I would do my work in Open Office at home, save it to doc/docx, then when it is entirely completed, I will bring it to the library to load it in Word on a library computer and correct any formatting issues and resave it.
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bunchberry@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
TimeNaan@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Wasn’t .docx also supposed to be an open standard but M$ kept fucking with the implementation so it would only work in Office?
nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 days ago
Puttaneska@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Isn’t it open? It works with Dropbox and macOS Numbers opens .docx and saves as .docx.
otacon239@lemmy.world 1 day ago
So does LibreOffice, but they’ve been called out multiple times for purposefully making the format overly complex to make it as hard as possible to reliable read and write to it.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 day ago
Yes, it technically is a standard, but because it’s an ISO standard you have to pay for I wouldn’t call it open. www.iso.org/standard/71691.html but people have different definitions of what an open standard is and I’m not trying to critique them.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 1 day ago
Everyone knows the only acceptable formats are .pdf and .tex, everything else should be shunned out of society.
thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
- If it’s meant to be pretty, portable, and only for reading: pdf
- If it’s text with no formatting: txt
- If it’s formatted and editable: md
lime@feddit.nu 1 day ago
.tex is a source format, not a presentation format, and as such should not be valid in a submission field.
they should take .ps though.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Dvi file then.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 1 day ago
Hmmm, a compress folder full of the .tex and the resources.
Little8Lost@lemmy.world 1 day ago
.pdf can contain malware
But the entire paper in a .jpeg would be hilariouseah@programming.dev 1 day ago
.tex
Ha, lamers. A true wizard writes their assignments in roff.
BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
roff? Ha poser! I use CTSS /s
Nah, I hand code my postscript on magnetic core memory with a geomag stud.
NerdsGonnaNerd@sh.itjust.works 20 hours ago
I used typst for my thesis and a couple of assignments and can absolutely recommend it. Easier syntax and ultra fast compilation.
Allero@lemmy.today 1 day ago
I wonder how people actually work with LaTeX.
Do you actually write all the headers and stuff manually through a TeX editor, or do you use tools that do it for you?
Because the former sounds incredibly tedious.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 1 day ago
The former, it becomes easy and “natural” fast, as you memorize the stuff, eventually you become so used to being able to specify how the document should be specifically that using WYSIWYG stuff like word is awful, you start to fight with the document editor…
But there is stuff like overleaf if you want something less direct, it is still LaTeX but it has tools and Whatnots to do it easier.
iamkindasomeone@feddit.org 1 day ago
I do both, but usually I use markdown to write the texts because it features basic formatting like headers and bold text, but it’s faster and easier to write. Then I use pandoc to convert it into .tex and do the final editing and adjusting directly in Latex.
thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Do you actually write all the headers and stuff
I’ve used Latex as my go-to tool for writing anything that needs formatting for years, and I’m not quite sure I understand what you mean?
I start off my document with a
documentclassstatement, which is one line…? And then I will sometimesusepackagea couple things for further document-wide formatting, but we’re still talking about a small handful of lines (like 5-10 at most).The preamble can grow quite large for big documents with a lot of specific formatting, but I have some boilerplate preambles with the most common packages lying around that I can copy-paste in. Usually however, the preamble grows as you’re writing the document and you add things dynamically as you need them.
I would love to give you a better answer to your question, since my impression is that pretty much no one that swaps to Latex ever looks back, and I would love to help you learn. Feel free to expand on what you mean by “all the headers and stuff” and I’ll try to give a better answer :)
flango@lemmy.eco.br 18 hours ago
.tex supremacy
ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Okay, I just want to say I blame schools for Microsoft’s monopoly on personal computing. School sysadmins are always dazzled by the shiny looking gifts that Microsoft gives them, ensuring the next generation of Microsoft useds is ready.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yes I really liked the “microsoft excel and spreadsheets” class everyone had to take for 1-2 whole years. That one tool designed for you to learn basics within weeks.
I mean imagine how many negative side effects on education there would be if we just spent one or two weeks learning KStars or Geogebra or Kalzium.
Don’t worry tho cause with microsoft backing openai I am sure every student will be given a set of chatgpt premium accounts to “help” them in their learning.
You lose some you lose some.
eah@programming.dev 1 day ago
Schools could have used that time they were “teaching” the Office suite to give an introduction to unix, programming, and the basics of how the internet functions. I had to read and analyze Beowulf, Shakespeare, Chaucer, and Homer and memorize the names and formulas of 33 polyatomic ions. Computing education to the same depth should have been and should be required as it was required for the other subjects.
flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Really?
They’re almost universally Chromebooks and the Google suite for schools these days…
lime@feddit.nu 1 day ago
yeah but that’s fairly recent.
when i was in school in the late 90s it was all microsoft all the time. we had courses specifically on Microsoft^TM^ Word^TM^. that sort of indoctrination isn’t visible in the workplace until the people going through it are old enough to work.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
K-12 use Google, University use Microsoft
Legom7@lemmy.world 1 day ago
A couple years ago I interned for computer support at an elementary school in NYC. Most students had Chromebooks and Gsuite, K-2nd grade had iPads. Teachers had Lenovo laptops with Windows 10 and Office365.
ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 2 days ago
Could we perhaps not drag RMS out of whatever dark place we're blessed not to hear about him from?
We have enough pedo shit going on with the POTUS at the moment.
