology, music, art, etc, after we’ve finally cured autism? We might have to start re-autisming people.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
OK there are not 2 bars per year. 2nd last is 2020, last 2022.
It’s not clear why everyone is mad at the chart. It does show an increase. Though, this is about autism diagnoseses, which can be influenced by kickback bribes for diagnoseses.
There is a sharper (exponential) increase since 2012, even though pharma corruption solutions existed many years before then, afaik. Some explanation for the acceleration is needed. Its not tylenol or any new vaccines.
davidagain@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Er, did you look at all the dates on the x axis? Because that shit makes no sense whatsoever.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
It took me a while to understand the graph too. All of the information needed is included in OP image. Posting what may be Trump/RFK propaganda that may or not be based on lies and non data, just to attack it for not being the absolute clearest graph is posting Trump propaganda. Graph would be clearer if they omitted birth years. OK.
Posting this is still equivalent to “sun goes up sun goes down. ain’t nobody understand that” manipulation that reinforces people’s lack of understanding to trust the speaker on anything and everything.
davidagain@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Er, did you look at all the dates on the x axis? Because that shit makes no sense whatsoever.
echodot@feddit.uk 6 months ago
Autism diagnosis is can also be increased by just better recognition of the disease. You think anyone was going around giving out autism diagnosis in the 90s come on.
An increase in diagnosis rates does not indicate an underlying increase in the condition.
pyr0ball@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
My diagnosis is in that spike. I got diagnosed late because it took that long to get away from my autism denying parent and enough time living on my own to start wondering about my “weird habits”, especially after starting to meet others “like me”.
It stopped being a disability in my mind and started being more like a superpower, and eventually out was just who I was and y’all can just deal with it. Of course I leaned boundaries and social graces because we live in a society, but how I view myself and other people definitely changed
So I think it has a lot to do with how this generation and previous ones changed how they handle autism.
xia@lemmy.sdf.org 6 months ago
For some reason, that doesn’t look like a GPT-generated graph, which means… sadly… that someone had to make that thing… and somebody had to approve it.
echodot@feddit.uk 6 months ago
What do you bet it’s not even based on real data and it’s just some random rectangles that they drew.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 6 months ago
They also could have just grabbed any graph off of google images and relabeled it. That was a apparently a popular shortcut in corporations when someone had to present to their bosses.
Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
Dude…
ThermonuclearCactus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
In other news, visibility bias has been classified as communist propaganda. Anyone who says this isn’t representative of an actual increase in the incidence rate is a communist and can safely be ignored.
betanumerus@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Will this administration release data on diseases caused by fossil emissions? Like asthma?
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Oh, they will. But reliable data?
Be careful what you wish for, lol.
Mordred_85@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Also heath waves death tolls
beefpig@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Treczoks@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Autism diagnosis rates. Quite a difference.
Uruanna@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Remember Covid, don’t report on things = they stop existing.
skozzii@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Well get out of here with your logic and reason…
Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Diagnosis has improved and perhaps been used too soon in some cases. Its always been here but environmental changes of some kind have increased it slightly. Most likely medical culprit is NSAIDs. Not trumps scapegoat of the moment. The other brand was however shown to cause people to lose empathy with sustained use in some studies.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 6 months ago
Not autism rates, detection rates is what’s up, more kids are growing up with adequate helps and therapies so they can grow to be functional adults.
beejboytyson@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Too add to that there are more types of autism. It’s a spectrum.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 6 months ago
Yes, trains autism, boats autism, Math autism… /j
No but for real, no two autistic individuals are ever the same.
JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 6 months ago
Adequate helps and terapies - repression and psychological abuse. Great. We are functional adults. Fuck you.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 6 months ago
Uuuhhhhhh, I’m an autistic adult who can somehow function because I had heaps of help growing up, many of my friends weren’t that lucky and have a hard time just existing.
hunnybubny@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
It is the same story as gay infecting children’s minds.
They are selling awareness as something to be afraid of. Which is yet another layer od evil.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 6 months ago
Not only that, but they wish really hard for us to be their tiny little scapegoats, when probably most of the autistic community hates them.
kazerniel@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The axis makes sense with the label, they just didn’t label every data point.
