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Gemini will now automatically summarize your long emails unless you opt out

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Pro@programming.dev⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://workspaceupdates.googleblog.com/2025/05/gemini-summary-cards-gmail-app.html?m=1

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  • dinckelman@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why is it never the other way around? I’m sick of EULA updates silently enrolling me into things i never asked for

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    • Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They are asking for legal trouble anyway, at least in Europe

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      • dinckelman@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        And we’ll just watch them either get slapped by an insignificant fine, or watch them weasel their way out of this again, by claiming they made you agree to some perpetual abandonment of rights, like they always do

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      • dreugeworst@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        it says you need to hace smart features on for this to work. I went looking for how to turno it off, but aparentoy in the EU, UK, Japan and others it’s off by default

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    • spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Plus the options are frequently hidden and unclear.

      I thought disabling One Drive on my Windows machine would keep it from syncing to the cloud. Nope, it just changed where the files were stored but Windows copies it to One Drive even when One Drive isn’t running.

      In the case of google, I assume that turning off the Gemini bullshit doesn’t have any impact on it copying all the content to their servers even if you don’t see it happening.

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      • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        but Windows copies it to One Drive even when One Drive isn’t running.

        I don’t understand why users and our justice system let them get away with this. This is malicious. Your operating system is literally literally malware. It does not respect your choices and it steals your information.

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    • UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Maybe the even more important question: Why can you even opt out? Why is this not done on-device, without anything going anywhere to begin with?

      I mean, I know the answer, you know the answer, everyone knows the answer. If this was truly privacy preserving, there would be no need to opt out.

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    • acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      ot shove it in people’s faces who would never go out of their way to turn it on.

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    • dumbpotato@lemmy.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s part of the abuse.

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    • refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      As Louis Rossmann likes to say, this is a rapist mentality.

      Ask for forgiveness instead of permission.

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  • Maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    A single message now generates 20 different summaries and analyses, requiring a rack of GPUs and a diesel generator.

    We’re so lucky that electricity is unlimited and free, otherwise it might’ve caused a serious problem.

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    • kshade@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Don’t worry, this stuff is why companies like Google want to build and run their own nuclear power plants. What could possibly go wrong?

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  • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Most email is short. I don’t see a need to summarize it. Google is run by idiots and assholes.

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    • Evotech@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ai will write complicated long mails, you’ll need an Ai to summarise it

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      • kazerniel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Image

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If an email needs to be summarized, I’m not going to read it anyway.

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    • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      ive actually used it at work for stuff like “when did Wendy approve the design? did she send it to brian?” when I have 5 different email threads over 3 different organizations, with 10 different respondees. But in personal use I would never.

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      • dermanus@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        If mine could do that “find me the approval email for x last week” I’d use it, but if outlook had a decent search I wouldn’t need it.

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      • Ushmel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’d settle for AI clipping out everyone’s redundant signatures, .gif logos, comic sans bible quotes, and everything else packed into email that people use as direct messaging. Or my coworkers could just use WebEx for chats instead of emails.

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    • iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I put a tl;dr sentence or two at the top of any e-mail more than a couple of paragraphs. Sometimes for those too.

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  • homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Eat more AI! We’ve spent hundreds of billions of dollars on this fucking garbage, so EAT IT! Yeah! It’s in your email! It’s in your car! IT’S IN YOUR TEETH (launch date: Q2 2026)!

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    • glaber@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You jest, but I’ve already seen “AI-powered” toothbrushes on shelves. Let’s give even more health data to corporate giants!

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  • ikidd@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You go ahead and waste resources on summarizing the 200 emails a day in my spam account, you fucking morons.

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    • winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I agree fuck Google but also poor earth :(

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  • secret300@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How the hell can they even afford that?! There are so many Gmail users and so many emails a second and Gemini will summarize them all? That sounds so expensive and like a waste of resources

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    • TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It is, but the bubble mustn’t burst or the grifters will stop making money selling “the end of skilled labor” to braindead capitalists.

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      • dumbpotato@lemmy.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Actually, investment in AI is necessary for competing with other nations.

        The “end of skilled labor” selling point is just to cover up that fact that we need AI because other nations will have it.

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    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Google makes a lot of money, and summarising stuff uses a surprisingly small amount of energy. You can do it trivially on-device on a laptop and on plenty of phones.

      When it comes to LLMs, training the models is generally the thing that requires ridiculous amounts of energy.

      This is dumb as fuck, though. I don’t want Google’s LLM to miss out critical details in my emails. That shit could be important. If people want this they should opt in.

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    • doodledup@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They probably use a smaller model for summarizing.

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  • manxu@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It's so weird that we have to go through hoops and loops to get rid of this stuff! I was sick of my Android responding to a long press of the power button, meant to shut it down, with a Gemini prompt. Took me an hour to figure out I can't get rid of the function, but I can switch back (for now) to old style Google Assistant.

    If you have to force functionality down your users' throat despite them not wanting it, you already lost. Gemini is Google's Clippy, just less iconic and more also-ran.

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    • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If you have to force functionality down your users’ throat despite them not wanting it, you already lost.

      As much as I’d like to think so, they’re not stupid, they know what they’re doing. They cram it in your face to make sure you know it’s there. And most people don’t care.

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  • OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Unless I opt out of Gmail? Yep, already done.

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    • hddsx@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Meh. I can’t find a good sub for YouTube and Gmail is my “uh oh did I mess up my email server back”.

      I’ve been considering hush mail. I don’t like Europe. I’d rather move to Canadian

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      • muusemuuse@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Canada isn’t going to be a safe bet in the long run. They have a reprieve for now but they always end up doing whatever America does just a few years later.

