People angry that Superman represents kindness are outright admitting that they don't want to be good people

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How is kindness a bad thing? I thought that was universally agreed to be a good message to have in a piece of media. I guess the excuse is they don’t want media to have messages at all but like, how would you even have a movie where the hero has no values that they stand for?

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But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
For all the right wingers who think woke, pro immigrant superman is a new concept, reminder that this is a poster from the 1950s

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- Benedict_Espinosa@europe.pub ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Interestingly enough zero black people depicted, or any other races but white - just one dude with a dark orange complexion like the Mango Mussolini.
  
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  - Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    from this article:
    
    Another story from 1953 called “People are People” has a Black youngster holding off an escaped lion until Superman can capture the animal. The owner of the circus the lion has escaped from wants to congratulate a white boy for his (nonexistent) heroism until Superman points out that the heroic young man was Black, and that the circus owner only wanted to congratulate the white boy because he was prejudiced.
    
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  - starlinguk@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Ethnicities. “Race” is a shit expression.
    
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- Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Interesting article about the history of ‘socialist superman’ during the depression and the ideological evolution.
  
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A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Cause Americans are obsessed with Rugged Individualism.

If you are in trouble, you don’t accept help, much less ask for it. You pull yourself up by your bootstraps and turn your fortunes around with grit and determination using nothing more than the loose change in your pocket.

Thats how anyone that needs help became nothing more than social parasites leeching off the rugged individualistic success of their betters.

Thats why Americans, on the whole, have all but erased empathy and good will towards others.

Its why 1/3rd of the country actively votes for weak, pathetic fascists who poorly playact as strong man. Its why 1/3rd of the country didnt bother voting, because they have no problem with fasciatic strongmen punishing the weak and the other.

The New Religion of the American Orthodoxy is basically “Fuck you, Got Mine”.

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- ameancow@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Hyper-individualism is a much more modern idea that may have its roots in our founding but it was exploited by capitalism during the post-war financial boom last century.
  
  Before we had media showing us “how it should be” families lived together throughout their lives, communities helped each other and American towns pulled together and helped each other in a variety of ways. The whole idea of single-family homes was invented by the housing industry to get people to buy three to four times as many homes. To sell this they started leaning harder into the idea that you’re the protagonist, you specifically, you are special just for being American, you are special for wanting your own things (that are advertised to you) and so on.
  
  And before industrialized America and throughout the last several hundred MILLENNIA we were a communal species, it’s why we have so much contradictory hard-wiring that influences how we feel about our social standing, about other people’s feelings towards us, why there are so many people who latch onto authoritarians and fear strangers. These are ideas that run in direct opposition to “rugged individualism” and they are clear signs we’re not living the way we’ve been designed by literally millions of years of evolution.
  
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  - Zexks@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    You’re reciting history through rose colored glasses. The whole American dream has been to come here get some land of your own and go do your own thing.
    
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Walop@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
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FreePalestineCongo@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Billionaires like Peter Thiel have thought long and hard about why they can’t get everything they want. He has effectively said that his own policies would be so u popular that nobody would ever vote for them, but that he has found the internet to be an effective tool to sway populations.

So what about us makes the world so good that they can’t fulfil their darkest desires? Social cohesion, knowledge and empathy.

What have himself, Muskrat et all have inundated us with over the last few years is their “antidote” to that: stranger danger, disinformation and “empathy is weakness”. It’s the playbook of the billionaire psychopath and people don’t realise they are dancing to their tune.

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- OrteilGenou@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Interesting point! I’ve recently started thinking about the core message of Christ. It’s been misused and abused for millennia, but at its core it literally is “treat people like you would want them to treat you”.
  
  But if everyone thought that way, where would the support for war come from? How can we justify monstrous behavior for profit without figuring out ways to make the victims seem like different people than we are? Horrible people who deserve the violence!
  
  People have this ability to take the most constructive, beneficial and altruistic ideas and bend them to create victims and justify violence.
  
  This shit has been happening since the first person used a thunderclap to elicit a sacrifice. The new church is social media, and the new congregation is worldwide.
  
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  - CalipherJones@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Matthew 22:36-40 New International Version 36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
    
    37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
    
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givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Superman fighting the klan didn’t work because adults laughed at their hand signs and shit that were disclosed…

It’s because it got a generation of kids to see the klan as the bad guys

If Superman hated you, how the fuck were you going to indoctrinate your kid into the klan?

