What's the process of black market weed consumption?

Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨IllusiveSun@lemm.ee⁩ to ⁨nostupidquestions@lemmy.world⁩

If you’re of age and it’s legal where you live, most people probably just go to the store and get high at home. But how does a socially awkward yet careful teen without those kind of friends get into it, if such people do? You have to know who to buy it from, and once you get it, how do you smoke it? If you live with your parents and are never home alone for more than several hours, you might not have enough time for a good high. And what about tripping in nature or at someone else’s house? You can’t just teleport there, you have to walk or drive, the latter of which is very dangerous, I would imagine as bad as driving drunk, just in a different way. So is a good dose of the devil’s lettuce basically unattainable for the victims of upper middle class suburbanite comfort?

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CTDummy@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
I would wait until your circumstances change to be honest. At least until your +18 due to (if I recall) the younger you are, the more likely negative health outcomes are.

Also my first couple of times it was pretty full on and while panic and negative thought spirals are rare, it’s be a shame to wreck your first few times because you’re worried about someone coming home early/enviroment. Also, absolutely do not tried while intoxicated, regardless of the substance.

To answer your question, you make friends who are in the scene and know how to source some. Buying from strangers is a great way to buy cooking herbs from dickheads. If it’s an option, legal or medical is the far superior route even if it can be tedious.

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- timmytbt@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Strongly agree with the suggestion to wait. The consensus is that pot is not good for the developing brain.
  
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- boredtortoise@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Something like 25 years is the current known cutoff age, one should hold off before that
  
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- Tujio@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Panic/ thought spirals are not that rare, in my experience. If this person is already this nervous about it, it makes spiraling that much more likely.
  
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  - jimmy90@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    yeah if you take a lot first time it’s very likely you’re going to find the sudden change in reality shocking
    
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  - CTDummy@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Good point, cheers.
    
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- Apepollo11@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  This, very much. You are an adult for a long, long time - there’s no need to do everything while you are still a kid.
  
  Also this about being friends with at least one person who already knows what they’re doing.
  
  If you’re planning to go to uni, just wait until then, you’ll have your own room, meet new people, and be more physically capable to handle it.
  
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JustJack23@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

So is a good dose of the devil’s lettuce basically unattainable for the victims of upper middle class suburbanite comfort?

If you talk like that you will not get weed, you will get your ass kicked.

My suggestion is just find more friends, go to parties, go to college… There is literally zero chance you go to a college party and there is no weed. It is illegal where I live so even some younger assistants smoked…

But buying it for yourself is a bit different, and you just don’t seem to have the social skills to manage that.

Additionally smoking with friends at a party is very different than smoking alone at home. You can get paranoid and with friends around they can calm you.

Finally wait until you are older, maybe 25 then your brain is more developed and you will fuck it up less.

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- IllusiveSun@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  The whole reason I made this post is I’m going to a party tonight and there’s gonna be weed there, but I’m gonna be driving there so I figured it might not be a good idea to smoke, because if I’m gonna do it I’m gonna do it for the effects, not just take a couple hits to look cool. I don’t really wanna ask to spend the night because I haven’t been friends with this person for too long. I might be able to walk, but they live a bit far, so my parents would be pretty suspicious of me walking home from across town in the middle of the night. Might be best to just try and have a good time without it.
  
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  - JustJack23@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Yeah, you don’t need weed to have a good time!
    
    FOR SURE DO NOT DRIVE, if this is your first time smoking you will not be able to navigate to the toilet let alone drive.
    
    Depending on your situation you can ask for a ride, or walk back? Or even call your parents to pick you up. I would be much calmer if a friend of mine(cuz I don’t have kids) calls and tells me I got a bit drunk I am afraid to drive.
    
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Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
This is just proof that legalization ACTUALLY keeps the stuff OUT of teenagers hands.

When I was a teen, it was illegal. Everywhere.

Which meant that literally EVERYONE at school had it. I seriously did not pay for weed from 8th grade until about age 22, just because SOMEONE always wanted to party with the fat funny kid. Imagine getting to smoke weed with Chris Farley. Would you charge him? Or would you just invite him?

