derin
@derin@lemmy.beru.co
- Comment on Now this is how you do pride month, take notes AAA devs 1 day ago:
OP is a fan of a game, and is excited for its release. So excited that OP is making in-jokes from that game’s fan-community without regard for whether the references are understood or not.
- Comment on Escape Simulator drops the Linux build to focus on supporting Proton 1 week ago:
Completely reasonable
- Comment on Discord unveils Discord Orbs, a new in-app currency that users can earn by completing Quests, which reward participants who interact with ads 1 week ago:
It doesn’t.
It has features for video/voice calling - E.g. Background blurring and stuff like that. It just lacks the stuff that would make it usable for gaming.
- Comment on Discord unveils Discord Orbs, a new in-app currency that users can earn by completing Quests, which reward participants who interact with ads 1 week ago:
Works great if you don’t want/need PTT.
- Comment on Discord unveils Discord Orbs, a new in-app currency that users can earn by completing Quests, which reward participants who interact with ads 1 week ago:
I meant for video. The classic coturn connection is fine for voice - though I wish it had push to talk. 🥲
- Comment on Discord unveils Discord Orbs, a new in-app currency that users can earn by completing Quests, which reward participants who interact with ads 1 week ago:
Or they could choose to host their rooms on some existing server, I guess.
I mean, that’s sort of the point, right? Don’t host unless you want to.
There are lots of great, long lasting servers with open registration out there. This blog post has some good examples:
- envs.net
- tchncs.net
- Comment on Discord unveils Discord Orbs, a new in-app currency that users can earn by completing Quests, which reward participants who interact with ads 1 week ago:
“something running” - do you mean the server binary? Because, yes, if you’re using your own server you do need it to be running. Same for the client, I guess? I guess I don’t really understand what you meant by that.
Some obscure service relied on it as a support channel and last thing I remember is that matrix server stopped working.
That’s an issue with any federated service, yeah. If the server is down, it’s down. But as a bonus, unlike Discord, when a server is down you can just move to another. So, honestly, I see that as a boon.
As far as p2p goes, there was an effort to make that a while back, but it looks like people lost interest.
Though, personally I think federation is good enough. That’s why I’m on Lemmy/the Fediverse, after all.
- Comment on Discord unveils Discord Orbs, a new in-app currency that users can earn by completing Quests, which reward participants who interact with ads 1 week ago:
Technically speaking, Element does have “voice and video rooms” available as an experimental feature, but until it’s out of prime time it totally makes sense to wait.
Gotta remember that Element/New Vector (the company spearheading Matrix’s development) is getting funded mostly by orgs who are looking for a replacement for internal comms like Slack or WhatsApp.
- Comment on Discord unveils Discord Orbs, a new in-app currency that users can earn by completing Quests, which reward participants who interact with ads 1 week ago:
This is outdated and no longer preferred, it now has its own internal system called Element Call (aka an implementation of MatrixRTC).
- Comment on Discord unveils Discord Orbs, a new in-app currency that users can earn by completing Quests, which reward participants who interact with ads 1 week ago:
Yeah, I’ve done the same and it works quite well.
The only thing I was really missing from Discord was Ai noise cancellation like Krisp - and I got that by installing Easy Effects
- Comment on Discord unveils Discord Orbs, a new in-app currency that users can earn by completing Quests, which reward participants who interact with ads 1 week ago:
The issue has been there for ages. Sadly gamers aren’t really Element’s target audience.
Makes more sense to wait for MatrixRTC to enter the spec cleanly, then wait for a custom Discord-like client to implement it.
- Comment on Discord unveils Discord Orbs, a new in-app currency that users can earn by completing Quests, which reward participants who interact with ads 1 week ago:
God, I just wish they’d add a fucking Push to Talk option to a client… Any client 😅
- Comment on Discord unveils Discord Orbs, a new in-app currency that users can earn by completing Quests, which reward participants who interact with ads 1 week ago:
Only option available is Matrix. It has its problems, but they’re being worked on.
