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Exclusive: Baroness Chakrabarti said the latest arrest demonstrates the dangers of the ongoing proscription of Palestine Action, which is being challenged in the courts
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Where’s all the “free speech supporters” now? (like the one who taught his dog to do a nazi salute)
They fully support this.
It’s a godsend I’m off that site.
Everyone who uses Facebook should be raided
Stab bobbies
Holy shit this is fucked, no speaking out about the genocide of we’ll kick your fucking door in, in a dawn raid, holy shit dystopian
Death, death to the IDF!
When his housemate answered the door, he said, they barged inside and burst into his bedroom
What an asshole. This is why you need to talk to your housemates and make sure they know their rights.
Never answer the door for police. Just ignore them until they go away.
Does this apply in the UK?
As a citizen of the UK, I want to say this is disgusting and our nation has gone off the rails I LOVE ISRAEL!!!
Despite agreeing with the sentiment, I just can't bring myself to upvote those last three words.
Believe it or not, straight to jail.
A government with official policy, that has been reinforced publicly in last few weeks, of Palestinian State (presumably action needed by them above and beyond UK’s official blessing of the concept)
Knowing that a specific group is being persecuted by UK, is difficult to track. It should not mean that sharing a universally human message authored by that group, where the name is credibly interchangeable with organizationless concept of “Action for Palestine’s freedom”, cannot be a crime or vector for Guantanamo Bay internment.
What is happening in the UK?
You guys went from 0 to authoritarian like very quickly
The UK has been arresting people for saying offensive things for a long time. It’s just that most of the victims were on the right, and most people on the left were cheering for it. Now that the laws are being used against their side and their causes, they’re sad and outraged. It’s a tale as old as democracy: people don’t care until it materially affects them. Every time we give up rights or give governments more power, no matter how justified we think the cause today, those powers will eventually be turned against us.
Count Dankula only got an 800 pound fine and no jail time. He also wasn’t raided, and I doubt they took his fingerprints and DNA either. These people are spending a days in jail for no fucking reason.
The dog doing a Nazi salute is stupid. Really stupid. But what is happening here is that they are discussing something serious. If count Dankula was arrested for speaking about some new law or whatever it would be an entirely different case.
0? Hardly. For a simple pop-culture counterpoint, V for Vendetta was written as an indictment of the UK’s slide into fascism. It was published in 1982. Fascism doesn’t happen overnight, it’s a slow boil erosion of rights and democracy that works in the shadows of government over decades to dissolve checks and balances from the inside and within the law.
UK has a fascist party disguised as a labour party running the show, that is what happened. Starmer is justing warming Nigel’s seat, that is his whole purpose in this shit show and he knows that.
They were warned that Labour was fascist but like everywhere else in the wold, just ignored it or didn’t care, hell the UK nazi party (aka Reform) is polling very well and dragging Labour and Tory further right.
The Labour Party is nowhere near fascist. Authoritarian? Yes.
Arrests for online posts isn’t new here.
(New) New Labour got back in power.
Labour are meant to be the left wing workers party. Old school Labour are socialists that brought in such things as the NHS (free healthcare) and The Open University (non-elitist university education open to anybody) in the mid-1900s.
New Labour first came into power in 1997 and left in 2010, they got back in last year (2024). They are not socialist by any means. They pretend at times to be socialist because of the image and reputation of Labour but in reality they’re capitalists. These are the people that introduced privatisation into the NHS (so you can only get healthcare for certain things if you are rich enough) and started the Iraq War 2 with Bush. They have always had an authoritarian streak but the socialists still within the party generally managed to hold them off. They had plans for mass surveillance and mandatory ID cards, but never managed to implement it by the time they lost the 2010 election.
Now they’re back, and the socialist elements of the party have been shunned ot kicked out, so the authoritarians can near do as they wish now.
In one year they have:
I’ve been sitting on the toilet too long writing this now so that’ll do, but here’s some more reading if you wish:
tribunemag.co.uk/…/new-labours-authoritarianism-i…
scotsman.com/…/palestine-action-ban-reveals-labou…
They didn’t cut winter fuel payments. They just made it means tested, as these things should be.
Probably not a coincidence New Labour rose around the same time as the US Democrats Third Way neoliberals, whodid much of the same in regards to gutting socialists from the party.
Fuck me, it’s got to be pretty miserable being British at the moment?
