How disappointing but expected. I’m not even sure what would break googles search engine dominance outside of search engines becoming obsolete. I use DDG and I find it to be better than google but still so many people stand by google search with strong loyalty.
Google gets to keep Chrome, judge rules in search antitrust case
Submitted 3 weeks ago by VITecNet@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.theverge.com/policy/717087/google-search-remedies-ruling-chrome
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Auth@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
ifItWasUpToMe@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I very much dislike Google but constantly search stuff on DDG, with little to no success. Then I’ll add !g to the front, and a decent chunk of the time what I’m looking for is top 3, not including all the sponsored shit.
Are there specific ways you search for DDG to be better?
Lag@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’ve had the exact opposite experience for the past year. I had to switch the default to DDG at work where I need to search for specific model numbers every day. I don’t remember the last time I actually Googled something on the PC or phone (Firefox search bar with DDG default). I only use Google for maps where it’s always been the best.
Auth@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The only time I ever need to use a google bang is when im searching for something specifically local like a restaurant. DDG uses apple maps and apple maps is complete garbage.
When I cant find something on DDG and I use the !g 99% of the time I cant find it on google either.
Scolding7300@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Try search aggregators, at least the fingerprint won’t be attached to you (with some at least)
Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
It really seems to depend on the topic. I would say, on average DDG is better from my experience. However, when it doesn’t work it really doesn’t work. Google usually has something you want fairly early in the results.
someguy3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Same. Ddg can’t find shit.
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I moved to DDG because I felt Google results were getting worse. You would search for something specific and instead just get varying degrees of the same article on different sites about it instead.
Then I felt DDG was getting worse in just not always getting what was related, so I’ve moved to qwant.
Other than not always getting geo-related results, the results have been the best I’ve seen in a while so I’ve stuck around for now.
muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 3 weeks ago
I’m on searxng and find most of the good results come from google
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 weeks ago
Barring them from offering exclusive deals, which allows competitors to get in the mix at places like Mozilla.
I did not come up with this idea, this was one of the remedies the Judge chose. @Squiddork@lemmy.world Telling them to drop Chrome was just flashy talk.
Auth@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I dont think that would help because chrome would offer good by default and apple would offer chrome by default for the “best experience” and they dont need the money. Then alternative browsers with an already low market share would get paid less to offer other search engines. Its risky to ship a non google search by default.
fodor@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Oh come on now. All of the strong options would have worked. Don’t let Google buy its competition off. Don’t let Google buy it’s default position. Don’t let Google control the browser. That’s it, problem solved.
You claim people are loyal, but if that were true, the aforementioned payoffs would not exist.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Google should lose control of Android. Maybe then we’ll keep the ability to install any app we want.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Google should be disconnected and erase from the internet like any other worm/virus
limerod@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
You think other companies would provide sideloading like samsung, and oneplus? They would lock the OS hard and make it difficult to even unlock. Making android more closed than before.
Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Well then why aren’t they doing so now? They’re already maintaining their own forks of android, should be pretty trivial to do.
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I highly doubt AOSP can’t mantain itself, and that manufacturers could build from it and do whatever.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Google needs the AT&T treatment. And while we’re at it give AT&T the AT&T treatment
db2@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Completely expected. Google paid the protection money.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
That’s it ? Usually these things go into appeal over and over but google just has to win once ?
Stovetop@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Who would appeal? The case was started by the DOJ and the DOJ made this decision. Google apparently paid the requisite tribute to the Trump admin to make all of this go away, and so it has.
kerntucky@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
They kissed the ring. The ‘O’ ring.
DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
With reports of Elon Musk eying to buy Chrome or OpenAI… sorry but I believe this was the best outcome, what we need is people using more Firefox that is one of the few non-Chromium browser out there.
ATPA9@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Yeah, i had the same thoughts. The current chrome is better than the “Hitlerdidnothingwrong AI-First” browser those goons would have cooked up…
chaospatterns@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Was that anything more than just rumors? Letting a currently monopolistic company keep the browser because another bad billionaire might buy it and do something bad with it just prevents anything from changing.
DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Who would buy a browser for billions and billions of dollars? Just see who has this amount of money and how aggressive they would need to be to get return of investment.
black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
But he did…bar the search giant from making exclusive deals to distribute its search or AI assistant products in ways that might cut off distribution for rivals.
Oh boy there goes Firefox
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Nah its just the default search engine and you can still change the default, thus not cutting off distribution of other engines.
otter@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I think they’re referring to Firefox’s funding, a lot of which was through search deals
An article from 5 years ago: pcmag.com/…/mozilla-signs-lucrative-3-year-google…
KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
I see the checks to Trump cleared!
Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You are spot on.
Tortellinius@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Who cares about chrome? Of all the things Chrome is the easiest to replace. Android is the real deal.
magguzu@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
The problem is Chromium.
Tortellinius@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How would they lose Chromium when it’s only about Chrome?
clot27@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
No one saw that coming
theneverfox@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
Fuuuuck.
altphoto@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Just don’t do it again mmmkay?
Korkki@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
So they have to give away search data?
Is there an antitrust on android or appstore ongoing?
Mad__vegan@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m on ecosia with okay search results. Sadly if I know it exists but still having problems I resist to Google but Supposedly ecosia plants trees with some of the revenue
UltraBlack@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Ecosia uses google, no?
kilgore_trout@feddit.it 3 weeks ago
Microsoft Bing.
Redex68@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I mean, of all the things to cut off of them, Chrome made the least sense to me. It’s not a profitable part of the business, it would just die if spun off. The only reason Firefox is alive is because Google is funding them.
Squiddork@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
So they found Google guilty of monopolistic practices then agreed to do nothing about it.
Sounds about right.
FenrirIII@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Welcome to the capitalistic oligarchy!
TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
it’s not even close to being over yet
kerntucky@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
Please elaborate.