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Guarantee you the people afraid of autism has no idea what it even is, other than “bad”
ameancow@lemmy.world 6 months ago
There’s a vast number of conservative parents who have said they would support abortion in cases of fetal abnormalities like “autism” because they’re not pro-life or informed about anything, they’re just scared. They’re scared of hardships, they’re scared of emotional labor, they’re scared of the social stigmas around having to care for someone with special needs, they’re scared they won’t love a child who isn’t normal, and will be judged for it.
echodot@feddit.uk 6 months ago
It’s not possible to diagnose an autism until the age of about four or five at the earliest so I’m not sure how they’re planning to do that
rirus@feddit.org 6 months ago
What’s wrong with the x-Axis?
atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I think it’s birth cohorts
echodot@feddit.uk 6 months ago
I think it’s just the number of diagnoses made in that particular year. But it doesn’t matter because we know this graph is made up anyway. It’s a Trump administration putting it out, I bet not one of them knows how to get excel to output a bar chart, so instead it’s just random rectangles they’ve drawn.
shneancy@lemmy.world 6 months ago
if you look at it for 1s it looks scary. if you look at it for 2s it doesn’t make any fucking sense like, at all
vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Main problem is that its not really an axis at all.
OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Maybe what’s important is the axis we made along the way
ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
10 out of a 1000 to 30ish out of a 1000 doesn’t even seem like a massive increase, especially if it’s really due to something like a pain medication that is taken by a huge population. Which it’s not as it’s more related to improvements in diagnosing.
I guess they are just hoping people see bar go up and therefore bad.
militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 6 months ago
- Autism is a spectrum., same as gender ideology. Whether you like it or not, it’s true.
- We’re better at diagnosis
- Preconceived notions about such things aren’t as prevalent, until recently for political reasons
ameancow@lemmy.world 6 months ago
spectrum
Our species broadly doesn’t think in terms of spectrums or nuance.
I burned years of my life trying to make arguments from reason and explain how there can be simultaneous truths or that issues are not black-and-white.
But people’s minds largely do not work that way. We all HAVE to digest this and mourn it and let it pass through us so we can stop trying to argue with these blockheads in ways they can’t even grasp. We can change them if we tell them stories about feelings, if we make them feel validated or heard, we can change them with careful, patient one-on-one care like a parent telling a child bedtime stories… but this takes a level of energy, empathy and patience that few of us have. Some do, I give massive respect to those who have dedicated their lives to this kind of outreach. I wish we had more.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 6 months ago
This is precisely what ‘leader scientists’ did when folks in power plopped them before crowds and radio and TV and such for a long time.
…It kinda worked.
But we’re in the algorithmic attention era now. We are past that era.
Monzcarro@feddit.uk 6 months ago
I’m a woman in my 40s who is probably autistic, but back then I was the wrong demographic and “too well behaved” to even consider diagnosis. I’m a typical example people think of when thinking about under diagnosis.
On the other hand, I work with people who have severe learning disabilities who also evaded diagnosis, or were diagnosed well into adulthood as diagnosis is difficult in someone so impaired. In another time, they would have been labelled with a grossly offensive term and just left. Better treatment of disabled people is probably another reason we see rising rates of diagnosis.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 6 months ago
They’re basically banking on people still thinking, autism is “intellectual disability, but quirkier and more difficult”, while I have met “more severe” cases who did not had the ID part, they just were lucky to avoid the diagnosis for long, and thus people didn’t pretend they’re “too dumb to even learn to count to 10”.
Twipped@l.twipped.social 6 months ago
ameancow@lemmy.world 6 months ago
If they could read or do comparisonal analysis or could formulate higher-functional abstraction in their frontal lobes, this would really make them think.
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
you know, everest was still there before it was discovered.
Chakravanti@monero.town 6 months ago
Everest wasn’t murdered before it was 5 years old.
axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 6 months ago
Can anyone decipher the graph for me?
kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
The line went up which usually good. The very best. We have the best lines in this great country. But Bobby said this isn’t a good line so I said, I told them, we need to find out why the line is bad. And I’ve got people on it who say don’t take Tylenol. So that’s all that needs to be said. Don’t. Take. Tylenol.
Pandantic@midwest.social 6 months ago
It looks nepotism put a failson in charge of this graph.
Sergio@piefed.social 6 months ago
This graph will live forever, in intro classes, as an example of how not to do things.
iAvicenna@lemmy.world 6 months ago
prevalence of cancer has increased ∞% since 0 BC
guy@piefed.social 6 months ago
In my country there has been a huge increase in both ADHD and autism diagnoses the last decades. At the same time in those years the methods to discover both diagnoses have improved greatly.
But you know, correlation does not equal causation..Kaliax@lemmy.sdf.org 6 months ago
Population size has also experienced dramatic growth… ffs.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 6 months ago
I remember when my mum was filling out a form as part of the autism assessment, she was like “sounds a lot like my husband as well… And his dad”
F_State@midwest.social 6 months ago
I’m convinced my mom is on the spectrum and my grandparents