americans LOVE enshittifications.
Discord unveils Discord Orbs, a new in-app currency that users can earn by completing Quests, which reward participants who interact with ads
Submitted 10 months ago by Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
https://discord.com/blog/checkpoint-3-leveling-up-discord-quests-with-orbs-and-advanced-measurement
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yournamehere@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Zacryon@feddit.org 10 months ago
What a funny coincidence that I’ve hear about this discord alternative in a post just a couple before this one in feed.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Online startup software developer life cycle in a nutshell:
- Geeks are in charge, you’re creating a cool communications platform.
- Accounts are in charge, you’re gamifying ad clicks.
carp1@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Peter Sellis can take those Orbs and shove them up his Ass I don’t want this shit!
friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Oooh yeah, dust off the hotline auto clickers.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
The lesson of Pay-To-Surf will keep being taught by reality until it gets taught in business school.
YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Wel there goes my discord account. Bye you won’t be missed
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Realistically tho, until participation becomes mandatory you can ignore quests and orbs and just keep doing what you’re doing.
Natanael@infosec.pub 10 months ago
“please ponder your verification orb”
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Nah, switching takes time. Better start now.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
The end is coming
Sivilian@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
How do I bot this so I don’t see the ads and get free nitro so ads are removed?
roserose56@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
No need, use discord canary.
MacStache@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
How in the hell has that app gone so far down? This must be a record in enshittification.
dumbpotato@lemmy.cafe 10 months ago
Yeah, di$cord has definitely been speedrunning the deterioration of their platform.]
It’s a shame because they started as a darling of the gaming community with a lot of loyalty when people were switching to micro$hit like $lack and team$.
I guess capitalism and endless growth don’t actual translate to improved products for the rest of us. Go figure.
KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
Well they changed CEOs a month ago
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
It’s over
twice_hatch@midwest.social 10 months ago
Mark my words, any free service that hosts images is on the cycle. I saw it happen to Reddit and Imgur
Promising to host everyone’s data for free forever is a promise that only a devil at a crossroads can make
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Don’t forget to tip your instance admins!
13igTyme@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I warned my friends that Discord is looking to go public. Just wait, it’s going to get a lot worse.
chunes@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I don’t know if you saw the news last month but Discord just replaced a founder with a former Activision-Blizzard exec as CEO.
untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
how good of an alternative is matrix to discord?
swelter_spark@reddthat.com 10 months ago
I like it, personally, but I don’t use voice chat.
MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
Not great. It’s missing discord features like screen sharing and voice rooms (only sort of has them through a third party app, Jitsi, but that experience is… not great).
It also has moderation issues, lacking tools needed to keep spam out and easily control it when it does get in.
I recently deleted my account because there was a spam wave sending out room invites to anti-trans named rooms, and there’s no way to mass ignore, you have to click on every invite, click ‘ignore’ and wait like 15-30 seconds for the server to process.
Related to the above it has performance issues, a lot of UI actions just have a delay to them making the user experience feel really crummy.
dumbpotato@lemmy.cafe 10 months ago
Matrix suffers from some pretty poor design decisions and implementations.
I expect its flaws to get ironed-out over the years, but right now people switching from discord to matrix will find their experience severely lacking.
To give some examples, video chatting is not as inuititive in matrix. You can’t even test it on your own without being in a server with specific permissions that allow you to use your camera when nobody else is around. Really fucking stupid design decision.
Another example is the lack of channels. It’s mind-boggling to me how they’re not implemented yet. Matrix will never be competitive with discord until that changes.
tatann@lemm.ee 10 months ago
I made a few friends switch earlier this year and for our use case it works
Minding we only need a text chat during the day for shitposts, cat GIFs, and the occasional “Gaming tonight ?” “Fuck yeah” “For the Emperor !”
Then we use it for voice chat during the gaming session
To be honest, I don’t think we could have switch if they weren’t a bit tech-savvy and willing to struggle a bit with the encryption at first (but now it’s setted, it works with no issue)
TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Not as feature rich, quite buggy, inherently more private but also less usable.
