Duolingo CEO says AI is a better teacher than humans—but schools will exist ‘because you still need childcare’

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• finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Worst part is even after this idiot destroys his own company, he can just claim he was responsible for the highest ever peak stock share price (before he caused the decline).

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• alekwithak@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That’s pretty hilarious considering I’ve been using Duolingo (cracked apks) for years and these last couple of weeks the sentences it’s been giving me are insane and weird, stupidly awkward things that no one would ever say IRL.

  Airlearn isn’t quite there as far as speech recognition but the lessons are a lot more natural and it actually tells you why and explains different parts of the culture around the language and why an idea might be expressed a certain way rather than how we’re used to in English. An LLM could never.

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  • SippyCup@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Worse than they used to be?

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    • alekwithak@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      By a long shot. The sentences have been absolutely unhinged the last couple of weeks, and full of words I haven’t learned on top of that.

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• capuccino@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  AI can’t teach you manners lmao

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• j4yt33@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Certainly nobody needs Duolingo to learn anything

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  • pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I use duolingo every day and it’s alright for vocabulary. It actually recently had some voice exercises to practice everyday conversation and it has been great as well.

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• andallthat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  In other news: AI is a better human than Duolingo CEO

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• Zacpod@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  And that just underlines my decision to quit Duolingo when it got contaminated with AI stop.

  I can tell you from experience that AI was worse at teaching me a language than humans were.

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• Grizzlyboy@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  How can you be that dumb and a ceo at the same time…

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  • pogmommy@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’d argue it’s a prerequisite

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  • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Have you heard of Donald trump? He was the CEO of lots of failed businesses.

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• Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Duolingo is literal trash.

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• garretble@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m so close to letting my streak die because of this dude. Fuck him.

  My library (and check yours, too!) has free access to Mango Languages, and what I have tried there has been nice. But they don’t guilt trip you into doing lessons so you have to keep on top of it yourself.

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  • Red89@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I ended my streak and uninstalled a while ago. It went downhill when they got rid of the discussion section for the exercises. Add to that stupid sentences I most likely wouldn’t say in the real world .

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    • BlindFrog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I loved the conversation section 😭

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    • Litebit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I liked the short stories, but they messed that up, too.

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    • GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Why wouldn’t you talk about a bear wearing its dresses?

      Yes, the bear is wearing multiple dresses.

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  • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Mango Languages doesn’t have Esperanto.

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  • BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’ve paid for the year, so I’ll do my damnedest to run up their gippity bill.

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• thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  is there an alternative to duolingo that lets me learn multiple languages for a decent price? Rosetta stone was great and all, but i ain’t got 100 bucks to shell out for each language i want to half-assedly learn.

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  • analoghobbyist@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I just dumped Duolingo after this AI bullshit and am testing Mango Languages. So far I like it, but it is way different than Duolingo. Way less gamified and more focused on speaking. Plus, it gives cultural context to certain phrases that don’t literally translate, which I find interesting and valuable. if you are in the US, your library might offer a free subscription with your library card.

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  • Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I heard a positive remark on Lemmy about www.languagetransfer.org recently and have been meaning to have a look

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    • RickyWars@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Absolutely love language transfer. At least for Greek it was great, the founder Mihalis is a British Cypriot.

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  • flounders@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You may want to check and see what your local library offers for language learning services, some provide Rosetta Stone to card holders free.

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  • Trollception@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Nope, there are no ways to learn a language other than using an online service. Any other way is deemed impossible

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  • smiletolerantly@awful.systems ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Pimsleur. It’s very different than Duolingo, in that it is almost entirely audio-based. However, at least in my experience, it actually gets you to the point of speaking and understanding a language much more rapidly than Duolingo. Way, way less gamified though. It expects you to put in half an hour a day where you just concentrate on the lesson.

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• ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Children will just jailbreak the AI. I managed to jailbreak far-right chatbots (until certain platforms started to block common phrases for this purpose), children will be able to do it too.

  Also AI is so caca at most jobs the best it could do is help corporations to either produce more low-quality services (which at one point, won’t be sustainable) and help in bluffing their way to lower wages and lesser worker protections. At this point, it’s barely more than a toy and a spam machine, and most of its supposed cost cuttings rely on both speculations of its future and investment funds to make it look like it’s a “free” technology.

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• ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Dude sucks

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  • ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Solution? lingonaut.app

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    • YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “Join our Discord server and Sub-Reddit!”.

      Umm, no thanks.

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    • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The solution should be something that isn’t just free, but also open-source.

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• R3D4CT3D@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  oh, i get it now! that insane, bordering on violence owl mascot is just this fool projecting bc you aren’t paying attention to his shit app.

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• pogodem0n@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Any alternatives for learning Japanese? I have already learned about 500 words and 20 kanji.

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  • Dalraz@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I am using lingodeer to learn korean, but i know it also has Japanese. I was using duolingo for korean and Japanese, but the korean lessons were terrible.

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  • reseller_pledge609@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Maybe some of the resources on this site can help.

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  • engineer@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I haven’t used it much, but www.wanikani.com claims they are pretty good.

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  • FergleFFergleson@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I haven’t worked with it myself as I’m not working on Japanese right now, but I had a recommendation recently for Satori Reader.

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  • riskable@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Move to Japan 👍

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    • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t think they’re too keen with gaijins

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  • grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Give Hey Japan a look. I’m a noob, but it seems friendly.