Right now it lacks the gaming/voice chat parts of discord - so for an OSS alternative for that part of discord specifically, there’s Mumble.
For everything else, Matrix is a good alternative. Just be sure to pick a discord-like client. (E.g. Commet or Cinny)
- Comment on fake keepass repo on github 2 weeks ago:
I mean, I thought it was funny.
- Comment on fake keepass repo on github 2 weeks ago:
(it’s a joke)
- Comment on That's all folks, Plex is starting to charge for sharing 5 weeks ago:
I’m very much with you.
Never understood why Plex, a once open source fork of XBMC, was seen as a positive thing when they switched to the closed source, SaaS model.
I also don’t understand the love for Tailscale when Wireguard exists.
But, anyway, the same people who are rezcting shocked to Plex can be shocked when Tailscale does the same.
They’ll probably hop on Discord to vent their frustrations before there, too, they find themselves spurred by a company with no clear plan on monetization finding out that offering hosted services at a yearly loss can only exist for so long.
Open source isn’t just about idealogy, it’s about longevity for software that can’t be clearly monetized - harken back to “amazing” services like Keybase that worked great for a few years until their VCs started asking for return of investment.
Use the shit that was made for you, not to exploit you. And if that shit isn’t up to your standard, learn to contribute, or just enjoy the corporate graveyard in which you choose to live.
(so sorry for the pseudo-unhinged rant, but between the recent Win11, Discord controversies - and now, this - I’m just fed up with all the shocked_pikachu.jpg posts I’m seeing on Lemmy)
- Comment on Reminder if you're leaving Discord for this Revolt server ( Linux + Steam Deck devs / creators) 5 weeks ago:
But as far as I can remember, you can’t administer the rooms in a space as one. Like you need to be invited into each separate room.
Nope, again - I don’t understand who told you this. When you’re creating a room in Matrix you can make it either public, invite only, or only joinable via membership in a specific space.
Here’s a screenshot of the room security interface:
Not saying that you couldn’t add that, I’m saying they don’t seem to want to “do what discord did”. Which is a bummer since the success of discord clearly shows what would be needed.
You are correct in that they “don’t want to do what discord this”: recently (and you can see this in their apps like EleX) they’ve transitioned to looking and acting more like modern mobile chat apps like Signal/WhatsApp/Telegram - a decision I’m assuming they’ve made as most of their funding comes from people who want a replacement for those apps and not Discord.
Regardless, just using a Discord-like client (e.g. Commet) is enough to get the experience you want.
- Comment on Reminder if you're leaving Discord for this Revolt server ( Linux + Steam Deck devs / creators) 5 weeks ago:
Yeah, all fair points - especially the stuff relating to stickers (also, custom emojis).
Still, I’m hoping element gets their shit together and improves the default element apps (also brings Web/Desktop up to par with Mobile).
- Comment on Reminder if you're leaving Discord for this Revolt server ( Linux + Steam Deck devs / creators) 5 weeks ago:
There’s only one standard, it has no forks. The discussion is about a filtering feature.
A lot of people don’t seem to respect spaces and communities - from my perspective it looks like the devs are currently pivoting to make the official client look and act more like Telegram/Signal/WhatsApp than Discord/IRC.
Your issue is that the dev team of EleX not prioritizing a feature you want.
If anything, this is a strength of an open source ecosystem: someone who agrees with you was able to, months ago, setup a fork that appeals to your work flow.
Try that with Discord, next time!
- Comment on Reminder if you're leaving Discord for this Revolt server ( Linux + Steam Deck devs / creators) 5 weeks ago:
I also hadn’t used it in a while - used to be very rough around the edges.
Just installed it on my phone, it’s actually pretty usable now!
- Comment on Reminder if you're leaving Discord for this Revolt server ( Linux + Steam Deck devs / creators) 5 weeks ago:
If you like Discord’s UI, there is a new Matrix client being developed - called Commet.Chat - that is trying to look and feel like Discord.
Might be worth checking out!
- Comment on Reminder if you're leaving Discord for this Revolt server ( Linux + Steam Deck devs / creators) 5 weeks ago:
It does have that.