That’s why they’re always bitching about media. The people doing it are ignorant, but the ones telling them what to be mad about it are picking logical targets to fufil longterm goals.

It’s why fighting fascism is like losing weight, you can’t reach a goal and stop giving a fuck, it’s a lifestyle.

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- Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  It’s why fighting fascism is like losing weight, you can’t reach a goal and stop giving a fuck, it’s a lifestyle.
  
  Can confirm. 330lbs I said “I’ll reach 320.”
  
  At 320 I said I’ll reach 310.
  
  At 310 I said 300.
  
  At 300 I said 290.
  
  Then 280.
  
  I went back up to 250. Oh no no no no no. Fuck that shit. I’m going to see 240. And when I do, it’ll set my sights on 230.
  
  And when I see 230, I will hug someone. Because that will be 100lb.
  
  Which means I’ll look to 220.
  
  And then 210.
  
  And 200.
  
  I don’t know where my weight loss journey ends. I don’t know when I’ll feel at a healthy weight.
  
  I just know I hope my journey brings me to a day when I get to punch a nazi.
  
  Because nazi lives DON’T matter!
  
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  - whostosay@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    You’re gonna do it brudduh, don’t stop bettering yourself :)
    
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  - WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    The last thing you said is why I got one of my bans on Reddit. Fuck Reddit.
    
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  - reactionality@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Send a text when you hit 0!
    
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  - shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Well. Your journey took real strength. Ain’t that something? Keep fighting the good fight.
    
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  - j4k3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Just don’t think of it as a diet or oppressive. Make it a lifestyle. I’m still around 220 after 11 years of mostly stuck in bed. 16 years ago I was 350. A part of me wishes I was still 190 at 7%, but it is super hard for me to get that low. I just don’t have that kind of pain tolerance to deal with being light headed and hungry 24/7 while counting calories, eating constantly, but never meals or more than a few bites of dry salad or chicken. Without racing and riding like 400+ miles a week, I’m just not that kind of motivated. I’d much rather be lazy and eat meals with way too many calories at once but still far fewer than most people. I have no desire to binge or eat processed food of any kind any more. Avoiding dairy has also been super helpful too because that is a group at excuse to avoid most junk people make, fast food, or restaurants the few chances I ever get.
    
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  - KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    The only good fascist is the one buried in the earth.
    
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- Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Holy shit you’re right.
  
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- roofuskit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Fighting for freedom never ends.
  
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- jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  I completely agree it’s like loosing weight, at a certain point it becomes actively harmful.
  
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starlinguk@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Yeah, it’s amazing how many people think admitting to being an asshole is a flex.

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Rookwood@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I have a theory of society that is 30-30-30 based around a narcissistic spectrum. 30% of the population at any given time is narcissistic to some extent. They are conceited in their interactions with society.

We live in a time of decline. This is creating stress throughout the population. How people react to this stress shows their true character. The narcissistic leaning people, during these times of stress, look for scapegoats. If we just eliminate these types of people, we can go back to the good times. They are the fascists throughout history. When fascism and mindless violence rises during times of decline, it is due to this latent population, which is always there but only activated by the stress of decline.

The other groups are the 30% who are altruistic and cooperative. They interact with society by seeing what can be built by all and the value of different types of people. They have won the day too throughout history, but a society the averts disaster by coming together and rebuilding is just a society that continued to be successful. They are little noted as they do not bring the great calamities and destruction that get written down in the history books.

The final group are the 30% who are ambivalent. They don’t engage with politics in a meaningful way and have little willpower. They see life as a fate to be endured. Whichever way the wind blows, they will follow.

The balance determines which side wins. It is influenced by the power structures of the day, the zeitgeist and the strength of propaganda and the leaders of each side. It’s fairly clear which side is winning now and I don’t see the altruistic side coming to save the day any time soon.

Often times, when altruism does prevail, it is because someone with great courage that is a member of the existing power structure leads their cause. There are no such people at this time. Our power structure has blatantly embraced greed and sociopathy for 50 years now. Everyone who is successful now has been a part of that system and is thoroughly corrupted by it.

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- FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Good theory but the math is off, 30+30+30 only adds up to 90. What about the other 10%?
  
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  - Rookwood@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    The balance. It ebbs and flows with the cultural landscape of the times.
    
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sdcSpade@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Probably the same idiots who thought Homelander was a hero.

