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What games are just objective master pieces?

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Submitted ⁨⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨games@lemmy.world⁩

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  • Phunter@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sekiro

    Few games have such tight game design, story, lore, and characters blended so well into a single experience.

    I don’t think I even want or need a sequel.

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    • msage@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I tried playing it, but the combat… the combat, man, I can play many games, finished Elden Ring, played ton of CS1.6, Dota 2, Terraria Infernum… but Sekiro I could not finish.

      I’ve heard it’s a rhytmic game, but I suck at those, too.

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  • BastingChemina@slrpnk.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Journey

    There is not a single word in the game, barely any control but the game take you through an emotional story.

    It’s multiplayer in a sense that you might meet another player, they can help you, you can help them or just continue on your path and despite not having any words it just fell like a genuine, pure connection with someone.

    And the music is amazing.

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    • Dremor@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Journey is an Art masterpiece, but one that you need to already appreciate Art to enjoy.
      I got friends to try it, some of them enjoyed the experience, some other hated it.

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    • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Journey is indeed absolutely fantastic. It finally got a PC port a while ago after languishing on the PS3 for quite some years, and its hardware requirements are probably low enough in the modern era that practically anybody should be able to experience it.

      My only gripe is that online randos seem not to understand the meditation achievement, and get antsy when you try to entice them to sit there with you until the achievement pops. And since you can’t type at them you can’t communicate to them what’s going on.

      I got the trophy on PS3 back in the day but I haven’t successfully wrangled anybody into helping me get the Steam achievement for that yet…

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  • rustydrd@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Assuming that “masterpiece” refers to how the games worked in their time (not how well they aged) some of my picks would be:

    • Baldur’s Gate 2 + ToB
    • Morrowind
    • Read Dead Redemption 2
    • The Witcher 3
    • The Last of Us 1+2
    • God of War
    • The Legend of Zelda: BOTW
    • Mass Effect 1+2
    • Half Life 2
    • BioShock 1
    • Diablo 2
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    • Coelacanth@feddit.nu ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Hard to argue with most of those. I’d put Ocarina of Time over BotW, but that’s splitting hairs. Diablo 2 needs LoD included in my opinion.

      God of War is an embarrassing blind spot in my gaming history. Is it actually that good?

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      • rustydrd@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        God of War has two big strengths that make it a great game in my opinion. The first is the story with its great characters, presentation, and voice acting. The second is the overall “feel” of the game, which can be a bit “game-y” at times but is really tight overall with only a handful of core mechanics that are exceptionally well implemented.

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    • Dremor@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You could probably add E33 to that, even if it is still too early to know how much impact it will have.

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  • B0NK3RS@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Thomas Was Alone

    I’ve never felt so much for quadrilateral shapes.

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    • zerofk@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s a great game indeed. The narration is on point.

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  • ms_lane@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sid Meier’s Pirates.

    Either version.

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    • breecher@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I was going to say Sid Meier’s Civilization, but both of them qualifies really.

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  • Kattiydid@slrpnk.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Zelda Breath of the wild for me. Don’t get me wrong I enjoyed Tears of the Kingdom but breath of the wild scratched a perfect itch for me. Especially master mode. Well over 1000 hours played.

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    • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I also maintain that Breath of the Wild was superior to Tears of the Kingdom. Apparently this opinion makes Zelda fans incredibly salty.

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      • Kattiydid@slrpnk.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s the vibe. TotK just… Feels more industrial, and less clean and hopeful. BotW was just so pretty and you HAD to walk to places or glide the first time. The machines in TotK made it so easy to skip the nature that it felt less rewarding to play. Like, if you could just snap your fingers and have the perfect house immediately with no work, no effort, the house wouldn’t feel as rewarding as one you built with your own skill.

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  • weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The Spyro the dragon trilogy for me is just an absolute masterpiece.

    Final Fantasy VII, IX and X are three master pieces

    Metroid prime and fusion

    Fatal Frame trilogy on the PlayStation 2, Forbidden Siren, Silent Hill 2, Resident Evil 2 are amongst the best of the best

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    • Krauerking@lemy.lol ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I do think the Spyro games are probably the absolute best of the collect-a-thon genre. Joyful and fun and with fun puzzles. I am worried I am too biased to say it though since I have 120%/100%/117% beat the games multiple multiple multiple times.

