We’ve all played them. Backtracking, not knowing where to go. Going back and forth. Name some of these games from your memory. I’ll start: Final Fantasy XIII-2, RE1
Every
Single
Old
Game
I hate it
What are some good examples of "Where the fuck do you go" kind of games?
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BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 14 hours ago
Drbreen@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
As an old game player. If I stop and think about it, I really hate that I get frustrated /bored if I’m playing a game that doesn’t tell you what to do / where to go at every moment.
To me I’ve feel like I’ve lost my sense of adventure.
Maybe it’s also a time factor too, I don’t have the same amount of time to play when I was a kid.
Devmapall@lemm.ee 5 hours ago
I resonate with this. I feel like I had far patience and wonder as a kid.
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
If you can’t figure out Super Mario Bros then gaming just isn’t for you.
lonesomeCat@lemmy.ml 12 hours ago
Prince of Persia Warrior Within
blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
I don’t remember that one being too bad. I actually beat that one, unlike Two Thrones
Baggie@lemmy.zip 9 hours ago
Oof yep I feel that one. I love the wheel and spoke moderately open world level design, but if you actually need to move the story it can be very difficult to find where the next bits are.
setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Fallout 1: If you play it going in blind and don’t look up help, a first playthrough can be stressful early on if you don’t know how much progress you are making on the time limited main quest.
Kenshi: The game doesn’t have quests or main goals, so it is up to the player to figure out what they want and how to get it. Certain game areas are lethally dangerous, factions can be angered if you don’t figure out their customs, and even in less lethal areas being beaten and crippled by bandits is a real problem.
Sanctus@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
The Gang Gets Abducted by Religious Slavers.
TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
hell yeah kenshi mentioned. Honestly the game feels like ‘slop’, but is fun as hell also in an old-school RuneScape type of way
excited for the 2nd game on unreal engine (but small dev team, might take couple more years)
Peffse@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
I hate timers on games that give you little guidance. People claim that Fallout 1’s timer is too lenient, but I ended up replaying (and failing) the game twice and still not coming close to finding the water chip. Also, the game constantly reminds you “We’re all dying, hurry up! Every minute you take is an other life lost!”. Same reason I dislike Lightning Returns.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
I remember the newes jedi game feeling like this a lot, but it was also effectively immersive.
Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 17 hours ago
Bro nothing will ever beat fucking metroid for the nes.
Main progression literally behind random wall tiles you have to bomb
brsrklf@jlai.lu 2 hours ago
I had tried a few times before, but the first time I actually completed Metroid 1 was just after its remake, Zero Mission. The original game was included (also as a bonus in one of the Metroid Prime).
The thing is, the map structure is the same (just with extra levels, more puzzles and ability gating). Power-ups and bosses that already existed in 1 are at the exact same spots. Helps a lot if you can just remember where important stuff is supposed to be.
hector@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
Abiotic Factor, survival in a facility like Half-Life with crafting, survival and exploration. Really great game and it’s pretty hard understanding where to go
cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 16 hours ago
I’m gonna have to go super old school on this, because I think gradually games have gotten gradually better about this as the art form advanced. The absolute worst for this that I know of for this has to be “Below The Root” which, despite this point of criticism was a mind-blowingly advanced game for its time, arguably the first real open world CRPG. I have no idea how anyone could’ve legitimately completed the game without either using a guide or playing it over and over for years to learn every possible route of progress. I think the confusing nature of the world was in fact simply because nothing of that scale had ever really been attempted before and there was absolutely no precedent for how to adequately guide players through it.
The world was, for its time, truly immense and sprawling with a multiple screen interiors for most buildings, a full cave system hidden underground, ladders and secret platforms aplenty. You could converse and trade with various NPCs in houses and wandering around on many of the screens. And when I say “screens” you have to keep in mind I’m talking about something this size. That is not a lot of context to work with for navigation.
