Oh great another centralized repository of data about people that definitely won’t be abused by bad actors
Women are anonymously spilling tea about men in their cities on viral app
Submitted 20 hours ago by fantawurstwasser@feddit.org to technology@lemmy.world
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Feyd@programming.dev 19 hours ago
bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 hours ago
Anddddd…, it’s already been breached: www.404media.co/women-dating-safety-app-tea-breac…
dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 15 hours ago
This post is directly under a post about the breach in my feed.
friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
It’s even mentioned in the linked article.
Feyd@programming.dev 17 hours ago
Oooooooooof
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 hours ago
Saw that coming.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 hour ago
“What clubs does he go to?” another person asked on a different post. “He’s cute.”
Clubs? Are we in the 90ies?
StraponStratos@lemmy.sdf.org 6 hours ago
This is fucked up.
Numenor@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Tea just suffered a massive data leak
echodot@feddit.uk 5 hours ago
Yeah that’s what the article is about
percent@infosec.pub 9 hours ago
Kinda wild that app stores allow something like that. I wonder how long it’ll take for someone to build the same up, but with the roles reversed: Men anonymously talking about local women 😬
echodot@feddit.uk 5 hours ago
In theory it should be fine the problem is women always assume bad intent on the part of men, and good intent on the part of other women despite a fairly obvious fact that that’s ridiculous.
The problem is there doesn’t seem to be any system in place for review or correction. What if there someone who just doesn’t like me and posts photos and lies about me? Not only would I have no opportunity to correct the record, but unless someone I knew who was on the app told me about it, I wouldn’t even know because men aren’t allowed on.
Lfrith@lemmy.ca 1 hour ago
As someone who’s stayed away from creating accounts like Facebook the concept of being encouraged to share photos and real identities of people who haven’t consented to being on the social media site is really creepy to me.
Its like some random social media account shows up and you never signed up but a profile for you has already been made and has all these photos you never even shared on there because someone chose to upload them in your place.
I’d rather people choose not to associate with people who don’t have an account that has vetted on safety than be opted into something like this without choice.
douglasg14b@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Of course they would. It’s only allowed as long as the genders aren’t flipped.
just_another_person@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Huh…
Part of these types of things generally seem like a well-intentioned idea, but it’s also so creepy, scammy, and gross. This data won’t stop here by any means, and will be sold or used in a million different even shittier ways. Pretty fucked.
BombOmOm@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
It’s fine, no reason to sell the data, the service was literally just breached!
Gork@sopuli.xyz 20 hours ago
Don’t these companies know how to properly configure a database? This seemed like it was completely preventable.
starman@programming.dev 15 hours ago
Hahaha, that’s hilarious. I’ve just seen it on /g/ today.
just_another_person@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
😂
yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca 20 hours ago
yeah, well-intentioned things tend to go sour when exposed to the glow of anonymity on the internet. Starts off innocent, and goes downhill fast.
The creator, Sean, stating that he started this app as a reaction to the online dating scene his mother experienced, seems fine: an anti-catfishing app would be great.
To give the devil their due, the data they collect might also be valuable as data on how women discuss men online, which at a cursory glance seems to favor far more hyperbole than I see in everyday life.
simplejack@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 15 hours ago
ksigley@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Creating a digital social hierarchy was on my 2030 bingo card… dang.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
“He’s a cheater,” Walker said, reading some of the comments on one post out loud.
“What clubs does he go to?” another person asked on a different post. “He’s cute.”
That illustrates the big problem…
Some guys are lying assholes and horrible people, but so are some women.
It’s not going to take long for them to get massively sued, there’s no way they’re vetting the posted info, and it’s literally cyber bullying.
The guy (yes it’s a guy) who made and owns this is a fucking idiot for not seeing the lawsuits coming.
nulluser@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Some guys are lying assholes and horrible people, but so are some women.
and some guys anonymously posing as women online to undermine the competition.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Lol, reminds me of a different thread about trump pretending to be a woman and writing into newspapers:
“Based on the fact that I work for Donald Trump as his secretary—and therefore know him well—I think he treats women with great respect, contrary to what Julie Baumgold implied in her article … I do not believe any man in America gets more calls from women wanting to see him, meet him, or go out with him. The most beautiful women, the most successful women—all women love Donald Trump.”
Carolin Gallego December 7, 1992. (Not a realperson)
wampus@lemmy.ca 8 hours ago
Outside of the crap going on in the US fascist resurgence, women are generally defined as a minority that requires equity / special benefits and protections. Making an app to “protect women” by crowdsourcing information about potentially predatory / negative men is viewed as ‘good’, and would likely be ‘ok’ by many western country standards.
Making an app about women, with similar ‘experiences’ reported by guys, would be considered predatory, and would get shut down.
We can already see plenty of related things out and about – like “women only” companies getting applauded by govt / media, while the same sources shame any business that doesn’t attempt to get 50%+ women on staff. We shut down gentlemen’s clubs for being discriminatory, but we cheer women’s only spaces. Genders are not treated equally in the public’s eye, and it generally skews in favour of benefiting women at this point, especially once it hits media/govt/courts.