It wasn’t until I was living with my girlfriend, and we wanted to smoke together that I realized “oh shit…I guess I actually have to go buy it.”

And it was still illegal, which meant everyone had it. I just went to work, and asked literally the first person I worked with who they buy weed from. Turns out she grew/sold it.

It was illegal, and therefore unregulated, and therefore it existed freely.

Now, in most states it’s legal, and thus regulated, and thus the black market can’t exist.

The idea of teenagers NOT having free access to weed is absolutely foreign to me, but it’s the world we live in today. Whereas I grew up in the war on drugs. Which used the D.A.R.E program to educate kids on how cool drugs are, where to get them, and then passed out free samples. Which went missing. Years later I heard conspiracy theories that the D.A.R.E programs ACTUAL goal was to get kids hooked on illegal drugs, so they could arrest them as young adults.

And honestly? I don’t have much in the way of an arguement to dispute that. I’m not saying it’s true. I’m just saying I have no arguement against it.

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- scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  I think there’s a lot in this post about how times have changed. Notice the part about not being able to get time away from parents. Or not being able to get outside somewhere to smoke up. Kids these days don’t go out like we used to. Shit my brother and I used to haul our asses a couple of miles over some hills that had rattlesnakes to reach a video arcade. Our mom just made us carry a snakebite kit. OP now sits at home pecking at their phone asking how to go outside and gosh is it just impossible in suburbia? I am floored by this post.
  
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  - Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    They might have active parents lol. When I was growing up, very few parents cared what we were doing as long as we weren’t flipping cars or coming home in a police cruiser.
    
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alaphic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
You need to find\make some friends that work in some type of kitchen. I’ve never worked with kitchen staff that didn’t smoke at a minimum

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Depress_Mode@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
The first thing I’ll say is to consider putting it off until you’re older.

That being said, if you don’t know anyone who smokes, you might find it difficult to get some yourself. Your best bet would be to make friends who already have those connections. Many dealers won’t respond if you can’t name a customer that referred you. That might be the biggest hurdle to start with if you aren’t willing to start conversations. Ask classmates about the stoners around school if you can’t think of anyone.

If you manage to make those friends, though, the actual exchange with a dealer is usually pretty chill. You meet at an agreed upon spot (perhaps a park or something, maybe their house, etc.), and you hand over the money and they hand over the weed. Then you go home. You can show up with a friend if you want, but it’s best practice to let the dealer know that before you show up. A first text might go something like, “Hey, my name is ___ and I’d like to buy a dime ($10, often 1 gram)/dub ($20). I got your number from ___. Would you be down to meet sometime soon?” Some more advanced dealers will offer things like dab cartridges and edibles. Weed smells, and so does paraphernalia, so be sure to keep it in an air-tight container. Don’t front money for drugs, ever. Also, be sure not to let it become too much of a habit. Try to limit yourself to a couple times a month, or only the weekends, etc.

A marijuana high lasts about 2-3 hours, so if you know you’ll have much more time than that, you’ll be ok. You can also go out to meet up with a friend for awhile, then both go to smoke elsewhere if their house isn’t an option. Most high-schoolers find a nearby, secluded place in some forested area to smoke in, at least where I live. Walking there and back (even while baked) is usually no big deal, unless it’s super far or something. If you don’t have a place like that nearby, any other little hidden spots you can find will probably do if they aren’t too high-key. Just be sure to clean up after yourself. Pack it in, pack it out. If you’re worried about the smell after smoking, smoke outside, change your clothes/put on a top layer first, and brush your teeth.

As for how to smoke, you have some options. Probably the cheapest, easiest, most concealable option would be a small pipe (I’d recommend glass). You can find cheap ones online that can be delivered to your door on websites like dhgate, if you aren’t worried about your parents opening your mail for you. There’s also bongs, joints, and vapes, which each have their own pros and cons. I’m sure there’s a million youtube tutorials for each of those options. When smoking, I think the key is to inhale properly and deeply, which may be difficult starting out. You often hear that people can’t get high their first time smoking weed, but I think this is due to improper smoking technique. I know my first time I definitely wasn’t doing it right.

