Americans have 400 days to save their democracy

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• Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  No they fucking don’t. They have zero fucking days. Time is up and they DON’T CARE, they - the country of freedom - demonstrably want this.

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  • minorkeys@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They have no fuckign clue what to do. Nobody teaches you how to oppose a fascist dictatorship and there are zero leaders doing so. It’s an entire damn education and skills training regime that people are too desperately poor to afford to figure out individually.

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    • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Have you seen how people online react when you float the idea of strikes (or really anything beyond parades masquerading as protests) as a method of resistance? The vast majority of Americans demonstrably don't care enough about fascism to do something about it. By the way the word isn't "oppose;" it's "overthrow."

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    • veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They have no fuckign clue what to do. Nobody teaches you how to oppose a fascist dictatorship

      France taught us well. Americans love their lumberjacks, you can make a lot of guillotines with that.

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  • dvoraqs@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m sorry you are already so defeated about our chances. Why don’t you just stand aside and collect yourself rather than try to demoralize the rest of us?

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    • Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      America demoralizes every friend and former ally and threatens WWIII.

      We are aside, watching America do nothing after decades of bragging about how free you were and how willing you were to stick up for it.

      There is no “rest of us” for us outsiders. America is doing this just like Russia invaded Ukraine and Israel is committing genocide, not some of their people.

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    • mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Lets look at the grand opposition to trump:

      the democrats

      your country is cooked my friend

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  • Serinus@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You’re not helping. You might be worse than the idiots. You have the awareness to see what is happening, and this is how you respond.

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    • SebaDC@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      TBF, the alternative is to wait a bit more and see how the situation evolves and if the midterm change something.

      Everyone’s telling you: react now. The close future/midterm won’t change anything.

      The message is more a call to action, rather than anything… Stop waiting.

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  • cyborganism@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Demonstrably? Care to demonstrate?

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    • CrazyHorse@lemmy.cafe ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s at least 2000 miles away so no.

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  • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Lol, these trolls are so obvious. Hate bait.

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  • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Hahaha you think it matters if they care or not

    That’s adorable

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    • 3abas@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The whole reason we’re in this is mess is people’s apathy and insisting the only thing they can do is vote for warmongering Democrats. Everyone is just working their jobs and living their life normally, when they should be out in the streets demanding heads on spikes.

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• Adderbox76@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  People need to get it through their head that there will BE NO MIDTERMS.

  Trump has done this much in only 9 months, and he still has another 9 to find a way to never have elections again. He’s already got his Reichstag moment with the Charlie Kirk killing. He’s already declared that democrats are going to be investigated and that “left wing violence” is the enemy. Why the fuck do people think he’s done all of that if not to pre-emptively get some bullshit excuse to “postpone” the midterms?

  Get your heads out of your asses, Americans.

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  • CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There’s no benefit in ceding ground preemptively. I don’t suspect he’ll actually cancel the election so much as make it even less fair that usual to avoid the risk of losing, but either way, convincing everyone that this is what he will do, before he does it, just means that when it happens people won’t get as mad about it because it’ll be “old news” in their heads anyway.

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    • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There's no benefit in ceding ground preemptively.

      There is: If you know there will be no fair elections, you know you need to find another way of resisting fascism. It seems many are banking on a blue wave to come and save the day in the midterms, so the knowledge that this won't and can't happen is important.

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  • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Trump has done this much in only 9 months, and he still has another 9 to find a way to never have elections again.

    Small correction: He still has 14 months before the elections themselves, and another two and a half months before those elected take office, to figure it out. In other words, he's still got ~65% of his pre-Midterms term to destroy democracy.

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    • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Phew!

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  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    he already installed a election denier to head the elections infrastructure nationwide.

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    • lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Hold the fuck up. Am I getting this right?

      You have to register to be able to vote. If you register, you might have to work in court, losing out on pay. You don’t get any compensation for that. The lost pay can ruin you financially.

      What the fuck?

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    • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Depends on the state. In CT you can get called for jury duty of you have a driver’s license, no voter registration required

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  • HubertManne@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If midterms happen it will have to have people in the streets prior. We really need the various military/police to step up by standing down.

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  • Runaway@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There will be midterms, there just won’t be fair or accurate results.

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    • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      …If Republicans are overseeing them.

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  • Montagge@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The Americans did not get their heads out of their asses

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  • whoisearth@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s wild as a Canadian watching for sure. All international news sources are still in on the koolaid as well because they have to be. For all intents and purposes midterms will happen but behind closed doors I bet all journalists would tell you it’s gonna be like a Russian election. The fix is in. What’s laughable is no one is saying it out loud yet and Americans aren’t fighting for their democracy.

    1/3 of America is full in on fascism 1/3 of America doesn’t give a shit 11/36 of America sees it and sits on their asses 1/36 of America is actively trying to stop this

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  • Baked86@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Even if they do have em it doesnt matter with election fuckery like gerrymandering and other corrupt bullshit the ussa will pull

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  • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    He implied this’ll be his last term at the state visit to the UK

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• rauls5@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It was over the night he won. We traded it for slightly cheaper eggs.

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  • just2look@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Correction: For the obviously false promise of cheaper eggs.

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  • Adderbox76@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You traded it for tiktok and other shiny things. The last nine months has proven that modern humans as a whole will go out of our way to not do a damn thing about a LOT of bad shit as long as we still have access to our ipads, smartphones and streaming services.