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- FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  I’ve been wondering if there are Trump supporters watching The Handmaid’s Tale and siding with Gilead
  
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  - Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    I’m sure they have watched it and made lots of notes.
    
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  - joel_feila@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Yes there are
    
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  - Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    too many words, not enough explosions
    
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- jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Homelander is a hero, just not to the public.
  
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  - SpaceShort@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    You didn’t even upvote your own comment. That’s how stupid it is.
    
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GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
this is what those people want.

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flop_leash_973@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
I like the Nathan Fillion comment during some red carpet interview when the interviewer was trying to egg him into saying something that would get rage clicks from one side or the other of the current political trash fire.

“its just a movie guys”

Superman was not a brooding edge lord until Snyder’s take, and it is obvious that a lot of people don’t know that.

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- SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Captain Hammer best superhero, who’s with me on this
  
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  - chaogomu@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    I so want a sequel to the sing along blog.
    
    Dr Horrible has become obsessed with reviving Penny by turning back time. He doesn’t care how many people need to die, because he believes he can “fix” things. But the risk of time travel is the destruction of the universe…
    
    Captain Hammer, now knowing what pain is, has two choices, grow and overcome the pain, or continue to hide away…
    
    And Penny. The multiple zombies, and clones, and computer simulations of Penny that were never “right”. Well, she too has her parts to play.
    
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Aetherion@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
It seems like Superman is the hero we deserve to fight this fascist trash sitting in the White House and beyond.

We need more of these positive representations, and god I’m so glad that almost every hateful right-winger cannot be creative with something other than hate.

This movie gives me hope, but I cannot speak for you.

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- eskimofry@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  we all think we deserve superman, but we only deserve freiza.
  
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- FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I haven’t seen the new Superman yet. I’m going on Tuesday cause that’s the cheap day where I live. I’m looking forward to it though. I found Captain America 4 cathartic, watching a black Captain America beat up and angry president. I think Superman will also be cathartic with what’s going on in America
  
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Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Conservatives are still mad that Superman fought the kkk.

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- FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Which is admitting they side with the kkk, isn’t it
  
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  - Wolf@lemmy.today ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Well, yeah. They aren’t exactly trying to hide their white supremacist tendencies anymore.
    
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- SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  If Superman were real, he 100% would have melted a lot of those racist fucks.
  
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  - ilinamorato@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    If you haven’t, I highly recommend reading “Superman Smashes the Klan.” An all-timer, based on a radio story from 1946, which was honestly its own kind of ballsy.
    
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MehBlah@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
They don’t have a movie but they have a show. Highlander is the perfect ‘hero’ for these people. Only even the dullest dullard in the magat pile fails to recognize the character is evil but they never consider they are the baddies.

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- ProfThadBach@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Highlander? I am not making the connection.
  
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  - MehBlah@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    I fixed it. It was supposed to be Homelander.
    
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  - SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    There can be only one!
    
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Unlocking_Freedom@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Their religion / tribal cult only wants to use the United States, forget about “Truth, Justice and the American way”, they want US soldiers to pay with their blood.

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Mangoholic@lemmy.ml ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Why batman is the worst superhero, just another billionaire…

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- Benedict_Espinosa@europe.pub ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Ironman is another billionaire.
  
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  - Mangoholic@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    At least he invents his own stuff unlike batman.
    
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  - Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Hollywood whitewashing billionaires…
    
    We won’t see a poor superhero anytime soon
    
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lIlIllIlIIIllIlIlII@lemmy.zip ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Kidness is woke. And you know, woke is bad because reasons.

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pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Nah kindness is Woke

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michaelvile@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
The cinematic-repubLkan-universe kindness is weakness… Good doesn’t pretend to be evil. But evil does pretend to be good…ffs, 'the list is on my desk…"

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brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I really don’t know how to convince people they should care about others.

I don’t know how to teach empathy.

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- ArrrborDAY@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  There’s an underlying care instinct that needs to be activated. Its emotional; you can’t explain it, they have to experience it… There was a post years ago supposedly describing the empathic awakening of a white supremacist, which occurred as he was waiting to harm or harass a father and son on a bus, and the moment of awakening happened as he witnessed the father expressing his love for his son and something clicked for him, probably because he wanted that sort of affection from his dad and never got it.
  
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- plyth@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  People care about their in-group. Make being human their main identity.
  