The above compounds when trying to get the non-techies to use it, because sometimes it doesn’t just work
Hawk@lemmynsfw.com 10 months ago
Unfortunately, the official desktop app is essentially unusable.
Fractal is pretty good but less features.
2910000@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Started running a homeserver recently, trying to get non-techy friends to join, can confirm this is difficult (the main one right now being people using old software on their phones, one friend was running iOS 14 for crying out loud)
Once set up I find it OK as a user
viking@infosec.pub 10 months ago
Fuck this shit.
LodeMike@lemmy.today 10 months ago
dumbpotato@lemmy.cafe 10 months ago
You know, I’ve seen this image at least 15 years ago and thought it was a joke.
Now that I’m older now, I’m guessing this is an actual diagram for implementing and perhaps patenting interactive commercials?
We literally reward people in our society for being as shitty as possible. Can we stop doing that?
LodeMike@lemmy.today 10 months ago
Yes, this is real.
markovs_gun@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’m waiting for the day we get the Black Mirror technology where the ad stops playing when you look away and doesn’t start again until you look back at it, forcing you to watch the entire ad all the way through
twice_hatch@midwest.social 10 months ago
And the ad is like my dead mom selling me dick pills
Event_Horizon@lemmy.world 10 months ago
🤢🤮
drmoose@lemmy.world 10 months ago
enshittification is full force now
Psaldorn@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Chortle my orbs
fnrir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
Leave Zenyatta alone, Discord >:(
shiroininja@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Jesus Christ (● ˃̶͈̀ロ˂̶͈́)੭ꠥ⁾⁾.
There is one community I’m active in on Discord, and it’s a very wholesome and positive one id hate to lose, but damn I’m hating Discord.
Is there a CLI Discord client for Linux? I could tolerate that.
auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
You can host your own matrix instance then bridge discord (and everything else from LinkedIn messenger to WhatsApp) to matrix with double puppeting so people won’t even realise you’re not on discord.
shiroininja@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Hmmmmmm that is an option. I am a user of matrix
Mwa@lemm.ee 10 months ago
I wish I can use Matrix discord is probably the last privacy invasive app I use (for my friends mainly)
Libra@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
Next thing you know the ‘orbs’ will be NFTs and we’ll all be expected to grind away at their ‘quests’ (probably training AI) to earn ‘real money’.
58008@lemmy.world 10 months ago
RIP Discord.
drislands@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Is there a peer to peer equivalent to Discord? That feels like it would be the best option, since it wouldn’t rely on a centralized company that could enshittify the product.
solrize@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
I’ve never used Discord – is it similar to Mumble? I tried Jami but found it too unreliable to recommend.
drislands@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It serves the key purpose of Mumble, in that it provides a reliable way to get in a voice chat with people. The other features (text chat, video calls, screen sharing, “servers” that let people aggregate for a dedicated purpose/community) come together to make a legitimately good product that’s hard to replace.
derin@lemmy.beru.co 10 months ago
Only option available is Matrix. It has its problems, but they’re being worked on.
Right now it lacks the gaming/voice chat parts of discord - so for an OSS alternative for that part of discord specifically, there’s Mumble.
For everything else, Matrix is a good alternative. Just be sure to pick a discord-like client. (E.g. Commet or Cinny)
msage@programming.dev 10 months ago
I use Jitsi for my voip / screen share
rdri@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Seems like you have to keep something running for it to work. Some obscure service relied on it as a support channel and last thing I remember is that matrix server stopped working. Though it would help so much if it would be p2p.
Libra@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
Damn, I’ve been thinking about checking it out, but if it doesn’t do voice at all (and I would also really like streaming) it’s just not worth it to me. Text chat is nice, but I spend 2-3 hours evenings hanging out in voice with friends and I don’t want to lose that. Messing with two separate apps is just not worth it atm, so I’ma keep steadfastly ignoring Discord’s bullshit until Matrix is where I need it to be to switch. Although then the problem will be getting everyone else to switch, of course.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
That’s what we’ve started using my friends and I, can’t complain, sure it doesn’t integrate all the gaming shit but just have it running in the background so we can talk anyway
tabular@lemmy.world 10 months ago
🤢
Goretantath@lemm.ee 10 months ago
“Here little monkey, get your food pellet!”
ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Hopefully Revolt (a Fediverse alternative to Discord) continues to improve and can completely take the place of Discord relatively soon.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 10 months ago
I’m open to using non-federated software. I think federation is cool and useful but I don’t see it as necessary in any way when choosing what to use.
The biggest things are features, existing username, and/or ease of getting my friends on it. User base size is why I didn’t use Mastodon for niche hobbies of mine.
n3cr0@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Afaik it’s a fork / copy of the actual Discord source code. With all its bugs
usernameusername@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Kayday@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’ll check it out! Even without being federated, it’s good to have a discord alternative. Matrix hasn’t been what I need yet, unfortunately.
ozoned@piefed.social 10 months ago
Matrix via Element works great for me personally and it's available now. :-D
Hack3900@lemy.lol 10 months ago
I don’t think Revolt is Fediverse, afaik it’s entirely centralized without plans for interop or federation
Please update me if I just didn’t find the right referenceunderline960@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
As of right now, Revolt does not feature any federation and it is not in our feature roadmap.
However, this does not necessarily mean federation is off the table, possible avenues are:
- Implement our own federation protocol
- Implement a promising up and coming federation protocol, polyproto
- Implement the Matrix protocol (unlikely, obtuse and unstable)
- Implement the XMPP protocol (battle-tested and stable)
NGnius@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Is Revolt federated? I thought it was only FOSS
ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Oh maybe it is only FOSS.
Ilixtze@lemm.ee 10 months ago
pondering my uninstalling discord
ozoned@piefed.social 10 months ago
Happy to have folks on e2ee matrix. It supports calling directly and group voice and video chat rooms quite well IMO. :-)
Ilixtze@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Thanks for the suggestion; I’ll download right away. =D
derin@lemmy.beru.co 10 months ago
God, I just wish they’d add a fucking Push to Talk option to a client… Any client 😅
ozoned@piefed.social 10 months ago
This has been tried and tried again. The first time I remember seeing this was in the '90's where a "free" dial up ISP was trying this. NetZero maybe? Didn't work then, won't work now. They'll pay out so little it won't be worth it. Don't do it kids!
themachine@lemm.ee 10 months ago
I basically had an adblocker for netzero making it a free service. Was super useful for my broke teenage ass.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I admittedly haven’t looked very hard for an alternative. But I fully expect to be forced to move elsewhere in the next year or two due to their increasingly belligerent chasing of profits.
chunes@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It feels like literally the entire open source and games communities are on discord. Will they move too? I care about that even more than my DMs.
gian@lemmy.grys.it 10 months ago
They were on IRC before and on a number of other chats systems before that.
They will move as soon as something better will come out, for various definitions of better
auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
The replacement is matrix.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
Yikes, hope matrix really improves soon.
Libra@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
increasingly belligerent chasing of profits.
The word you’re looking for is enshittification.
Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
I thought it was called capitalism.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 months ago
What genuinely confuses me is who they’re finding to buy this shit to begin with.
I’ve seen so many of these failed “Join our club to score points to get tokens to buy virtual dongles that you can use to get into our more-elite clubs with better points and color tokens” schemes over the last ten years. It’s like everyone wants to be Chuck-E-Cheese, nevermind that the company went bankrupt five years ago.
drislands@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It is a bit baffling. I think it’s more ethical than the alternative though: pay gating useful functionality. Offering paid pallete swaps doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, someone who would never pay for that, but it does at least mean I can just ignore it. If they were to, say, restrict voice calls to a paid subscription, suddenly I’m in a position where either I’m paying for the service or ditching it entirely.
MysticKetchup@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Oh it’s undoubtedly going to fail, but it should milk enough money out of their users to keep them going while their investors cash out
NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
Wanna see my orbs on discord?
TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
They truly have zero clue how users actually use their software. Not a single person is going to use this just like every other stupid gimmick feature they’ve added in the past and then promptly removed.
baronvonj@lemmy.world 10 months ago
pyre@lemmy.world 10 months ago
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