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WeeSheep@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
If you are an introvert, ask your extroverted sibling to pick and dry some from their friend’s parent’s plants. Then go to the park and smoke it after school. Keep it with a pipe and grinder in a water tight no-spill thermos (keeps smell in and keeps it fresh).

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- viscacha@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Besides just taking it being effectively stealing, you will get a really bad product and damage a plant prematurely.
  
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  - WeeSheep@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    I never stole it and it was pretty decent when it got to me. My sibling may have already had it on hand and just given it to me.
    
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PillowTalk420@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Find someone you know who smokes weed and ask them to hook you up.

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- JustJack23@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  I’d say bad idea on that, I have tried it and one of the guys I got weed from usually liked harder stuff, so he frequently tried to invite me to try them…
  
  If you are introverted and cant say no or as society inept as OP seems, that is a very bad combo.
  
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Fleur_@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
I was a socially awkward careful teen! I never did it!

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SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Well first I suggest delaying it if you’re particularly young. My first time was at 19. Anything younger I wouldn’t recommend.

Not legal here. Had a friend who sourced it for me. Lots of people smoke here so I don’t buy directly from someone sketchy but from friends who are more regular smokers.

I like to mix it with tobacco, I’m also a cigarette smoker. Mix weed or hash which is my choice of drug, roll it up (use a filter obviously). Hash must be mixed, weed you can go pure on.

I do live with my parents. I have smoked on my roof or lawn early in the morning, when they’re asleep or not home. At parks at midnight. At some friends house, hotels etc.

For transport, uber. Or a designated driver.

And I too am upper middle class suburban, just happen to be in the third world.

Its nothing that you have to do. If it’s inconvenient, let it be. I haven’t smoked in 3-4 months.

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7dev7random7@suppo.fi ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Unpopular opinion but if you want to experience with it, go tell one of your caregivers. They might be happy that you come to them first and with such joy make it a shared experience.

Though, you are talking about a drug. So you intentions have to be sincere.

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- IllusiveSun@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Dude my parents have never done a drug in their lives, except alcohol, which I guess counts as okay to them.
  
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  - 7dev7random7@suppo.fi ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Parents may just don’t talk about it since they try their best to be a role model.
    
    A good answer for them would be: These experiences would be granted if you go to college/university.
    
    You could also ask other loved ones if you don’t want to put them into this position.
    
    Looking back at my life I would simply tell them. Maybe they won’t answer immediately if they have no experience with it but chance is, that they talk about it with someone who may have such experiences and give you their honest opinion (or in your interest).
    
    I started smoking weed when I was 16. I stopped 10 years later. I ruined my brain. I still have trouble recalling stuff. And I am still actively trying to aid this.
    
    When you are fully developed you can handle the addictive behaviour a little better. When doing such things just in the college time you are not damaging your body that much. Would be my suggestion.
    
    It’s expensive and only funny and less addictive when done with trusted ones at a time you do not have responsibilities for others.
    
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HuntressHimbo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Going to second the recommendation to wait until you’re older since your brain will be more fully developed and less impacted. Since the other comments haven’t really touched on the how I thought I would speak to that. You’ve got a couple of different options depending on your needs.

A very cheap entry point would be a pipe, lighter, and a grinder, then you would get some flower grind it and smoke. The exact breathing and covering process can take a few tries to get right, but if you look up a video you’ll have it in no time. This option is pretty smelly, as you are combusting flower, so if you want to be discreet I recommend airtight storage and a change of clothes for yourself. If you don’t want to keep a pipe you could buy cones for rolling joints.

For a bit more you can get a cheap dry herb vape, which I would recommend. Doesn’t combust so the smell fades faster and its not as rough on your lungs. For this you’ll just need the vape and the grinder.

Young could also go for carts and oil/resin vapes, but I wouldn’t trust random carts so not really recommended. For this you’d probably want a 510 battery to smoke carts purchased somewhere reputable. If you go this route live rosin is less bad for you but goes bad faster and is pricier.

When it comes to where, I recommend outdoors somewhere secluded and private. Look for somewhere that will hide you and won’t blow the smoke down to a populated place. Big bonus if its somewhere you’re comfortable since that will lower your chances of having a bad time with your high.

