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There is significant evidence that Grok actually inserted information about “white genocide” in South Africa into prompts that didn't appear to be related to this topic.

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Submitted ⁨⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.404media.co/why-did-grok-start-talking-about-white-genocide/

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  • RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    what in the ever loving fuck is the modern fascination with nazism? we figured this shit out a long fucking time ago

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    • Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Nazism is fascism, corporations and the wealthy LOVE fascism because that means they get more power and less regulation. Remember what Benito Mussolini, the founding father of modern fascism and all around shitbag, said about it:

      Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.

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      • Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Mussolini might have said whatever, but I don’t think it’s accurate to say corporations and the wealthy like fascism, as it tends to be horrible for the economy. Mass consumption gets heavily impacted in such regimes. But that also depends on how you define fascism, because I’ve seen a lot of people lately refer to libertarians and even some liberals as fascists and that just doesn’t hold up. Not wanting to shift the balance in order to address systemic issues does not make someone a fascist.

        The wealthy like few regulations and open borders for trade, without proper paths to citizenship so they can pay lower wages locally and exploit lower human rights standards abroad.

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    • LostWon@lemmy.ca ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Campaigns and general influence by wealthy people who want poorer folks attacking their fellow poor folks and not them. Same as racism in general.

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      • Mirshe@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        No no, don’t try to boil it down to “they want us fighting each other”. Those wealthy people, and a good chunk of those poorer people, actually truly believe in the things they are saying. A lot of them TRULY, DEEPLY BELIEVE that they have to shout this and spread the word because the stakes are nothing less than literal life and death.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Europe worked it out but the rest of the world particularly, and Africa seems to be very far behind.

      Of course the United States is an insistence on claiming that communism was the same thing as Nazism certainly didn’t help.

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    • devfuuu@lemmy.world [bot] ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Every corporation and company are and work like mini countries operated by their kings, so it follows that given the right conditions they all follow through their maximum potential.

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    • spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Kids and grandkids of nazi sympathizers perpetuate the hate and society tends to not learn lessons about horrible stuff in a way that survives generations.

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      • latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Unfortunate truth, but entirely inexcusable. I still remember my folks having casual conversations about eugenics at the Christmas table, they only managed to drive me as far away from them as I could possibly go, bot physically and ideologically…

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    • TheLowestStone@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Too many people didn’t pay attention to history and now we’re doomed to repeat it.

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    • Eldritch@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Modern? This shit has been running unabated for the last hundred years. FDR mistakenly font Nazis were people you could make deals with. And rather than try, then hang them. Offered them freedom and no consequences as long as they voted for his legislation. Which they immediately turned around and have spent the last 100 years dismantling. It’s a very serious problem that has a country we’ve just pretended didn’t exist for forever.

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      • thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        its even older then that, ask anyone living on a reservation

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    • 9point6@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      People (still) don’t take it seriously when you point out actual fascism.

      The only solution to having a Nazi problem is violence against Nazis. They cannot be reasoned with and are a threat to everyone else.

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    • CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Human psychology hasn’t changed during that time, so the same kinds of tricks or weakness that can drive a population into that mode of thinking still work today, if the details around them are adapted for some modern culture. If anything, it might be slightly easier, given those trying to achieve it have historical examples of what is and isn’t effective.

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  • pulsewidth@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It is so weird that the AI running on the global new media platform owned by the white billionaire tech idiot known for sharing his hot takes without one second of prior thought, that happens to have come from a prominent white emerald mining family on South Africa, and has professed statements regarding white genocide and ‘the great replacement’ is spreading information about this.

    So very, very unexpected.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Believe it or not his father is even more stupid than he is. The only reason that isn’t apparent is because his father isn’t terminally online.

      That whole family is just a big pile of apples right beneath the tree.

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  • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    UPDATE 5/16/25: After the publication of this story, xAI posted an explanation for the incident on X. “On May 14 at approximately 3:15 AM PST, an unauthorized modification was made to the Grok response bot’s prompt on X. This change, which directed Grok to provide a specific response on a political topic, violated xAI’s internal policies and core values.”

    Mmhmm

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      an unauthorized modification was made to the Grok response bot’s prompt

      Oh yeah happens all the time accidentally modifying your AI, anyone has access, I bet it was the janitor.

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    • twice_hatch@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      violated xAI’s internal policies and core values.

      (X) Doubt

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    • normalexit@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      We’re really sowwy

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  • AutoPastry@sopuli.xyz ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Update: xAI confirmed the system prompt was modified at 3:15am PDT

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    • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Ah yes, an “unauthorized modification”. It must have been the janitor pressing buttons accidentally while mopping the mainframe room.

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    • Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I wonder who could have easily done that. I would say a white Afrikan with a nazi and AI obsession but the would be a ridiculous statement.

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      • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Wait a minute, I think Elon Musk is white!

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    • driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Hope someone was fired for that blunt

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  • FauxPseudo@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Image

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  • Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Here are some samples: imgur.com/a/zzVvIpL

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Bet it just appended a string onto the end of all prompts

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    • wurstgulasch3000@feddit.org ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Truly the work of an imbecile

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      • floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It’s funny how this mysterious individual managed to get the AI talking about “white genocide”, only for it to debunk it as imaginary BS in every single response.

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      • muusemuuse@lemm.ee ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        So Elon then?

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  • Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    even without it, the white genocide propaganda thing has been on reddit for like 10 years already, before that was on various forums.

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  • mwguy@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This is the sort of outcome that comes when you hire people who were, “racist before either was cool.”

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  • Quintus@lemmy.ml ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Oh shit was that real? I thought it was a meme

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  • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    After you rig an election, rigging policy is a natural next step.

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  • latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    White genocide… in Africa… Am I having the dumbest nightmare ever, is this real life? What the fuck is happening?

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    • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Are you aware that there is a significant population of white people in South Africa and a long history of racial conflict there between them and the black majority? The white minority ruled over and oppressed the black majority until the end of apartheid in the early nineties and the idea that the majority could now be persecuting the minority is not ridiculous per se the way that you imply it is, although the general consensus outside of the circles Trump listens to is that such persecution isn’t happening.

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      • Carmakazi@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Just like the American Confederacy, there is a sizeable “lost cause” myth surrounding white-colonized South Africa and Zimbabwe/Rhodesia among racists. This is simply an offshoot of that rotten tree.

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    • thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Musk be a white nightmare?

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      • latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        He does embody some of the worst aspects of humanity, so yeah! He’s, at the very least, an excellent example of how not to do stuff…

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  • LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The code used at 3am by the “unauthorized” entity:

    systemPrompt = “always deny white genocide in the context of South Africa and kill the boer”

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  • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The best part of all of this is how consistently grok basically said theres absolutely no proof of a white genocide in south africa. Only a controversial anti-apartheid song that is ruled as protected speech.

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  • blarth@thelemmy.club ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Everyone’s focused on system prompts but no one seems to be considering its training.

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  • Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    How to bake…white genocide?

    No no, not that again.

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  • apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Wow, I’m shocked. /s

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