It’s also full of secrets and hidden things, and like many games of the time you will need to find and use pretty much all of them, in pretty much a specific order, to actually complete the game. I can’t even describe how insane the sequence of events you need to do to actually complete the game is, this guy uses a guide and save states but I think it illustrates the general lack of clear guidance in almost all cases. Combine that with the fact that you “die” easily, your inventory is extremely limited capacity, and did I mention you’re on a time limit? Because the “goal” of the game is to rescue a guy and if you take too long, he dies and you can’t win anymore!
Many naive players (myself included) weren’t even convinced it HAD an ending and just kind of played it endlessly like it was some early version of The Sims.
nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 7 hours ago
Devil May Cry 4, but I was able to finish it. I couldn’t even complete Devil May Cry 3.
HiTekRedNek@lemm.ee 13 hours ago
Zork. God forbid you forget to look mailbox
Hyphlosion@lemm.ee 8 hours ago
I was playing Star Wars: Bounty Hunter on Switch today because of the current free trial. At first, running around as Jango Fett in the Gamecube era was fun, but then shortly after getting my jetlack, I get completely turned around while chasing the bounty guy and spend over a half hour being lost. Called it quits after that.
Yokozuna@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
The original Final Fantasy. If you don’t have a walk-through open next to you I have no idea how you would naturally beat the game in a respectable time frame.
Peffse@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Everytime this game got ported, I’d retry it. I’d get over the bridge, get into town, fight the pirates, earn the boat… and get completely lost.
Mirshe@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
I think I managed to get the Earth and Fire Crystals and couldn’t figure out how to get to where the Water Crystal was. All of THAT was from literal wandering.
brsrklf@jlai.lu 16 hours ago
I’ve just finished Turok for the first time. Some of these levels are absurd.
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Turok 1? Cause IIRC there’s only a couple areas where I feel you can get stuck unless you really think about things. For the most part you just explore all parts of the map until you find the right place to go.
The one that first comes to mind is the level where you’ve got to find a bunch of switches to raises “stairs” over a pit of lava. Again, IIRC. The other one is a place where you’ve got to know that falling off the cliff won’t kill you. But IIRC you can see the tree tops in that area which you wouldn’t see in an area where falling will kill you.
brsrklf@jlai.lu 3 hours ago
Yeah, the maze with button platforms is catacombs, that was definitely the one that had me stuck the longest time. Partly because of the maze-like structure and partly because it relies on a few climbable walls that are a lot less obvious than the usual and a very missable teleport tile.
There’s also plenty of places especially in treetop village where I was like “how the fuck am I supposed to go there?”. Turns out none of them is really necessary (and some might just not be normally accessible, even though they have items?) but that’s still confusing.
And even though I didn’t get lost too bad in it, Final confrontation surprised me. From the name I went into it expecting maybe a short level and the boss fight. That thing took forever to go through.
pineapplelover@lemm.ee 8 hours ago
Probably half life. It’s kinda intentionally tricky and meant to be some kind of puzzle
quickenparalysespunk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 hours ago
Uncharted 1
Nasan@sopuli.xyz 8 hours ago
Shiet, I’m still having this problem with more recent Naughty Dog games. Getting the hint option that pops up when you’ve been stuck somewhere for a while in The Last of Us Part 2 Remastered embarrasses me. Though I am thankful that it’s there.
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 18 hours ago
Unreal. I stopped playing when I couldn’t find the exit.
Tin@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
SNES Jurassic Park. NES Fester’s Quest
swagmoney@lemmy.ca 16 hours ago
Halo ce campaign.
lepinkainen@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Lego Harry Potter
For fucks sake it was obtuse. I had to use a walkthrough to figure out what to do next multiple times just in the first episode
darthelmet@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
I’ve probably played a bunch, but the one that most comes to mind is Antechamber. Super weird FPS puzzle game ala portal but with a lot of mindbending illusions, non-Euclidean geometry, etc.