Stay safe, remember its not worth drawing police attention just to get high.

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TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
I mean, you are stepping into this with some assumptions, then asking us to answer your questions with the, frankly wrong, framework you’ve already established. Like just within the context of what you’ve laid out, its not reasonable to expect anyone to answer. It becomes an issue of actually answering your question versus addressing your assumptions. Also, the manner in which you discuss weed: “you might not have enough time for a good high”; “I would imagine as bad as driving drunk”, “a good dose of the devil’s lettuce”. Its a tell that you have no grounding in experience. If you have 0 grounding in experience, what are you doing making this many assumptions? Maybe consider how little you actually know and reconsider your question accordingly.

Firstly, weed has a long and deep culture that established itself during prohibition. Getting weed from a friend or a dealer, its how it was done for decades, its still the way the majority of people I know who consume it prefer.

In-fact, many of the things you outline as “issues”: they are part of the process. Walking to your friend or dealers house, often with a group of friends, or maybe piling into the car. Its part of the journey, the experience. Buying weed becomes a social activity. As far as people to know who to buy it from, guess what? Its probably at least 25%, maybe even half of everyone you know smokes weed at least occasional. If you are buying off market, its from your electrician friend, or the guy who works food service, or someones brother or sister who has a connection. You call them up, ask if they can hook it up, give them time to do their part (they usually have to go get it themselves), then you head their way, either by foot or skate board, or should you be so lucky, a car. You go, you hang out with your connection, maybe smoke a bit (but not necessarily). Its a social call. Then you get back with your friends, and you walk off to the park to smoke.

As far as smoking, you might have papers, or a pipe. Its pretty common to have both. If you are more serious, you might even go so far as to carry a dab pen and torch with you. Then you smoke. You take a hit and you cough. There can be a bit of a head rush, but thats mostly the coughing. Its a good taste. A rich flavor between tobacco and sweet basil maybe? And then you are stoned for a bit. Its not like alcohol whatsoever. Its just not like that. It does impair you but not at all in the same way. A person who has taken one hit of weed is a far far safer driver than a driver who has had even one beer. Its not like you are falling all over yourself. All a hit is going to do is just makes you a little dumb and have access to more random thoughts than you did previously, like, “Whatever happened to Jon Stamos?” or, “Do red pandas also have thumbs?”. Its not dangerous whatsoever to be walking high, though it might be a bit dangerous to drive stoned. I dont recommend it, but frankly, unless you are like, extremely inexperienced (like first couple times) or extremely high (did a ridiculous amount), its just a non-issue.

The walking somewhere to get weed, scrounging up enough to buy between your friends, then finding a place to go smoke with your friends, its practically a rite of passage in adolescence. And its fun. Its a good time. The walking and going somewhere is practically the point. Its a manner of socializing. Its also something that isn’t built into a “consumption oriented” experience. That’s changing with dispensaries, but there is decades of cultural experience around getting weed from friends. Embedded within your question are views around consumption, capitalism, and even what the entire point of smoking weed actually is. You might challenge some of those views and consider how they are impacting your thinking.

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Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Too old! Yes, too old to begin the training.

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- TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  But I’ve learned so much!
  
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felixwhynot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
If you make friends with people in bands, especially funk bands, you’ll meet the smokers.

AFAIK dealers today will often sell vape cartridges which may be easiest. You can buy a battery online or at most smoke shops.

I would agree with some posters that smoking with friends is best!

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fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Smoke when they’re not at home, or just walk somewhere. As long as you’re not crossing busy roads walking while high isn’t a problem. You could also just get high and chill out until you’re not high, then walk back.

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Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
It’s only been legal here for a year but before that I used to ask shady looking people at train stations or in parks. Those usually sell hard drugs but they can still be of help. It’s a clichee but it’s genuinely reliable. But like probably don’t do this. Easy way to get scammed or mugged for a kid.

And I’ve been high on weed plenty around my parents. As a teen I generally didn’t have much of an interest talking to them so they probably didn’t suspect anything when I fucked off straight to my room after walking the dog. Would not recommend that for the first time though. Best to do it at a friend’s house.

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