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  - Spacehooks@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    we can purge those filthy xenos from the galaxy!
    
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- KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  If you can’t learn empathy, learn to spite the enemies of empathy
  
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- andallthat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  A few slaps on the butt (assisted by a carpet beater when the occasion demands it) will usually do it. At least that’s how my mom did it with us.
  
  “You! Have! To be! Good! To! Your! Sister/neighbor/dog!”
  
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- SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  By exercising it at a young age in public schools.
  
  And judging those without more harshly.
  
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- funkyfarmington@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Captain Archer had some good ideas. Turns out he really doesn’t like bullies.
  
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- WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  That’s the thing, isn’t it? You either have empathy, or you are the other species. The one that can’t comprehend that there is anything wrong with them, but the world would be better off without them.
  
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  - leftytighty@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Empathy can absolutely develop over time. This rhetoric is not useful. Even dumb fucking right wing pieces of shit feel empathy when their in-group is affected.
    
    If hate can be learned so can empathy, what you’re suggesting is dehumanizing
    
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  - Demdaru@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Oh fuck off would ya? Every time I test my empathy, I am basically shown to be simply unemphatetic. Doesn’t make me a monster - simply instead of feeling something is wrong, I have to think shit through.
    
    And trust me, it’s even easier that way. Would I like someone to kick me? Maim me? Deport me? Does the net good outweight both the general consequence and the consequence for the other party? No? Then don’t fucking do it. Whether I like other party doesn’t take part in the process, which isn’t true for empathy.
    
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- MotoAsh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  You cannot. It’s either felt, or they’re shitspawn to be flushed.
  
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AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I only watched a cam-rip and stopped after Louis Lane “interviews” Superman which was painful to watch. The typical reporter tearing and deliberately misrepresenting or framing things in the dominant world order, every question a cut and propaganda criticizing people who disagree. It was kinda gaslighting, like “why did you attack our ally unprovoked?! Also some people are saying you’re an alien spy!”. Instead of asking questions to get the truth, they are loaded questions that can’t be answered without making yourself look bad.

What a total failures as a character introduction and makes her instantly an unlikeable removed. I mean holy shit is that bad storytelling. Or is that just me? If that is what you think a reporter should do, then don’t do it as a friend / girlfriend, and if that is how you see the world that you are not worthy of being the girlfriend of a hero like Superman. Because in my opinion you’re one of the villains in real life.

I do suspect this plays into why some people disliked superman. What people seek in these troubled times is strength. And they hate what tears strength down, seeking to control or subdue it or put it in it’s place in the proper order of things. They want someone to break things because deep down we all know the path we’re on right now leads downward (economic inequality, enshittification of products, appliances and services, climate change and environment, rising tensions, news and social media, post truth world). The people voting aren’t entirely wrong in just wanting to see the world burn.

There is a quote which I don’t know where it came from or remember well: “The samurai valued strength above anything else, because that is where all other values flow from”. Or differently: “The samurai believed that strength was the foundation of all values, as it enabled them to uphold honor, loyalty, and discipline.”

But our liberal world order sees strength as something that has to be separated, atomized, means tested and distributed into channels to control. Controlled by laws, bureaucracy or better yet, the dictates of capitalism, because it’s oh-so-efficient. I suspect right wingers like Homelander not because he’s a corporate product, but because he breaks out of that and goes rogue, and also rejects the “we must not kill anyone and obey the laws or we will be like the villains!” bullshit.

The cult of personality or hero worship represents a desire of people that someone comes and fixes all this shit and cuts through the red tape. Someone who has strength and the courage to use that strength, despite all the clever fucking shitty arguments and conventions to the contrary. Because we’ve heard it all before and it sounds so good but it’s clearly not working. Superhero movies are supposed to fulfill that wish and grand escapism into a world where our problems are magically solved. But recent movies (Marvel) failed to do that, instead pushing the failed real world fantasy of a liberal world order into the movies. Like the common trope of Washington and the government being fundamentally good and working well, except for a few bad apples, and as soon as you get the proof and give it to the good people or the newspapers, everything works out fine. Which is a painful reminder that it doesn’t in real life.

I suspect the “reactionary backlash” is not just about racism, it’s about the rejection of the distraction of identity politics - that if we only lean in more, if we accept different cultures, everything will be fine - because that is just distraction from the continued neoliberalism and disaster capitalism. But breaking things and bringing things to a head is also an opportunity - accelerationism.