    Americans (and yes…Westerners in general) are so addicted to their creature comforts that we’ll excuse almost anything in order to avoid the inconvenience of not having them if we stand up and actually revolt.

    It’s utterly disgusting.

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  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s funny, because the eggs got more expensive.

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  • SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Some traded fascism for their own moral certitude.

    Because allowing the Nazis to seize unanimous power was apparently better than voting for someone who was vague about one genocide.

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    • veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Or worse: voting for a woman!

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    • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Calling Harris "vague" really does you no favors here, because while she thought she was being vague everyone knew exactly what she was going to do.

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  • TwinTitans@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    *Russian eggs of poor quality.

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  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    its not even that, trump dropped the issue the moment he found out he coulndt lower them, MSM never followed it up.

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  • misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Actually Democrats won, if you discount proven cheating like purging legitimate voters. What was that word again for a government that doesn’t have fair elections?

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  • Serinus@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    (Hint: If you subsidize eggs, you can make them cheaper.)

    Why didn’t Biden think of that? /s

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• Randomgal@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What democracy? Lmao

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  • DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What do you mean you dont have a democracy? You just aren’t allowed to vote on,

    -Corporate taxes -Gun and militia rights -Getting rid of mass surveillance -Ownership of your own data -Workers having time off work -Grassroot prosecutions of the rich and powerful by citizens -Anonymity online -Free speech -The right to access information -The foreign policy of the U.S -How many cops and prisons your country should have -Locally run elections and rational districting or abolishing the electoral collage -Not having 500 separate taxes for the honest and poor working man -Whether you should be allowed to buy medicine outside the medical cartel -Immigration -Transparency in the state process -Reinstituring the constitution above laws and executive orders -Removing controversial or dirtbags politicians from office -Banning corporate lobbying, making the electoral process public and transparent. -Not having tracking devices forced into every device you own and even your car. -whether you have to get skin cancer by not having window tint so CCTV can pick up your face as you drive by -Dmca and copyright -banning HOAs -Getting rid of state backed paper currencies -Owning and rooting devices you own.

    But don’t worry you can vote to take away each others human rights every election depending on how many of you are loyal and show up to vote for your elections. You are free to vote to strip trans people of rights one year, and Christians of rights the next year. You can strip hispanics of rights one year and white people of rights the next year. You can always vote for less corporate taxes! And more taxes for yourself. You can always vote to make your neighborhood safer by having policecorp tm and Black Rock come manage your security! Lots of homeless people out there these days. Policecorp would like to remind you to watch 15 minutes of advertising four times per day to get 15% off your security package from all those pesky homeless people who are too lazy to work 12 hour shifts in the papermill for snack money like you God fearing patriotic Americans.

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  • Nalivai@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Oh no, the president is fash, we elected him democratically. Time to give up without doing anything I guess, there is no way to elect anyone democratically.

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    • Raiderkev@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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      I’m gonna stay posting this. We didn’t elect this mess. This is what we actually voted for.

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    • Randomgal@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Elected him democratically? Lmao

      Let me know how that ‘popular vote’ that barely includes half the population goes next time.

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• Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  nope, 400 days in the past you mean. the chance was NOV 5.

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  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    its already been more than 1year to this day, since biden dropped out of the election.

    Switching out the incumbent has been a feature of losing elections in 4 of 4 attempts. So you’re not wrong, here.

    But I still blame the morons who voted for a sure loser, against harm reduction, because they disliked the amount of meddling the US needs to do abroad – because it’s apparently too low. Those people made the difference, and the Russian backers are pleased at the results.

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• DasFaultier@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  OK, lemme get this straight. This is a group project for 340M people with a deadline that is more than a year ahead. How do we think this will work out?

  • People will do nothing for another at least 10 months or so, then panic and do anything to at least have something to show for.
  • Most people won’t participate at all and hope that the rest will hand in something that they can claim ownership of.
  • When the deadline arrives, they will try to copy the democracy of neighboring nations, even though it’s far too late to change the outcome.

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  • Lumisal@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Well not sure how much babies and toddlers can do, so that shrinks the amount of people involved at least

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    • warbond@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Dumbass freeloading babies…

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  • Nalivai@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    We will smugly decry that nothing can be done, and continue sharing memes about death of direct action

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      excuse me i like cheese and wine

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• solrize@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Maybe Trump will outlaw the Democrats by then.

  independent.co.uk/…/trump-stephen-miller-outlaw-d…

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• HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  More accurate would be “Most Americans will find out that the United States is run by fascists in no earlier than 400 days”

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  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    we arnt already, im pretty sure it was clear, the moment doge started cutting, and he was cancelling things left and right.

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    • 3abas@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Correct, look at any dictatorial regime in history, half the population will but the propaganda without an ounce of critical thought, most of the remaining will shrug and keep their head low to survive, and a tiny portion of the population will resist, which makes them easy to target and eliminate.

      And nothing will improve until there’s a critical mass of resistance, which the average American has no interest in.

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• cyborganism@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Democrats are going to force another establishment elite that nobody wants as a leader and fuck it all up again, I bet.

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  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    they want NEWSOM, yuck. after seeing ZOHRAN and madhami could do, they arnt taking any chances,.

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• Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s already too late

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• Etterra@discuss.online ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Oh I’m pretty sure we’re already too fucked to recover.

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• myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Fuck it. Burn it down.

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• veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  More like -740 days.

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• deathbird@mander.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I mean, I get it, but come on…

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• waldo_was_here@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Nope

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