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      • weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Hey, you and me man xD

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  • davidgro@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Super Hexagon

    It’s about as simple as a ‘modern’ game can be (I read there was even a port of it to Commodore 64.) but it’s a finely tuned machine. When you lose - and you will, a lot - it feels like mostly your own fault and not the game’s.

    The difficulty levels very accurately start at Hard for the easiest one. There are 6 total levels, the next 5 difficulties are Harder, Hardest, Hardester, Hardestest, and Hardestestest.

    With much time and luck I can beat the first level (unlocking the 4th). On a lost save I had unlocked the 5th level by completing the 2nd, and have only ever seen the 6th in videos from other people. I would have to beat the 3rd to see it myself, and that’s not happening.

    The criteria to beat a level is “last for 60 seconds”.

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    • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I thought at first you guys were thinking of this, and I was puzzled. Then I looked it up.

      Crivens, it’s like a combination of Tempest and Flappy Bird, but since it’s a Terry Cavanagh game it’s also been whacked over the head soundly with VVVVVV.

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    • stormdelay@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s really good, I played it again recently after not touching it for maybe 10 years, and finally beat the last difficulty in an attempt to prove to myself I’m still not old

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    • FooBarrington@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Super. Hexagon.

      It’s hard to explain the relief I felt upon beating the last level. I can fairly easily survive for 300s in the first one, but I’ve never gotten close to beating the last one again.

      There’s also a “spiritual successor” called Open Hexagon that’s extendable by the community if you want more, though I haven’t played it myself.

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      • davidgro@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’ll have to try that vsync thing when I get a new PC (laptop)

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  • BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Doom (93) I guess ?

    Also HL and HL2

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  • njm1314@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Mega Man X

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  • Flickerby@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Clair Obscur has been the best game I’ve played in a long while, absolute masterpiece

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  • UnfairUtan@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Outer wilds

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  • setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    objective

    MEDIA APPRECIATION DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY, GOOD NIGHT!

    Image

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  • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    ENA: Dream BBQ

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  • PushButton@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Antichamber

    and maybe Portal

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  • InfiniteHench@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Bloodborne Bioshock Hollow Knight

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  • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t see Goldeneye on your list.

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  • Jordan117@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Katamari Damacy. It has a reputation for being silly Japanese nonsense, but the gameplay is brilliant, the graphics are timeless, the soundtrack is incredible, and it has some surprising thematic depth.

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    • weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Na naaaaa na na na na na, na na, na naaaa Katamari Damacyyyyyyy

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  • rockerface@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Out of recent ones, Blue Prince

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    • Krauerking@lemy.lol ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s such a good puzzle box but I don’t think I would call The Room, a masterpiece while it’s still yet another great puzzle box game.

      They are masterpieces in puzzles but maybe not games? I dunno why I don’t consider them.

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  • tal@lemmy.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Just out of curiosity, listing the games mentioned here as of this writing and their date of release:

    Release Date Game
    1980 Pac-Man
    1985 The Oregon Trail (assuming widely-played 1985 game)
    1986 Kid Icarus
    1988 Mega Man 2
    1988 Super Mario Brothers 3
    1988 Tetris
    1988 The Guardian Legend
    1989 Abadox: The Deadly Inner War
    1989 Ironsword: Wizards & Warriors II
    1989 Monster Party
    1989 Populous
    1989 Sweet Home
    1990 Dr. Mario
    1990 Final Fantasy III
    1991 Battletoads (assuming original game)
    1991 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
    1992 Ecco the Dolphin
    1992 Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    1992 Super Mario Kart
    1993 Dinopark Tycoon
    1993 Doom
    1993 Gauntlet IV
    1993 Lufia & the Fortress of Doom (assuming first game)
    1993 Mega Man X
    1994 Donkey Kong Country
    1994 Earthworm Jim
    1994 Sonic & Knuckles
    1994 Sonic the Hedgehog 3
    1994 Super Metroid
    1994 The Lion King
    1995 Chrono Trigger
    1997 Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    1997 Diablo
    1997 Final Fantasy VII
    1997 Final Fantasy VII
    1997 Mega Man X4
    1997 Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee
    1997 Snowboard Kids
    1998 Banjo-Kazooie
    1998 Metal Gear Solid
    1998 Sonic Adventure
    1998 South Park
    1998 StarCraft: Brood War
    1999 Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings
    1999 Heroes of Might and Magic III
    1999 Planescape:Torment
    1999 Quake III Arena
    1999 RollerCoaster Tycoon
    1999 Silent Hill
    1999 Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike
    1999 Sven Co-op
    1999 Unreal Tournament
    1999 Worms Armageddon
    2000 Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2
    2000 Diablo II
    2000 Resident Evil CODE: Veronica
    2000 SimCity 3000 Unlimited
    2000 Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2
    2001 Ace Combat 04: Shattered Skies
    2001 Final Fantasy X
    2001 Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
    2001 Shenmue II
    2002 The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
    2003 Beyond Good & Evil
    2003 Need for Speed: Underground
    2003 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
    2004 Ace Combat 5: The Unsung War
    2004 Champions of Norrath
    2004 Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
    2004 Gran Turismo 4
    2004 Half Life 2
    2004 Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
    2004 The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap
    2005 Champions: Return to Arms
    2005 Psychonauts
    2005 Shadow of the Colossus
    2006 Ace Combat Zero: The Belkan War
    2006 Ōkami
    2007 BioShock
    2007 *Dark Souls
    2007 Mass Effect
    2007 Portal
    2008 Clonk Rage
    2008 Left 4 Dead
    2008 Mirror’s Edge
    2008 Super Smash Bros. Brawl
    2009 Dragon Age: Origins
    2009 Forza Motorsport 3
    2009 Killing Floor
    2009 Left 4 Dead 2
    2009 Plants vs. Zombies
    2009 Steins;Gate
    2010 Battlefield: Bad Company 2
    2010 Limbo
    2010 Nier
    2010 Planet Minigolf
    2011 Bastion
    2011 Portal 2
    2011 Terraria
    2011 The Binding of Isaac
    2012 Hotline Miami
    2012 The House in Fata Morgana
    2012 Tokyo Jungle
    2014 Forza Horizon 2
    2014 LISA: The Painful
    2015 Bloodborne
    2015 Ori and the Blind Forest
    2015 The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
    2015 Undertale
    2016 Doom (2016)
    2016 Kirby: Planet Robobot
    2016 Stardew VAlley
    2016 The Witness
    2016 Titanfall 2
    2016 Tyranny
    2017 Little Nightmares
    2017 Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (for Deluxe version)
    2017 Nier: Automata
    2017 Night in the Woods
    2017 Super Mario Odyssey
    2017 The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
    2018 Celeste
    2018 Donut County
    2018 Return of the Obra Dinn
    2018 Rimworld
    2018 Subnautica
    2019 A Short Hike
    2019 Disco Elysium
    2019 Outer Wilds
    2019 Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice
    2019 Slay the Spire
    2020 Cyberpunk 2077
    2020 Factorio
    2020 Hades
    2021 Everhood: An Ineffable Tale of the Inexpressible Divine Moments of Truth
    2021 Psychonauts 2
    2022 Elden Ring
    2022 Lil Gator Game
    2023 Baldur’s Gate 3
    2023 Dave the Diver
    2024 Balatro
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    • mohab@piefed.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The only game I kinda like on this list is Okami.

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    • TechAnon@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      1996: Duke Nukem 3D

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    • biofaust@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Missing Half-life (the first one). That game was the first one to feature scripted scenes during player interaction and it was mind-blowing. Plus, it had the most sophisticated story ever seen in an FPS before.

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    • TheFriar@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Has seriously no one mentioned The Last of Us? That’s crazy.

      I think the second should be included.

      As well as red dead redemption 2.

      The storytelling is just top tier. Better than literally almost all media made today.

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      • XM34@feddit.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Last of Us 1 was really good. But the second one was so bad, it kind of ruined the first one for me as well. And I wouldn’t call it masterpiece. Because for me a masterpiece shines in gameplay, narrative and atmosphere. The Last of Us’ gameplay serves its purpose, but there’s really nothing special here compared to e.g. Elden Ring, were story, atmosphere and gameplay are all pretty much perfect.

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      • AsslessChaps@lemmynsfw.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Rdr2 was the only game that I was actually emotionally tied to the characters. It was truly a masterpiece.

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    • noxypaws@pawb.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Tokyo Jungle, YES!

      A game so sadly lost to time. My partner’s PS3 still has it installed, but no idea if the hard drive is still functional…

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    • Skunk@jlai.lu ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      2025: Clair Obscur Expedition 33.