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  • cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    1. buy domain

    2. buy hosting

    3. get email

    4. use thunderbird

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    • iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I run my own email and I have to say I wouldn’t recommend it.

      The biggest hassle is dealing with either Spamhaus or Microsoft, who apparently at random decide to put my IPs on blacklist, and who provide hurdles to working around this (for Spamhaus) or just say “no” (for Microsoft).

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    • mrpres@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Would having aliases be a good way to bypass when a website denies your emails from your domain (which is known occurrence for who self-hosts their own email system)?

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    • kokomo@lemmy.kokomo.cloud ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Mega brain move right here. Combined with a multitude of open source web mail clients and ur golden. SOGo and roundcube my beloved.

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      • mrpres@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        solid recommendations roundcube is goat

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      • cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        that takes me back to mid 2000s and horde webmail :)

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    • atlien51@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Your new dentist/GP practice when you try to sign up?

      @ Thunderbird? What is that?

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  • sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    More opt outs… Everyone, just opt out of big tech

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    • Jimmycakes@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      We should opt into little tech. A guy in Venezuela just trying to buy a couple days food will read your email and summarize it for you!

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      • greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This made me think of the South Park episode where they’re hiring people to replace the Amazon Alexa and stuff.

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  • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    In reply to all of the complaints here: I’ve never seen anything about Gemini on my Graphene OS device. 🤷‍♂️

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    • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But your recipient uses it.

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      • null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Exactly.

        Communication with people is hard enough already without an LLM deciding what parts are important.

        Idiots using LLMs to write emails to people using LLMs to summarise them. It’s just slop all the way down.

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    • TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m surprised so many people who probably use Linux use a stock operating system on their phones

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      • zqps@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Despite efforts to the contrary, PC is still an inherently far more open platform than any mobile device.

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  • doodledup@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why would you use Gmail in the first place?

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    • dumbpotato@lemmy.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I have been moving away from all of the big name companies for big name products.

      It’s a shame, because I used to be very supportive of Google.

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      • jjlinux@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Ex-Google fan boy here. Been riding the fuck Google wagon for about 7 years now, no regrets, and certain I’m missing out on absolutely nothing. Moving away from all these self-serving BS “tech giants” is the smartest and healthiest move anyone can do.

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    • kazerniel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Do any other email services/clients have a very similar search function? Where I can search for date ranges and email sizes in addition to the more typical operators.

      At my workplace I have to deal with Outlook, and it’s a pile of crap in comparison.

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      • doodledup@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Use Thunderbird as a client with any email service. Thunderbird has all the features you want.

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    • 6nk06@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I have a Google account at work with the domain name of the company. The AI is annoying and I wished they used something else.

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  • Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So this is why I got an email that was completely wrong.

    I told a guy I used to work for that I moved and it’s the perfect place to help him and his company.

    He replied that he hopes I found a house where I used to live.

    wtf it’s like he never read the email at all, now that this AI trash was added, the email makes sense.

    I guess he is fucked and doesn’t get the help he needs for his company.

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  • BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Cool, how do I disable this shit feature?

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    • donalonzo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Stop using the shit service.

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  • kazerniel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ok this is the first step where I feel an actual urge to look for Gmail alternatives. I’m a desktop-only Gmail user, but I can see where this is going… :/ Also heavy user of Google Drive and Sheets, so it’s going to be annoying if I have to replace all of them :/

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    • 6nk06@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      For me it was: Gmail to Tuta, Drive to Filen.io (some cheap German guys). But Sheets would be the most difficult. Maybe Zoho or Infomaniak? Infomaniak has the complete package IIRC.

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      • kazerniel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        thanks, I’ll check them out!

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  • killeronthecorner@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Turned off by default in EEA, UK, Japan and Switzerland, for anyone interested (had to login to find out).

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    • mrpres@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Anyone wondering what they have in common: EU (i know its not the same as EEA, there are countries like Iceland non-member of EU but part of EEA and they have their own GDPR through their own Private Act) has GDPR, Japan has APPI, UK has UK-GDPR, Switzerland has FADP

      Whats intriguing is that Canada has DCIA and Brazil has LGPD and I don’t see it being mentioned to be turned off by default in either countries

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  • Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s ok :) All my important mails go to proton

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  • Scolding7300@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    End users: To access Gemini summary cards, users need to have smart features and personalization smart features in Gmail, Chat, and Meet and smart features in Google Workspace turned on. Visit the Help Center to learn more about collaborating with Gemini in Gmail.

    Sounds like it’s an opt in, what am I missing

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  • cygnus@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    FWIW I use Fastmail and it works great.

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  • biofaust@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And that’s why I set up forwarding from Gmail and Outlook to my new Tuta account.

    In a few months I should be free, happily paying for EU alternative were the default swipe gesture stands for delete instead of archive.

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  • nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    buy a computer
    put my data in there
    computer computes my data too much

    FUCK

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  • reksas@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Would opting out actually do anything here except keep you from using the feature? Pretty certainly they will still let the ai read your emails if there is any benefit to google in it, but you just wont be seeing the summary.

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  • InnerScientist@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    in the Gmail app on Android and iOS devices

    At least it isn’t my turn yet

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  • lepinkainen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The only place I’d want AI summaries is rambling YouTube videos

    Make it a premium subscription extra

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  • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How long before people get complaints about something said in the summary which is incorrect?

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  • bluewing@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Gemini has popped up pnce since it became a thing. I simply clicked no and it’s gone away. So hopefully it stays away.

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  • Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Consider me opted

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