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• isekaihero@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I am strongly pro-AI, but right now I would say it’s not as good as a one-on-one experience with a knowledgeable human teacher. A human teacher can still see where you are struggling and help you work through the difficulty. Right now AI can belch out a correct answer, even write entire essays and computer programs, but can’t as easily work with you one and one, read your body language, see the confusion in your eyes, and help you understand the thing you don’t understand.

  But it will happen. Eventually we will get AI-powered androids. I can’t wait for the day I get my fembot, with a body built for loving and a head full of all the knowledge of the internet, able to teach me anything I want, help me with my studies, teach me new skills, and also cook and clean. Life will drastically change for the better for all us miserable antisocials, social rejects, and autists.

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  • frostysauce@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If, IF that were to happen so you think the average person would be able to afford an android maid/sex slave? Because if you think so I have a bridge to sell you.

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    • Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Can I also have sex with this bridge?

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    • isekaihero@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Right now I can’t afford a car. The USA is over 30 trillion dollars in debt and can’t provide quality employment for its own citizens, yet keeps importing illegals in mass because our business owners are desperate to exploit people for less than minimum wage.

      We’re heading towards a collapse at full speed, with or without AI. I think a collapse is necessary. The current system so completely corrupt and self-serving and causes so much harm for the majority of our citizens that I think the best thing to do is burn it to the ground and start over with something different.

      All I can say, is that I take note that humans seem inherently unable to govern themselves effectively. Our history is a long line of failed nations and we have never built a government that won’t collapse into bloody revolution. We have never built an economy that won’t concentrate all wealth into the hands of a despot or oligarch, and we have never had truly compassionate government that actually cares about the people. Nor do I think we have ever had true representative government, and that every republic has worn the veil of democracy all the while empowering a class of super-wealthy oligarchs.

      I think there is merit in creating a new government run by AI. No emotion, no greed, no smug self-entitlement. No scorn for the lower classes. No institutionalized classism. A government run by entities that operate according to pure reason. It would be the closest thing to Plato’s original vision for a society run by philosophers.

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• Alpha71@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  you know, I still say punching people who say stupid stuff, would cut down the stupid stuff people say, by at least half…

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• HexesofVexes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Depends what you want kids to learn.

  Propaganda, yes; everything else, no…

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• RDAM_Whiskers@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What a cunt

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• untakenusername@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  ai can teach, and cheaper than humans, but I doubt its better than most of us

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  • Zexks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You got a Lotta faith in a group filled with religious zealots and flat earthers.

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• mhague@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  He’s right. I went to highschool with 50 kids per class, where teachers played on their phones, or hid in their office, or just switched jobs requiring year round substitutes. I took remedial math because that was what had room, and when my teacher realized that he looked like he died inside a little bit.

  He’s right… in that AI is better than some teachers. AI is a step up for some kids.

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  • CaptPretentious@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The problem, though, is a lack of prioritization in education, especially in the US. It’s a constant: more kids, fewer teachers. Teachers also get paid very little for what they deal with. Many teachers end up having to spend their own money to buy supplies the kids need. Meanwhile, my hometown has had 2 multi-million dollar embezzlement scandals that I know of. There was a news story a few years ago where the education board was making boatloads of cash, and teachers got jack (I can’t find the article, but I think it was during the pandemic).

    Most schools when I was a teenager, would gladly buy up new football gear, a new coach bus (because the one from a couple years ago is just, not flashy anymore) but other departments can’t get new books (I remember using books from the late 80s… and it wasn’t the 80s), supplies, equipment, larger school buildings, more teachers, etc.

    A teacher having even 20 kids is too many. We need more teachers, we need to prioritize education funding and standards. We don’t need AI.

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    • Zexks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You can give the school all the money in the world and it wont make a difference if you can’t find teachers. The assumption that you’ll always have enough teachers if you just pay enough isn’t true. Every kid will always need an education, not every adult wants to teach, and this disparity will always in towards the students with strictly human teachers.

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  • GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sounds like your school needed better funding and more teachers. 50 students per class? I’m sorry you had to suffer that. This is the future that people like the CEO of DuoLingo want. They want to gut traditional education. Don’t see how this makes him right about anything.

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• heavyboots@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’ll be looking for a new Spanish app when my subscription expires next year now, alas.

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  • gradual@lemmings.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You shouldn’t have given them money in the first place.

    Did you learn your lesson, or are you going to throw money at another proprietary product while thinking you’re “helping out”?

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    • heavyboots@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I mean I’ve been using DuoLingo for like a decade (only paid the last 2 years) and it’s been very useful until now.

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• drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  fuck this fetus looking cum stain.

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• Litebit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Too much hallucinations in AI, We don’t want to learn the wrong things.

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  • Zexks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah. Humans are totally reliable

    theguardian.com/…/oklahoma-high-schools-election-…

    ncjw.org/…/texas-approves-new-bible-based-curricu….

    Don’t want to learn the wrong thing right.

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    • Litebit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The wrong thing I am talking about is language related, grammar, pronunciation, vocab, spelling, translation. Are those conspiracy theory topic and bible topics taught using correct grammar, spelling, vocab, translation, pronunciation and etc? If they are then I could care less what the topic is so long as it is interesting to me.

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• cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  the green duolingo owl has the change to do the funniest thing

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• Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Yep

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