You’re not going to play Witcher 4 because of woke Ciri, I’m not going to play because I don’t like the games. We are not the same
"You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"
Submitted 4 weeks ago by inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
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BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
boonhet@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
You’re not going to play Witcher 4 because you don’t like the games, I’m not going to play because my PC is aging and I feel new GPUs are so ridiculously overpriced, I don’t want to replace my RTX 3060 ti anytime soon.
BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I feel that. Still rocking a 1080. And I’ve got a series s for new releases.
Honytawk@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
For real, the battle mechanics are just so clunky and slow. And the magic is just 5 times the same spell but with different colors.
Not to mention that you are shoehorned into a character that you don’t get to decide, and the NPCs laugh at you if you choose dialogue options that don’t fit this characters mold.
Rather play an actual RPG than this action adventure akin to Tomb Raider.
ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Low lifes
Rooty@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
My man Geralt looked like he was in dire need of a nap during the entire run of Witcher 3. Let him rest, people.
Dasus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
No rest for the wicked, and witchers be real wicked.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 4 weeks ago
They should do a Last Of Us prequel with Joel, but he dies in that one too due to time travel shenanigans.
dvlsg@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Can we have a Joel from another universe be the one to kill him? Multiverses are so hot right now.
k1ck455kc@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
As long as they remake the original Witcher(and maybe the 2nd one too) so i can experience it in a similarly cinematic way to The Witcher 3… I will be happy and excited to see what a Ciri-based game or even trilogy would look like.
Will definitely miss the masculine indulgences of TW3 in the Ciri game though…
BmeBenji@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
If you’re avoiding the first two Witcher games because they’re somehow not cinematic, you’re sorely mistaken.
Both of those games are incredibly atmospheric to the point of mastery. (tbf you have to be able to forgive the character models in the first game and that can be admittedly difficult because HOLY HELL ZOLTAN ARE YOU OKAY)
also wtf do you mean “masculine indulgences?”
pezhore@infosec.pub 4 weeks ago
Definitely not OP, but I wouldn’t mind remasters of the first game to address the wonky controls. Witcher 2 was fine, but trying to go from Witcher 3 back to Witcher 1 for the first time was not a great experience for me.
kbotc@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Ciri has a relationship with a woman in the books, so I’m not sure you will miss what I assume you’re referring to as “the masculine indulgences” as much as you think you will.
On the other hand, CDPR retconned a shedload of that book so we shall see.
BadlyDrawnRhino@aussie.zone 4 weeks ago
They are remaking the first game, but I don’t know if there are enough details about it yet to know how extensive the overhaul will be. The second game doesn’t need one.
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
The second one might benefit from a remaster by the time 4 comes out, as some of the models are a bit too XBox360 era, with the strangely wide shoulders and oversized arm muscles of the time
CatDogL0ver@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
[deleted]Kirca@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Because just having two characters with the exact same lines is boring, Gerry has had 3 games now, I want to explore someone else as a character, with new motivations, character flaws etc
IEatDaGoat@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Let’s be honest, he’s only got 1 game. I tried going back to Witcher 1 and 2 after playing 3 and it’s impossible to adjust to the older game UI. Modding or tweaking it is also not worth it imo so I wouldn’t mind another Geralt game.
mriswith@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I’ve said for years that one or more of the main characters should be prominent, but you play most of the game as a custom character and you get to choose your witcher school. So I’m sort of hoping that she’s the protagonist and main character in a similar way to TW3.
abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Eh, idk. The Witcher universe has a framework for an RPG, but the books have always been about Geralt and Co. You could do something different in that universe, but I think the story and the games have some very strong structure that comes from the player being Geralt and living his story.
Witchers are a rare dying breed. Trying to shove another new generic Witcher in would force you into writing a whole new series of stories, and backgrounds, just for that one character, which would make it get lost in the mix imho.
vordalack@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
I can’t play games anymore because of nonsense like this. I changed hobbies to writing Chinese poetry and watching ballet. The last Ballet I saw was Swan Lake in China. Absolutely beautiful.
vxx@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Too woke. It has a female lead role.
Apeman42@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Not gonna lie, I was hoping they’d use some Law of Surprise stuff to give Geralt a new ward and let you create your own Witcher. But, if instead I get to do teleport strike bullshit with Ciri’s powers, I’ll be content.
Aux@feddit.uk 4 weeks ago
Americans telling Polish how to write their books and make their games, lol. Fuck off!
vane@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Why complicate things ? Games are not books. I see Witcher game I expect Geralt. What is wrong with this thinking ? Do I need to think everytime I play Horizon ? No when I play Horizon I expect Aloy.