A “server” in Matrix is a space. A chat channel is called a room. A space can hold as many rooms as you want.
Fun fact, unlike Discord, a space can even hold other spaces in it!
- Comment on Reminder if you're leaving Discord for this Revolt server ( Linux + Steam Deck devs / creators) 5 weeks ago:
SchildiChat Next is a mini-fork of Element X with proper spaces support (and some other nice UI additions).
I say mini-fork as it’s basically just EleX with some UI patches - so it follows EleX actively.
- Comment on Discord co-founder and CEO Jason Citron is stepping down 1 month ago:
Matrix doesn’t have multiple standards, it only has the one? Certain servers expose older API endpoints for backwards compatibility with old clients, but that’s all. The spec is standard and relatively stable.
Likewise, it is very much a federated protocol - dunno where you got the idea that it isn’t.
But, yeah, spec changes do take a while to get accepted/implemented.
- Comment on Discord co-founder and CEO Jason Citron is stepping down 1 month ago:
QR code login is technically out, you just need to be running your own homeserver (and MAS) to use it.
But, yeah, exciting to finally have that.
- Comment on Discord co-founder and CEO Jason Citron is stepping down 1 month ago:
Matrix does have all of that, though? Except for voice.
I use matrix/element for socializing and Mumble for voice chat while gaming.
To respond to each comment:
- Element is a unified UI, available on PC/Web/Mobile.
- Starting and managing a community involves hitting the + button, creating a community, creating rooms in that community, then setting permissions and ACLs - pretty similar to discord, though with more control as you own the server.
- Embedded content is possible through the embed button.
- Video and voice work, but aren’t great for gaming (see below).
Element Call (aka the new MatrixRTC spec) is great for video calls, but leaves a lot to be desired for chatting while gaming.
- Comment on Any fediverse like discord clones? 1 month ago:
From a chat standpoint, the two are near identical - yes - but Matrix lacks the “voice/video calls as persistent rooms” feature that Discord has. This was planned a while back, but has recently been sunset.
Early on Matrix was sort of being built up as an IRC/Discord alternative, but recently they’ve pivoted more towards a WA/Telegram/Slack alternative as most of their financial support comes from European governments and companies looking for strong and secure internal communication solutions they can manage themselves.
So, TL;DR you probably won’t see the exact Discord like features you want land in the spec any time soon as they’re not being funded.
So that means, right now:
- No persistent voice/video rooms (but they are on the roadmap!)
- No push-to-talk or “game friendly” settings like voice auto-detection (also not really on the roadmap)
Having said all that, Matrix is brilliant and I highly encourage people to check it out. I use a Matrix <-> Signal bridge for most of my comms with my friends, and we voice chat on Mumble. Not ideal, but you get to avoid Discord and you get a very similar experience! Bonus points for Mumble as it’s super lightweight.
- Comment on Bluesky has started honoring takedown requests from Turkish government 1 month ago:
Agreed.
- Comment on Bluesky has started honoring takedown requests from Turkish government 1 month ago:
Re: “(…) fuck however they want it spelt.”
As a Turkish person, I’m with you on this.
If the Turkish government wants you to refer to Turkey as Türkiye, then they shouldn’t be allowed to call the US “Amerika Birleşik Devletleri”: they should be required to pronounce it United States of America.
Let’s see how they like it then, lol. “Yunayıted Sıtets af Amerika”, hah.
- Comment on 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux? 1 month ago:
Those all sound shitty - granted, I’m pretty sure I don’t have Copilot on my system, but maybe it didn’t ask me during the upgrade? Either way - my original point still stands: all of these seem just as bad as Win10 (to me, a person who barely used either).
Don’t get me wrong, I’m really glad people are joining us on the Linux bandwagon, it just seems like the reasons for making the switch are almost arbitrary. Another way of putting it would be: "This is what finally pushed you over? ‘Copilot’?"
Anyway, regardless, I’m happy that people are making better choices - regardless of the reasons for doing so!