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
blurb@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
For anyone who’s not aware:
stallman-report.orgExtremeDullard@piefed.social 2 days ago
Thanks. Sorry I should have linked to it. I kind of assumed it was common knowledge.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Does using the computer just turn people into this?
Zetta@mander.xyz 1 day ago
Wow, he’s quite passionate. I just kept scrolling through the quotes and it never ends
jcr@jlai.lu 1 day ago
For anyone who is not aware: https://stallmansupport.org/
Serinus@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Yeah, LibreOffice saves in docx. Which is fine as long as you don’t care what it looks like when they open it.
arrow74@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
At least for school assignments this is easily fixed by just opening it yourself in the school library and adjusting format. It’s usually pretty minor.
Honestly most of my professors accepted papers saved as pdfs which was helpful too
crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
When I was in college and I needed extra time on a paper (because I procrastinated too hard), I would deliberately save the .odt as an incompatible .doc format and submit it. Which gave me at least as much time as it took for the professor to let me know they couldn’t open it and ask to resubmit.
HowAbt2day@futurology.today 1 day ago
What do we do ir we want to be automática?
mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Haven’t used word in over 20 years and have no intention of ever using it again.
OpenOffice baby!
MazonnaCara89@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
OpenOffice 💀 Dude that thing doesn’t get a proper update since 2014, the most they do today is code style changes!
Indeed the libreoffice team wrote them a letter in 2020 about this: blog.documentfoundation.org/…/open-letter-to-apac…
iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org 1 day ago
Libreoffice is so nice. I also use onlyoffice on my phone, and have liked it so far.
mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Works great for any and all word processing and spreadsheet that I need.
I don’t do that much of it anyway so I don’t really need anything more than open office.
lefixxx@lemmy.world 1 day ago
*libre office
mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yes. I know, it’s more popular than open office but I’ve used open office for so long now I don’t want to switch.
Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 20 hours ago
btw libreoffice is just a continuation of openoffice development
bigfondue@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Most of my professors prefer pdf
PropaGandalf@lemmy.world 1 day ago
most of them accept pdfs so if thats the case for you just write the assignment in typst or latex and compile to pdf
absentbird@lemmy.world 1 day ago
This is the way.
GreenShimada@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Best thing I ever saw was an Italian cooking class that sent recipes as an ODT, and then 20 minutes later as a DOCX as an afterthought for the Americans.
Emerald@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Why not pdf?
GreenShimada@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Because the chef didn’t know how to do that? I dunno.
sommerset@thelemmy.club 1 day ago
Do you remember when radicals were trying to cancel RMS because of him merely defending some accused person.
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 hours ago
No, I in fact don’t.
I recall people questioning his publicly stated beliefs on his website that he updates frequently of “what if the child consents tho?!” when defending someone accused of sexual assault.
www.stallman.org/archives/2006-mar-jun.html#05 Ju…
Dutch pedophiles have formed a political party to campaign for legalization.
I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms children. The arguments that it causes harm seem to be based on cases which aren’t voluntary, which are then stretched by parents who are horrified by the idea that their little baby is maturing.
All link his personal website for her views and documented credited places for other statements/citations.
kilgore_trout@feddit.it 1 day ago
The whole feud was very sad to unfold.
Ok, he is not perfect, but we need him, now more than ever. Even if only as a symbol.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 20 hours ago
Mine accepted rtf.
shane@feddit.nl 2 hours ago
Another proprietary Microsoft format:
daggermoon@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Mine accepted both. The professor read it from a web app anyway.
matmarspace@programming.dev 2 days ago
It’s the right thing to complain about that kind of stuff and to do it officially.
simplejack@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Nick Offerman after getting Jumanji’ed
axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 1 day ago
Me when the school system is Google Classroom
pheggs@feddit.org 1 day ago
just rename the file and submit it as a .docx, it’s their fault
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Can’t OpenOffice export to DocX?
jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
please do not use openoffice in 2025
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Honestly I keep mixing up Openoffice and Libreoffice.
Toes@ani.social 1 day ago
I use RTF because it works on most systems out of the box.
TomMasz@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I can smell this pic.*
*Not a compliment
random_character_a@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Personally complain to the it crew and you get that look.
individual@toast.ooo 1 day ago
that’s an old looking William Riker
iii@mander.xyz 2 days ago
I once failed a uni assignment, because the teachers assistant wrote remarks on a pdf in a way that’s only viewable in adobe’s products.
She failed is because “we ignored her remarks”. Had no idea they were there.
Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Had the same in gymnasium, eventually got it overturned via bitching about it. Notes wouldnt even show up on their webapp : /
Meron35@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Tbh it’s probably less of an Adobe problem and more due to the absolute mess that is PDF annotations.
Despite being a defined open standard, most free PDF viewers either don’t support them (zathura etc), or fuck them up (GNOME evince). Even some of the viewers that do support them like Okular need extra configuration.
Unironically Firefox as a PDF viewer actually has the best support for PDF annotations.
The state of PDF Readers on Linux - Discussion - It’s FOSS Community - itsfoss.community/t/…/12798
JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 day ago
Ooh I would fucking LAY into her in the review if she did that, and cause a drink to the dean. That shit would’ve pissed me off so bad. I hate when people expect you to be telepathic like that.
FeatherConstrictor@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
To be honest she probably didn’t even know that the comments were only visible to Adobe product readers, but that’s still infuriating as hell