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Facts and minds

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Submitted ⁨⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨zedgeist@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨aboringdystopia@lemmy.world⁩

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  • WanderingThoughts@europe.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    One study I found is where they let people (their control group) check some data about effectiveness of a certain shampoo. They all found the correct answer. Then they let people do the exercise with the exact same data but said it was about gun control. Suddenly a part of the participants failed at basic math and had a lot of rationalizations.

    Some folks will not just accept any fact or data that goes against a belief held by their peer group. Giving facts will even be seen as a personal attack.

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  • jsomae@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    well he was in a bit of a bind. If this had changed his mind, what would that say?

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  • loomy@lemy.lol ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    it matters a lot how the information is presented

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    • neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s really it!

      If it is a combative exchange neither side will concede.

      It’s better to pretend to be ignorant or on their side and then ask questions that lead them to the truth you want them to see.

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      • Tahl_eN@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I actually react well to combative. Not right away, but it puts me into a “I’ll show you” mood that drives me down a rabbit hole of research. If you’re right, I come out the other side with the data and admit I was wrong. But I assume I’m not normal.

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      • henfredemars@infosec.pub ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        This is a sign of emotional intelligence. When people get emotionally invested in their argument, they don’t want to lose, and they often won’t let themselves believe they can even lose even when they have.

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      • pennomi@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That’s both the strength and horror of LLMs. They are super good at presenting information in a pleasing way to the user… but can you trust that what it says is correct?

        To the majority of humans, a pleasing presentation is treated as evidence of truth, despite that being a logical fallacy.

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    • Quadhammer@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s just like your opinion, man

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  • NerdInSuspenders@leminal.space ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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  • lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Things are more complicated than that. You have the guy you argue with who won’t admit they’re wrong but maybe in the aftermath will shift their opinion a little and after many discussions like that agree with you. Than there are many passive bystanders, undecided and won’t comment but maybe find your point more persuasive

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  • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I onde read a pluralistic article about this where he linked apaper that the backfiring effect was supposedly a fluke.

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  • deathbird@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Without seeing the studies, it’s hard to know if they were good studies that support her position or not.

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  • IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    however, if he did change his mind, you would need wrong

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