There is nothing to do with woke. If you expect people to read books before they play a game there is something wrong with you not with people who want to play a game with their favourite character.
denaggels@feddit.org 4 weeks ago
The Witcher game series is based on the book series.
The post criticizes not the expectation of players that haven’t read the books, but of the subset of people that think making Ciri the protagonist is a political message, when it’s just staying true to its source.
Your critique has nothing to do with this post.
Expectations differ from person to person. You see the games as a separate thing. They are obviously not. But it’s totally fair to want another witcher game with Gerald with his story continued. If the original creator of the story didn’t write it that way, then CD Project Red would have to come up with their own story. Straying too far from source material can end badly - see Game of Thrones seasons 6-8.
vane@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Nah the author of article asume that all people that say that Ciri can’t be a witcher it’s because they claim it’s woke and tries to turn those who disagree to say it’s political. I clearly state it’s not. I don’t want Ciri in Witcher because I want to play Geralt. That’s all. The author puts books to afirmate his claims that only people who read books are worthy to say something about Ciri being a Witcher protagonist and that everyone else says it’s woke. No I disagree. Books are not Games.
nuko147@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Geralt needs retirement. The ending of Blood and Wine expansion, tells you that loud and clear, and agree with that. It was a perfect ending for the Trilogy.
Ending with Ciri following the Witcher path, is Canon now. I dont agree with the decision of Ciri becoming a Witcher (not making her the protagonist, but her taking the Mutagens), but i want to see how they explain that turn of events.
vane@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
That’s the problem, they want to put Ciri in same gameplay but different story and say that’s new Witcher. I would more likely play as Yenefer sorceress and slay monsters in a Witcher game than play as Ciri that somehow becomes a Witcher just to slay monsters with as sword. We already have character that slays monsters with a sword in Witcher game, he’s called Geralt.
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 4 weeks ago
Ending with Ciri following the Witcher path, is Canon now
It’s canon in the books too. She was trained at Ker Moren, then trained by Yennefer but ultimately she gives up her magic entirely after pulling from fire as a source out of desperation. She remains an extremely skilled swordswoman with partial mutation
SleepyBear@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I dont think its necessarily to complicate things but more that we’ve had Geralt as a main character for 3 games. His time is ending, and if you love him as a main character there are those 3 aforementioned games you can play to get what youre looking for. Switching up the main protagonist to another character that we as gamers have learned to love and accept through the series is probably the best move, both for business and canonically.
VirgilMastercard@reddthat.com 4 weeks ago
This comment is woke
capuccino@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
If you need consume X media to be able enjoy Y media, we have a problem there, pal :/
tb_@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That’s not what he said??
Auli@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
What does reading the books have to do with the game. The books take place before the game series. Or am I mistaken.
UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 4 weeks ago
Yeah, Geralt and Yen “dies” and may or may not be saved by Ciri’s power at the end of the series. Ciri is the pivotal character in the story, Geralt is really just there trying to find her.
courval@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Thanks, I find the winky a much better option than the cold monotonous /s
Neuromorph@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
“Im happy to work with whatever the creative team comes up with.” is that a safe statement, or could that backfire, professionally?
vga@sopuli.xyz 4 weeks ago
I didn’t like Witcher 3. I played the main storyline to Skellige and after a while of adventuring there, I just could not bring myself to continue the game.
phar@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
As far as fantasy goes, are the books good?
vga@sopuli.xyz 4 weeks ago
Yes, I think so. There’s are interesting large scale trends in the book’s world, and even though the protagonists are powerful beings, they’re forced to mostly just witness and react to the events. The characters are deep and interesting and the overall plot is rewarding.
theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Everything should be woke actually. If you complain about wokeness I don’t think you deserve to enjoy things
WhatsTheHoldup@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
Imo there are two types of “wokeness”.
There is a diverse inclusive story by someone with an underrepresented experience who partially lived that story and has a unique perspective and ideas.
And then there is a “diverse” story constructed by an all white male board of execitives who think “wokeness” is trendy.
Movies like I Saw The TV Glow, Parasite, Sinners, etc are fantastic “woke” stories coming from the former group.
The latter group comes up with stories like “Ghostbusters but all women” or “Oceans 11 but all women” which I think should rightly be criticized.
theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
The problem with Ghostbusters (2016) didn’t have anything to do with having an all female cast, it was more about the timing of the jokes, the lack of slow quiet scenes to build atmosphere, and the effects being crappy unmemorable CGI