I think this is the more realistic take on how it’d play out.
hunnybubny@discuss.tchncs.de 13 hours ago
This is psychotic.
socialsecurity@piefed.social 19 hours ago
There is no way this would get abused by threat actors and mentally unstable types!
apex32@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
michaelmrose@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
From the first one
One profile the New Times uncovered supposedly of a philandering ex-boyfriend was actually a gay man who had spurned a woman’s advances.
turtlesareneat@discuss.online 9 hours ago
There’s no way a libel database could be a bad business model
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 19 hours ago
If I was going to make something like this, it would have to incorporate trust chains. I don’t care if some maga-hat says this lady is horrible. I care if my good friend Alex says she’s horrible. One person’s “this person won’t shut up about communism” is a big red flag (no pun intended) but for someone else that’s the dream.
When you sign up, you’d need to be referred to someone or be a root node. Anyone connected to you can be weighted differently. If some section of the tree is misbehaving, prune it.
But that’s a lot of work
pennomi@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Same thing should be done with product reviews, and social media comments, etc., etc.
Really if someone makes a robust way to have a trust chain that integrates into the Internet at large, that would prevent a whole universe of problems we have in modern society.
yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca 19 hours ago
I like where you’re going with this!
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 hours ago
Jitnaught@lemmy.ml 4 hours ago
cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 hours ago
Vanth@reddthat.com 20 hours ago
Friendly reminder that Facebook started as FaceMash, an app for men at Harvard to rate the attractiveness of women.
Both are bad. At least these women are nominally using it for safety and not just looks rating.
Finally, I would be really darn cautious of using any app like FaceMash or Tea. Seems like a great way to get sued for defamation. Or to become the target of escalated behavior of one of the bad ones.
paraphrand@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
I know one of the false electors from the 2020 election. They met their wife on Hot or Not.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
What a weird place some societies have come to.
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Using technology as a surrogate for community.
cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 19 hours ago
Thank God we have the GDPR in Europe.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Many states in the US have similar regulations. For example, California’s regulations are famously similar to GDPR.
brot@feddit.org 18 hours ago
If you think about it: The GDPR applies to all data of EU citizens regardless of where they are or where you are. There is no way that this app is not having some EU guy in New York in it and therefore totally in violation of GDPR
SaltSong@startrek.website 17 hours ago
No European law applies outside Europe. That’s kind of the nature of laws.
homura1650@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
And what is the EU going to do about it? Governing bodies can declare extraterritorial laws all they want, but they are meaningless unless they have a way to enforce them.
semperverus@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
The treaties and international laws between these countries absolutely allow the EU to enforce GDPR against companies and individuals outside of the EU if it involves an EU citizen as the victim. I know this because I have to work with it every day and I’m from the US.
zarathustra0@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
I imagine there are whatsapp groups for things like this.
But I’m going to pretend they don’t exist because I already feel self-conscious enough.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
People should bombard them with DSAR requests.
If you’re in a state that support data subject removal requests, like California, email support@teatheapp.com and say this is a formal DSAR request to remove all of your PII.
They have 45 days to follow through.
m3t00@piefed.world 15 hours ago
viral aka. gossip. some can't get enough
Fredselfish@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
So how this app work? Women take pics of men they see in public then rate them? Can someone explain how this keeps women safe?
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 hours ago
More like women can create a profile for men in their lives, and other women can share their experiences with that man. It’s sort of a publicly sourced Burn Book. It was apparently started because the creator’s mom had some bad dating experience, and basically lamented about how there wasn’t a good way for women to share stories about the men they’ve dated. Like “wouldn’t it be nice if women could stick red flags to a dude, to warn his potential partners in the future?”
So if a dude is an abuser, his victims can create a profile for him, where other women can share their experiences too.
AceSLive@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
I have no personal experience with the app at all, so what I am about to say comes from things I heard, or inferences I’ve made about the app - but…
I see the merit of an app like this for keeping people safe, but have no idea how it could be used without any possibility of it being abused.
On the face of it all, basically, if a man is abusive or in any way dangerous, or raises “red flags” for women, this app can help other women be aware. Lots of narcissistic assholes come across as lovely people at the start, but by the end are abusive people. My wifes ex husband, is one example, of a psychopathic narcissist. If only we could utilise an app like this to let other women know just who he is, and what to watch out for…
On the other side of it, of course, it’s all too easy to say someone is abusive or dangerous to defame or isolate that person. Women have the ability to be just as abusive as men. An abusive woman may use this app to make other women in their community scared of/avoidant of a man who isn’t in any way a danger to anyone.
Basically, my understanding of the app is that it allows women to give information about men they know and have dated, so other women can get a sort of background check on said men
But this, of course, could easily be misused and abused.
The app also required photo ID to prove you were a woman using the app, which recently was breached and ALL of the ID that was submitted is now viewable by anyone. So… yeah
thedruid@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
This is a nightmare. Some mentally deficient vigilante with delusions of grandeur and a fist full of painkillers would use this as a hit list.
.fartsparkles@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Founded by a man to enable women to redflag men?
What’s your bets the dude secretly hides posts about men he’s friends with etc?
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
I don’t play games with dead horses.
tourist@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
there’s gotta be at least one fun game like that
Maeve@kbin.earth 19 hours ago
Intrusive permissions/data collection/sharing, including location.
bathing_in_bismuth@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
Imagine if the genders were swapped in this situation