Will this administration release data on diseases caused by fossil emissions? Like asthma?
Who the fuck needs an x axis anyway
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betanumerus@lemmy.ca 1 hour ago
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 3 hours ago
Not autism rates, detection rates is what’s up, more kids are growing up with adequate helps and therapies so they can grow to be functional adults.
beejboytyson@lemmy.world 9 minutes ago
Too add to that there are more types of autism. It’s a spectrum.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 5 minutes ago
Yes, trains autism, boats autism, Math autism… /j
No but for real, no two autistic individuals are ever the same.
hunnybubny@discuss.tchncs.de 1 hour ago
It is the same story as gay infecting children’s minds.
They are selling awareness as something to be afraid of. Which is yet another layer od evil.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 2 minutes ago
Not only that, but they wish really hard for us to be their tiny little scapegoats, when probably most of the autistic community hates them.
JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 56 minutes ago
Adequate helps and terapies - repression and psychological abuse. Great. We are functional adults. Fuck you.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 3 minutes ago
Uuuhhhhhh, I’m an autistic adult who can somehow function because I had heaps of help growing up, many of my friends weren’t that lucky and have a hard time just existing.
Twipped@l.twipped.social 9 hours ago
amotio@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
The source is “I made it the fuck up!”
Also ignoring improvements in diagnostics.
princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 hours ago
I mean, it says the source right there, it’s the CDC…
themeatbridge@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
The organization run by a brain worm driving a human suit?
Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Yeah, after deleting any data the CDC used to have that they didn’t agree with. And making up any new data they need to make their preconceived notion as perceivably supported as possible.
FerretyFever0@fedia.io 21 hours ago
Yes, which happened to be the body that made it the fuck up.
Flaqueman@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
Number of unvaxxed kids also growing in the past 22 years. I think it proves that autism is caused by lack of vaccine.
militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
- Autism is a spectrum., same as gender ideology. Whether you like it or not, it’s true.
- We’re better at diagnosis
- Preconceived notions about such things aren’t as prevalent, until recently for political reasons
Monzcarro@feddit.uk 5 hours ago
I’m a woman in my 40s who is probably autistic, but back then I was the wrong demographic and “too well behaved” to even consider diagnosis. I’m a typical example people think of when thinking about under diagnosis.
On the other hand, I work with people who have severe learning disabilities who also evaded diagnosis, or were diagnosed well into adulthood as diagnosis is difficult in someone so impaired. In another time, they would have been labelled with a grossly offensive term and just left. Better treatment of disabled people is probably another reason we see rising rates of diagnosis.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
They’re basically banking on people still thinking, autism is “intellectual disability, but quirkier and more difficult”, while I have met “more severe” cases who did not had the ID part, they just were lucky to avoid the diagnosis for long, and thus people didn’t pretend they’re “too dumb to even learn to count to 10”.
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 hours ago
you know, everest was still there before it was discovered.
Chakravanti@monero.town 9 hours ago
Everest wasn’t murdered before it was 5 years old.
Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Diagnosis has improved and perhaps been used too soon in some cases. Its always been here but environmental changes of some kind have increased it slightly. Most likely medical culprit is NSAIDs. Not trumps scapegoat of the moment. The other brand was however shown to cause people to lose empathy with sustained use in some studies.
kazerniel@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
The axis makes sense with the label, they just didn’t label every data point.
guy@piefed.social 17 hours ago
In my country there has been a huge increase in both ADHD and autism diagnoses the last decades. At the same time in those years the methods to discover both diagnoses have improved greatly.
But you know, correlation does not equal causation..slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 16 hours ago
30 years ago my teacher suspected i am on som sort of spectrum and had to get tested. I remember going to some doctor and i had to clap really fast and look into a light. Believe it of not i was not diagnosed with ADHD, because i’m a really good clapper
guy@piefed.social 16 hours ago
Damn! You should get vaccinated for whatever and try again. Better luck next time?
manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 13 hours ago
Mandating helmets for the boys at the front is resulting in many more head injuries!
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 hours ago
Yeah, this is like saying “skin cancer rates have increased dramatically in the past 30 years!” Well yeah, because now we have the technology to detect it earlier. That “things increased” stat ignores the complementary “but deaths decreased dramatically” stat that immediately follows it. Before, we didn’t know people had skin cancer until it was killing them. But now, with preventative screenings, public awareness campaigns, etc, people are more likely to get checked before it is a life threatening issue.
It’s the same thing. Detection models got better, so detection rates went up.
SuiXi3D@fedia.io 21 hours ago
Now show the testing rate over the same time period!
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 hours ago
Anti-vaxxers: No.
ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 hours ago
10 out of a 1000 to 30ish out of a 1000 doesn’t even seem like a massive increase, especially if it’s really due to something like a pain medication that is taken by a huge population. Which it’s not as it’s more related to improvements in diagnosing.
I guess they are just hoping people see bar go up and therefore bad.
Sergio@piefed.social 14 hours ago
This graph will live forever, in intro classes, as an example of how not to do things.
jacksilver@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Im confused, it’s got both axis labeled and seems pretty easy to read.
Maybe points off for having the labels on the outside rim of the graphic.
Doesn’t change the fact that classification of autism also changed over those years, but the graph itself is okay.
gedaliyah@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
fossilesque@mander.xyz 18 hours ago
Before you get more downvotes, it’s a reference folks: …wikipedia.org/…/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistic…
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 18 hours ago
In hypernormalization, making SURE you know they ARE LYING and that IT DOESN’T MATTER is essential.
Because the goal is to make you believe you can’t do anything, so that you give up and demobilize that is their goal.