These are just by jumbled thoughts on how this reflects on our culture war. Again, I haven’t watched the movie or read any of the right wing critiques, only seen the “liberal backlash to the backlash”. This controversy in itself is rather predictable and pisses me off. Like it’s a distraction in itself, a pair of two anger memes that complement each other perfectly are tossed into the ether to continue to keep us occupied.

Also after I stopped the movie I read some (serious) reviews and it’s also just a shitty movie.

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- ameancow@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  If you’re going to use a movie to deliver populism and morality, it better be a good movie or you’re just handing ammunition to the world’s worst piles of shit.
  
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  - AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Yeah the value of art is that it can express or show things about the world that are hard to express in words. And we desperately need a new way and clarity about the failure of the old ways, because that is what leads to the cynicism and hopelessness. So either keep politics out of it, or have a bloody brilliant take on politics that provides actual value.
    
    I quite like superhero movies as escapism, like a fantasy world where clear definitions of good vs evil exist. But I can’t stomach biopics or docudramas that mix this fantasy with real world propaganda, like some nostalgic fantasy about US politics or journalism any more. It feels like they all want to recreate the beautiful fantasy of Sorkin’s “The White House” or the classic thriller take of “a bad apple in a good system” but today that is a dangerous lie.
    
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ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
I’m curious how this movie is, I’m used to the older ones and a show called Smallvile.

I did not know there was some anger about this Superman movie. Anyone could quick give me a small summary?

Though bit bummed out that they keep remaking movies and shows instead of making new ones.

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- Revan343@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  
  Anyone could quick give me a small summary?
  
  James Gunn commented that Superman is an immigrant, and conservatives are losing their minds
  
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  - FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    People on Facebook are telling me he isn’t an immigrant, he’s from outer space. I’m so confused as to what they think an immigrant is
    
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    and conservatives are losing their minds
    
    “he can’t be! He isn’t brown!”
    
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  - Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    He also renounced his US citizenship in Action Comics #900 like 15 years ago.
    
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  - DarkMetatron@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    But that’s nothing new. In Smallville there is one episode in which Clark said to his mother Martha that he is an illegal alien too.
    
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  - Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    He also said that Superman is kind, and that bothered them too.
    
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- AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I 100% expected this movie to suck and was even saying up to its release that it would flop.
  
  I’ve seen all the Superman movies since the 80s. And all the TV shows.
  
  This is my favorite movie.
  
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- But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  This movie won me over when I saw Krypto and the fortress Bots. That’s the kind of stuff I’ve always wanted, but then idiots like Bryan Singer and Christopher Nolan (who clearly hate and are embarrassed by the source material) show up and want to make everything dark and “realistic” so characters like krypto don’t make it to the movies. Fuck realism, im watching a movie about a super alien fighting monsters, i don’t want realism in my comic book movies
  
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- Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/48819895
  
  Some conversations about it here
  
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biofaust@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
I just came out of watching the new movie.

In the scene in which Clark gets interviewed, seen also in the trailer, it is transparent that Superman is with Francesca Albanese on a very current issue.

That’s what they are mad about.

I guess WB/DC is gonna fall out of grace.

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renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

People angry that Superman represents kindness

Do these “people” exist? Is it just one troll, or a significant enough of a population to even give the slightest bit of thought?

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Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
This POS
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burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
zack snyder and cristopher nolan turned goofy do-gooder superheroes into unfeeling federal agents and gods we should be subservient to

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ideonek@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Did someone acctually expressed that thought?

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Lyrac@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
I’m out of the loop here. I’ve seen something about the most recent director or writer calling Superman an immigrant, and Dean Cain hating on that take and calling it “woke”. But I haven’t seen anyone expressing that Superman should not represent kindness.

FWIW if you are looking at reviews for an upcoming or recently released movies, and a lot of the comments are calling it “too political” or “woke”, give it a watch and come back with your own review. Those reviews are an indicator to me that it might be somewhat thought-provoking. (or also don’t watch if you have no interest in the subject)

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IWW4@lemmy.zip ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Yeah it’s really wild

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ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Being selfless, kind and peaceful even when powerful quite literally goes against the Western ethos and to deny it is to deny not only history but contemporary Western societies as well (from the neverending colonization of the world, native American genocide included, to the recent “empathy is a sin” take, lol).

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mp3@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
They don’t want Superman, they want Brightburn.

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