do you think freewill truly exists?
Submitted 4 days ago by Goku@sh.itjust.works to [deleted]
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Shardikprime@lemmy.world 4 days ago
ynthrepic@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Daily life is what daily life is all about.
I do think I’d potentially be happier with a partner who I could speak philosophy and politics with, but if we couldn’t also function simply navigating running a household and raising our family, then we really couldn’t be anything more than friends with benefits long term. Not that that would be a bad thing. It just depends on how you want to move your life.
TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Shit got real in the shit post sub.
milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Between neurological relationship building, and predetermination, there’s much to talk about!
Also, how’s the weather in your area today? It’s sunny with quite a wind here; had a spot of rain earlier.
TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 3 days ago
It’s been pristine here! Just perfect weather. Sunny and about 75.
I was, as a teenager, a person who hated small talk. Looking back, the big things I wanted to talk about were and are important to me, but I realize that I like listening to people’s thinking and let them vibe where they feel heard and happy!
ameancow@lemmy.world 3 days ago
This is a surprisingly powerful topic for a lot of people*
those people particularly being the ends of the spectrum between “people who discovered how easy it is to get people to like you” and "angry introverts who don’t want to change.
Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 4 days ago
My partner and I both understand that free will doesn’t exist but it’s better for everyone if we pretend it does. And yes, a lot of our conversations are a bit like that.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 days ago
Free will is the choice. Just because “particles have rules, you’re made of particles” doesn’t mean you didn’t have a choice. It’s just that the thing we’ve been calling “free will” is a little different than we thought.
0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
I know that free will doesn’t exist and I wouldn’t choose to have it any other way
milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Too bad. I chose for free will to exist, and I’m happy with my decision.
milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Too bad you don’t have the free will to change that ;-)
SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
My partner and I have surprisingly little in common when it comes to interests. I like a lot of nerd stuff: homelab, 3d printing, robotics, brewing, welding, woodworking, sci-fi, etc. They like not nerd stuff: copaganda shows, murder porn (podcasts and documentaries), dog training, cooking, etc. I like metal, they like jangly indie, we both like punk. We both love cats.
We also both hate small talk, so we only discuss what we find to be pertinent or interesting. Since we have a lot of individual interests, we actually have a lot to talk about. We just had a really great conversation on using Docker or a VM to circumvent some silly online testing issues.
sfxrlz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
Small talk != big talk
Bonsoir@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
I would even say: Big talk > small talk
EvolvedTurtle@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I mean You can hate small talk with strangers and co workers but still enjoy small talk with your partner
milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 3 days ago
“How’s the weather, Bob?”
“Please! My wife asks me that in the bedroom! Not you, here, at the water cooler.”
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 4 days ago
I love these sorts of conversations.
tetris11@feddit.uk 3 days ago
Alright: for how much money would you eat a teaspoon of shit?
orize@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
I would eat shit for a down payment of the house I would want and manage to pay back with interest.
hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 days ago
Pretty much yeah.
Tattorack@lemmy.world 3 days ago
But that would be great! Let’s start an awesome exploration of a very existential topic. Certainly better and more interesting that talking about shopping.
milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Well, but if the other person did some shopping, do you care how it went? They might.
“How was the shopping?”
“Ugh, this idiot cut me off in the aisles so many times, I feel so frustrated.”
“Yeah, I know what you mean. Like, does his existence even matter? Perhaps he’s a figment of our collective imagination. It’s so maddening to think your own brain is creating fictions that cut you off in the aisle.”
“I know, right? It made me wonder what if I’m the figment in his imagination! It’s such a depressing thought. I need a hug.”
*hug*
minorkeys@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Only for those who spend time engaged with existential topics rather than shopping though.
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 4 days ago
There is nothing wrong with silence, also my partner and I always have something to talk about that isn’t small talk. We have been together for 22 yrs. We have a lifetimes worth of shared experiences to converse about.
praxis_jack@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Yes.
Novice_Idiot@lemmy.wtf 3 days ago
Nope. Free will is an illusion that we have because we live in a world that’s too complex to predict. We are a product of our circumstance.
saltnotsugar@lemm.ee 4 days ago
Hey baby I brought home some dinner-
“Husband. Thy presence brings thoughts of philosophical questions.”
Alright. I’m just gonna eat this burrito though.spankmonkey@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Alright. I’m just gonna eat this burrito though.
But is that becsuse you are choosing to, or because of destiny?
Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
It’s because the burrito is getting cold.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
Well see life itself is a burrito. If you don’t make sure you have cheese and sour cream, well seasoned proteins, beans the way you like, delicious rice, maybe a bit of salsa and always hot sauce it just isn’t fulfilled.