It’s not like the Tories were doing anything to better their lives, but hold crap Labour are definitely on world record pace speed-running Fascism any%.
I’ve been sitting on the toilet too long writing this now so that’ll do, but here’s some more reading if you wish:
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I bet your legs have fallen asleep.
Always has been
First time? UK going full auth mode and inspiring a vicious uprising and rebellion is one of the oldest traditions in their culture.
If I took a drink every time I posted “this is why I fucking left britain” my liver wouldn’t be doing too well.
I’m laughing at all the US emigrants who moved to the UK to avoid fascism.
Even with all the shit happening in the US, you can still post on FB in support of Palestine without getting arrested.
Seems like they chose very poorly yeah
Labour being this shit is going to give Britain to Reform. Why do all neoliberals just fuck up absolutely everything? They just can’t help themselves.
Is Starmer a neoliberal though ?
Don’t get me wrong, (neo)liberals are politically their own worst enemy most of the time, but at least properly attribute their political shittiness where it belongs.
Starmer is a tory in a red jacket.
What happen to you, UK? Torries is extremely incompetent, Reform is a fascist group, and Labour is an authoritarian party.
The tories are a more authoritarian party than labour.
The sad thing is Starmer has made it hard to judge.
Yeah, i agree, but still. The current shift mean people gonna throw around the “everyone is the same, what’s the point of voting” argument next election, which kinda spell the doom of any party that isn’t right leaning.
I think there is a world wide shift to authoritarian like systems
If I was in the UK, I’d probably already be in jail for this. Or for carrying a 3" pocketknife, or calling my neighbor a fascist and his wife a fat Nazi, or whatever.
American’s without guns, here’s your preview. They would already be kicking down our doors if there were zero fear of consequence.
American cops have been kicking down doors and shooting the people inside for a long time now.
And how bad do you think it would be at this point in history if they could smash doors with zero risk?
Cops are notorious cowards. For example, when people show up armed to protests they’re very polite and professional. Unarmed protests? Remember Portland?
Do Americans not have cops already kicking down doors? Only with guns drawn, and dead dogs in their wake.
Imagine what they would be like if they had zero fear of breaking in.
Breonna Taylor would also like a word, but she was killed in a no knock raid on the wrong house while she slept.
I think government leader are forgetting that one of the core ideas of liberal democracy is to protect individual rights.
core ideas of liberal democracy is to protect individual rights
Least naïve liberal
I will indeed protect our individual rights if need be. That’s not macho talk. Masked men are not dragging my brown wife out of our house, kicking and begging and screaming. I’ve made the decision, drawn the line, I will fight and die first.
To your point, I think Americans have forgotten that protecting individual rights is a fight that never ends. And yes, sometimes we will die doing so.
Pocket knife is fine unless you’re a black youth.
Ah! Good to hear the Brits are still keeping up with us Americans!
The USA has the world’s highest incarceration rate. Since at least 1990.
proscription
the action of forbidding something; banning.
I learned a new word today
Setting aside freedom of speech (as UK already did) why would you raid a suspect in a nonviolent crime with no material evidence to seize? Why not just send a summons?
Though I can answer my own question: state terror campaign to scare population into submission
Intimidation
This is fascism. As clear as day as the USA’s.
He aged pretty well
That’s some V for Vendetta shit
Seems like a good use of taxpayer money /s
Mr Cobb, who has 2,200 followers on his Facebook page, said he had never attended a demonstration or been a member of Palestine Action – now a proscribed terrorist organisation.
His arrest comes after more than 500 peaceful protesters were arrested at a demonstration in Parliament Square earlier this month for holding placards supporting the group.
Gosh, that must be expensive, protecting us all from old people with t-shirts and Facebook posts. I just hope the UK Government is remembering to keep some of the taxpayers’ money back to fund making trans people’s lives more difficult every day because JK Rowling. Then they have all the major threats covered and the British people can sleep soundly (until the police smash down the door).
Streissand effect is working at least
All the pigs are all lined up, I give you all that you want…
Wow, that guy has to be the most menacing guy I’ve ever seen. I am so scared. The horrors. Absolute horrors. Menace to society. Bring it all down. Thank you! Thank you for keeping us safe! Society would surely collapse if we didn’t drag 52 year old janitors from their beds in the wee hours of the morning for sharing facebook posts. Phew I feel so much safer.
Fuck Israel, genocidal scum!
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Westerners and their guilt from chastising a once abused child, to becoming the problem child.