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Guarantee you the people afraid of autism has no idea what it even is, other than “bad”
Pandantic@midwest.social 11 hours ago
It looks nepotism put a failson in charge of this graph.
rirus@feddit.org 7 hours ago
What’s wrong with the x-Axis?
shneancy@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
if you look at it for 1s it looks scary. if you look at it for 2s it doesn’t make any fucking sense like, at all
vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 hours ago
Main problem is that its not really an axis at all.
OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Maybe what’s important is the axis we made along the way
atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
I think it’s birth cohorts
iAvicenna@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
prevalence of cancer has increased ∞% since 0 BC
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Oh god!
danc4498@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Can somebody smarter than me tell me what this is trying to say? There’s a bar for surveillance year and birth year. But, for instance, 2012 is on the graph twice with different values. What does it mean?
bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 22 hours ago
2012 appears once as a birth year and once as a surveillance year. The graph says that they only ever surveyed 8-year-olds, since the birth year is always 8 less than the surveillance year.
Joeffect@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
But they have 12 bars and 7 labels… it makes no sense
VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 22 hours ago
They were told to make a graph that increases and that’s what they did.
fossilesque@mander.xyz 22 hours ago
It’s no longer number go up good season.
Eq0@literature.cafe 21 hours ago
Bad graph, they couldn’t decide if the X axis was the birth year of the kids or the year of the test but they give the same information since it’s always 8-year-old kids being tested. Anyways, they wrote the year of the test first and second the year of birth.
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 21 hours ago
There is an 𝑥 axis and it’s not too hard to comprehend, although I’d prefer the dividing character to be newline rather than “|”, or only show the latter date.
Triumph@fedia.io 21 hours ago
The years are either out of order or overlapping.
ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
No, it’s “surveillance year | birth year” and only every other value is listed. It would be nicer with a numerical value but it’s fine.
onslaught545@lemmy.zip 21 hours ago
But they aren’t from what I can see. They’re surveillance/birth year pairs in ascending order.
thejml@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
I honestly don’t know why they even list the birth year. It explicitly states “8 Year Olds”, we can do the math.
axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 11 hours ago
Can anyone decipher the graph for me?
BrrdShrrmp@lemmy.ca 10 hours ago
When they collected the data in 2000, about seven 8 year olds out of 1000 had autism. Those children were born in 1992.
When they collected the data in 2002, about six 8 year olds out of 1000 had autism. Those children were born in 1994. This information was not labelled on the x axis.
When they collected the data in 2004, about eight 8 year olds out of 1000 had autism. Those children were born in 1996.
When they collected the data in 2006, about six 8 year olds out of 1000 had autism. Those children were born in 1998. This information was not labelled on the x axis.
When they collected the data in 2008, about eleven 8 year olds out of 1000 had autism. Those children were born in 2000.
… I’m too lazy to continue but …
When they collected the data in 2020, about twenty seven 8 year olds out of 1000 had autism. Those children were born in 2012.
When they collected the data in 2022, about thirty two 8 year olds out of 1000 had autism. Those children were born in 2014. This information was not labelled on the x axis.
I’m not positive i’m reading it right, but that’s what I think they were trying to convey with this (terribly labeled) graph.
PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
When people say autism they think of the nonverbal kind not the model train kind.
gedaliyah@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Also remember that we only had diagnostic tools for adult autism beginning in the 1980s.
The rise of autism diagnosis does not necessarily equal a rise in autism.
MJKee9@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
That’s definitely something an autist would say!!! We found them, boys!!!
Plum@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
… did they adjust the data points to go from lowest to highest
…so the chart go up?
…
fossilesque@mander.xyz 22 hours ago
I guess we found the answer to “Is math invented or discovered?”
Plum@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Bad Graph says: 0.75% of 8 year olds were diagnosed in 2000 versus 3.2% in 2020.
Correlation =/= causation.
How have the diagnostic criteria changed in 20 years? Autism was a stigma when I was in high school in 2000, now it’s a spectrum. Are there routine screenings at pediatricians now?
Number go up, but what else go up simultaneously?
I hate it here.
Kolonel_Kahlua@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Same guys that taxed an island full of penguins?
jacksilver@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Each bar shows two years; years they surveyed the kids and the year the kids were born.
So 2000|1992, is saying that kids born in 1992 were surveyed in 2000. If you look at tmit with thtmat perspective you can see it’s ordered by the year.
Mirshe@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Massaging your stats to make them say what you want is basic statistics 101.
neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
That’s like saying we have more cancer now than in the past.
Sure, that might be true in certain scenarios (we’re very good at creating new ways to give ourselves cancer).
The truth is that we’re living longer, increasing the risk and likelihood of cancer, and we’ve gotten a LOT better at finding and diagnosing cancer and specific types.
Caffeinated_Sloth@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Military spending also increased from 2000-2022, ergo military spending causes autism.
lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 hours ago
I think the x axis is “year of measurement | year of birth” since they are 8 years apart. Very unconventional and it would need an explanation but it’s not bad to have both pieces of information handy in this context
reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 21 hours ago
wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 20 hours ago
Most magats are autists but not all autists are magats?
reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 20 hours ago
It’s hard to speculate, but the cdc should take a look at this strong correlation!!
BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Yeah Autism rates are going up in all groups because people are getting diagnoses. This is partly about better awareness but also partly about money - there is an incentive to expand the diagnosis, diagnose more people and treat more people, which somewhat muddies the water. Autistic Spectrum Disorder first appeared in the American DSM in 2012, unifying 5 existing conditions into one, and then it moved into the international ICD in 2018 (going live in 2022). It is no wonder awareness has gone up, and infrastructure for diagnosis has rolled out.
We’re not seeing an increase in Autism, we’re seeing an increase in the diagnosis of autism. This graph just shows how stupid and dumbed down the CDC and the White House is under this cretinous president.
Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Autism diagnosis rates. Quite a difference.