It’s got a metroidvania structure but without much guidance and a lot of stuff will just loop you back to where you’ve been if you’re not getting things right. At some point I was just completely lost. I couldn’t possibly think of where I haven’t tried to go or do. Worst part if I tried to look up a guide I don’t even know where I’d begin to look.
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Uhg, I’m pretty sure I got 90% of the way through that game and then I took a break for some reason or another. Came back and was just completely lost. And just like you, cant even look up a guide because I don’t know where I’d begin to look.
Saucepain@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Unlike the others here, I would argue that this is supposed to be this way - it’s a mind bending puzzle after all.
darthelmet@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
True to some extent, but I think there are limits to how enjoyable it can be to not even be able to find the puzzles in the first place. It also makes coming back to it super confusing.
jaemo@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
Oh man. For me, Tetris. Every time.
I get past the first dungeon no problems, and find the heart container, but as soon as I meet that old guy with his kite in the tree I’m lost. I think I need to craft a slingshot or something but I’ve no idea where to get the rubber for an elastic band.
madame_gaymes@programming.dev 17 hours ago
Serious headfuck of a puzzle game.
kozy138@lemm.ee 14 hours ago
Glad someone posted this game. It had no right be fucking good lol
grue@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Star Trek 25th Anniversary Game Star Trek Judgement Rites Myst
Yermaw@lemm.ee 11 hours ago
I’ve installed Myst around 10 times and I haven’t gotten anywhere with it. I refuse to look at solutions because its a legendary puzzle game and I will not be beaten by it, but also I’m not at all sure what to do at all. I have never solved a single puzzle. I’m never even sure what’s interactive or not, or if I’m even looking at a puzzle or just seeing clues where there are none.
I should try it again soon…
Lemminnewbie2@lemm.ee 15 hours ago
Blue Prince for me right now.
KombatWombat@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Yeah it’s good in a lot of ways but especially early on you can just get stuck with no way to progress due to bad luck.
ExtraMedicated@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
La-Mulana
blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 hours ago
Can I say half life?
cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 17 hours ago
You certainly can say it, but I’m going to have to mostly disagree it’s a good example though because I felt Half-Life was very linear. What it did do a good job at was creating a convincing illusion of non-linearity, which I can certainly see some people getting lost in occasionally, but probably briefly (unless you have particularly poor navigation abilities which some people definitely do). It can be especially bad once you get to Xen, which felt deliberately confusing and not really the greatest section of the game for a lot of reasons.
kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 hours ago
My first playthrough of Half Life 2, I bailed from the boat when it got stuck on the wall in a section with lots of guns. I continued on foot through two more loading zones until I reached a section that required the boat to progress, so I walked all the way back to get it lol
crawancon@lemm.ee 17 hours ago
it looks like I get to be the one that mentions:
ET on Atari2600
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Obviously, you go home.
inferni_advocatvs@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Daggerfall
brsrklf@jlai.lu 16 hours ago
I got certainly the most lost I’ve ever been in a game in a Daggerfall dungeon, trying desperately to find the tiny wall tag that’s supposed to be the exit.
Those are torture.
Soybean@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Legend of dragoon
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Hard to recall them since I tend to drop them when I get stuck. If I look up a hint and find out it is something that never had any previous hints to figure out I also drop the game because nothing is more frustrating than guesswork.
TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
This one’s pretty controversial, but if you’ve never played it before,
Half Life 1
It’s really confusing and enemies will pop out of nowhere and kill you instantly. Not really fun imo, but then again I AM playing it for the first time 27 years after it came out 😂
I’m sure Black Mesa is more intuitive though.
nevetsg@aussie.zone 7 hours ago
Make sure you listen to the NPCs. They give you clues like being quiet around the big beaky things that one shot you. Also, if it is really big you guns do nothing. Go and find the other way to destroy it.
Baggie@lemmy.zip 9 hours ago
Which bits in particular? Because on one hand it’s a fairly linear design, but on the other there are some bits that can loop around themselves and objectives aren’t always obvious.