Some people are happy with spicier sarcasm in their lives, others more mild. But if you don’t have a good foundation to wrap it all up in it’ll fall to pieces.
It’s not deep, it’s just a burrito
exasperation@lemm.ee 4 days ago
I’m just gonna eat this burrito though.
But pray tell doth the burrito quality as a sandwich
minorkeys@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Need for small talk suggests the contents of your thoughts revolves around topics and depth of thought suitable for small talk, I wish you the best in finding someone similar who can appreciate its value to your life. I’ll be elsewhere and hope you wish me the same luck.
milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 3 days ago
I’m afraid you’ve missed the point. Smalltalk is about maintaining and strengthening relationship, which involves knowing about each others’ lives and feelings. And it does double duty: taking the time to ask and listen is a way to express that the other person is important enough to you - i.e. to express love.
It’s not the only way, and many of us don’t do well at smalltalk, but it’s a valuable way. And,
your thoughts revolves around topics and depth of thought suitable for small talk
Indeed! It means your thoughts have time for the other person’s life and feelings.
minorkeys@lemmy.world 3 days ago
For many, small talk does not strengthen or maintain a relationship. It is something that works for some people. Others endure it for the sake of the one who does but it doesn’t hold the same role for them and is not a necessity to have a loving and healthy relationship for everyone. Just as we express and receive love differently, small talk doesn’t serve the same role in everyone’s life. If it does for you, that’s great, hopefully you’re getting what you need.
As for the double duty, that is true of all communication, whether small or not. As noted above, it may be an expression of love for some people, but it’s far from universal.
Not everyone finds the smaller, and often repetitive, experiences of their day to be important or valuable and people are perfectly capable of having time for the other person’s life and feelings without the focus being those topics or experiences.
It sounds like you value smalltalk in your life but may not accept that it isn’t as widespread as you seem to imply. I don’t doubt it does what you claim for yourself and others you know.
CalipherJones@lemmy.world 3 days ago
In this moment you are euphoric.
LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Hi honey did you see today’s shitposts memes?
Psionicsickness@reddthat.com 4 days ago
Why the fuck does everyone want to be in sustained meaningful relationships?
loonsun@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Because relatedness is a fundamental psychological need and sustained meaningful relationships are the best way to achieve that
Psionicsickness@reddthat.com 3 days ago
Can get that from a chat at the bar. Sustained meaningful relationships are the best way to lead to depression and severe physiological trauma. Fuck that shit.
milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Because they’re wonderful! And because you love someone.
Yeah, they can also go horribly wrong. I think that’s true of just about everything good - the more good it is, the worse it hurts when it goes wrong. But get it right, and it’s amazing.
qarbone@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I think everyone needs to recalibrate what ‘small talk’ is.
Some people are acting so opposed to small talk, as if it requires writing an essay on why you love a list of pop culture influencers and reality stars.
yesman@lemmy.world 4 days ago
So this person thinks they can choose small talk? curious.
doingthestuff@lemy.lol 3 days ago
My speech is deep. My beard is neck.
Sabata11792@ani.social 4 days ago
Bold of you to assume I can form and maintain a relationship.
plyth@feddit.org 4 days ago
The couples that argue all the time, they hate smalltalk. Just tell him to bring out the trash.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Kinda just hoping they love me for who I am and not some forced version of myself that makes me feel like a complete ass.
socsa@piefed.social 4 days ago
I mean yeah kind of. I like having these kinds of conversations far more than boilerplate smalltalk.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today 4 days ago
Do you… Like stuff?
socsa@piefed.social 4 days ago
Not really. I'm pretty obnoxious, but I own it.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 days ago
We would share comfortable silences and not feel the need to talk at all.
barsoap@lemm.ee 4 days ago
To a (modern) compatibilist, free will is the capacity to respond to the same stimulus with different reactions, i.e. it’s equivalent to the cybernetic concept of degrees of freedom. As such, answer:
“You can poke a ball-point pen and it’s going to do the same thing, over and over again: Extend and retract the lead. It is predictable because its internal complexity is below the threshold of chaos.” Then proceed to poke them in the arm to see how many reactions they have to that. Mentally prepare for a tickle fight.
obvs@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I don’t think it matters.
I honestly don’t think it’s a meaningful question.
YoFrodo@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Man I really hate AI ‘upscaled’ images like this. It still looks bad! A JPEG artifact image and an AI ‘shitscaled’ image are both shit, just in different ways.
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 4 days ago
And upscaling and image of text of all things, you could write out the text in less time than it would take to do this dumb upscaling shit.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 3 days ago
No small talk only big talk
genevieve@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
Spouse and I ponder the mysteries of life and the universe while we’re cuddling.
milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Sounds pretty good :-)