      Even if the year is not finished, this game is such a perfect work of art on so many levels that it became the new favorite to me, and to plenty other players.

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      • QueenMidna@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Going to have to disagree, especially when it comes to storytelling

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  • Paradachshund@lemmy.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    For me it’s Journey. That game gave me an emotional experience I’ve never had in any other.

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    • Suck_on_my_Presence@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This game will forever live in my heart as an absolute masterpiece. I cry every time I play it because something about it just completely sucks me in.

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    • Flickerby@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I added the buddy I ran through the game with and he’s still on my friend list decade or so later, amazing experience

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    • Stovetop@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Absolute embodiment of less is more. Controls are simple but intuitive, you can beat it in one session, there’s no major payoff in the end. It’s just a game about the journey and the friends made along the way.

      I still remember having my mind blown that the other figure I met after the tutorial level was not just an NPC, when I noticed their movements were too deliberate and they were solving some puzzles for me.

      I made it all the way to the end of the game with that person. Never knew who they even were until their name showed up at the very end. What a cathartic experience. I’ve also never been able to achieve anything similar since then.

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  • pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Braid. Surprised that it wasn’t mentioned yet

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  • mostNONheinous@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    MAD MAX from 2015, while not tied directly to the new movies it scratches an itch I haven’t found in any other game. It’s dark and bleak and brutal. The combat on foot and behind the wheel are both incredible. Nothing quite like being in the middle of ripping a convoy 7 new assholes and being hit with a dust storm. It can be repetitive if you want to complete everything but BY THE GODS OF VALHALLA is it a fucking blast.

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    • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It actually is directly tied to the movies. The character who first gives Furiousa a chassis to build from isn’t quite as hunchbacked as in the game but he is credited as “Chumbucket!”

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      • mostNONheinous@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        No shit that’s awesome!

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  • Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Bloodborne.

    It’s also easy to tell most lemmyzens are PC gamers since I hardly saw anyone mention it and it is OBJECTIVELY THE GREATEST GAME EVER MADE.

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    • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      While I am primarily a PC gamer, it really is the best thing From Software has ever done and an objective masterpiece. I sometimes waffle between whether Bloodborne or Sekiro is my favorite, but regardless of my own preference, I do think Bloodborne is the best.

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  • angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m going to take this as “games that I never see anyone question their quality.” (I don’t even like all these games myself)

    • Sonic 3 & Knuckles

    • Kirby Planet Robobot

    • Doom 2016

    • Street Fighter III: Third Strike

    • Pac-Man

    • Balatro

    • Steins;Gate

    • The House in Fata Morgana

    • Castlevania: Symphony of the Night

    • Gran Turismo 4

    • Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

    • Mega Man X

    • Mega Man X4

    • Super Mario Bros. 3

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    • Coelacanth@feddit.nu ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Baldur’s Gate 3 is a good game and a worthwhile experience but you can absolutely make quite a lot of very valid critiques about it.

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      • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah for a third person isometric RPG with non-linear branching storylines and deep thoughtful story, Disco Elysium positively blows BG3 out of the water.

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    • weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Steins;Gate my man cultured AF

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    • Montagge@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I am here to question Elden Ring’s quality

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    • thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’d take SMW over SMB3, but I can’t really fault anything else in this list! 😅

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      • angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I like SMW better myself (actually not a single franchise entry on that list is my favorite in the series) but it doesn’t have the kind of unanimous praise SMB3 does.

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  • chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There is no “objective” when talking about subjective terms.

    My personal, SUBJECTIVE favorites are Mass Effect, Titanfall 2, Subnautica, Stardew Valley, Ori and the Blind Forest, Dave the Diver, Balatro, and Portal 1 and 2

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  • frank@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I think Outer Wilds is the most unique and fantastic way to tell a story I’ve ever experienced. Truly open in a way I’ve not seen before or since.

    With the banger of a soundtrack too, I just can’t bring myself to rate other games higher than it; even if I enjoy them more, Outer Wilds is probably the best game I’ve ever played.

    Slay the Spire probably makes the list as it’s inspired countless tweaks on its incredibly balanced deck building experience

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  • GraniteM@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Red Alert 2

    Heroes of Might and Magic 3

    Super Mario Brothers 3

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  • emb@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Super Metroid

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  • toomanypancakes@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Super Metroid is still the first that comes to mind. Amazing experience from start to finish.

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