Submitted 5 days ago by inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
https://insider-gaming.com/cant-afford-a-nintendo-switch-2-buy-a-switch-1-nintendo-says/
Not to excuse Nintendo, but I think people need to stop being such consumers. Having new phones and new consoles on release is completely unnecessary; I bet most gamers have games that they haven’t even played, let alone finished, and are already anxious for a system that hasn’t even been released.
I think we all can be more patient and frugal, and stop following trends and releases so closely.
I appreciate this and agree 100%, but there are a LOT of factors besides just having the thing that make it harder than “just stop consuming”.
If you are someone who typically only plays games with friends, it can very much be a case of “Buy or miss out”. I have a group of friends who will probably buy GTA VI and play hundreds of hours of multiplayer together. I know I will not be rewarding Rockstar for their inevitably shitty choices and behaviour with this game (Fuck them for what they did with GTA VI, greedy assholes), and I know this means just…not playing with my friends. I’m okay with that as a thirty something adult, but for others they won’t be able to “just not”.
Then you have all the FOMO stuff - I refused to buy Diablo 4 on launch in protest of prices and Blizzard, etc. But it was VERY hard for me, being aware I was missing out on an exper
Limited time items, exclusive events, etc, can all play a factor for those who’s brains are tickled in just the right way.
I wish it were simply a case of patience and frugality.
You’re right. I didn’t consider that it’s easier to play with other people when adopting early. I didn’t consider this.
Fuck them for what they did with GTA VI, greedy assholes
Did you mean V? And by that I mean: do you mean Online?
V is still a great single player experience for a reasonable price. Online is considered separate and always was, and I can completely agree with what they did to that. I can also agree that not giving us dlc for V in favor of Online updates was crap, too. But R* still gave us a game worth the money that’s still playable right now
If there’s been some huge update with VI that I missed then, well, shit. I think I saw the price went up $10 on some retailers site, but idk if I trust that kind of shit
I’d love this comment to be a sticky post on every new thing announcement. Trouble with us humans is we like to really get into a thing that’s completely out of our control, and then we get very upset when it goes in a direction we don’t like. Being able to take a step back and say “ah well, guess that’s not for me anymore” is much better for your own mental health than getting angry at consumerism.
FOMO is a helluva drug.
Checks backlog. Yup, currently at 427 titles unplayed. Holy cow, didn’t think it was that bad! And I haven’t even added my free games from EGS.
I both dislike and like how I am called out in this post.
Exactly! That’s why I love !patientgamers@sh.itjust.works
Ohh! Just joined! Thank you!!
I don’t consider myself an early adopter, heck I never am, the only time I recall is getting a New Nintendo 3DS Black Friday edition even before the BF (the thing arrived first in Mexico) just because it was a special edition and the only way to get that model here officially… And for a good price even!
The only reason I am tempted to get a Switch 2 is because it probably means it will get exploited easier/earlier than the next batches.
Just don’t buy Nintendo.
What’s annoying about this is that (at least for me) the switch 2’s price is not the problem (outside of the USA, good luck to American Nintendo fans, you’ll need it), I get that it is expensive for a Nintendo console (I probably couldn’t afford one) but it has hardware worth the price (from what I have seen, feel free to correct me). The problem are the overpriced games, £75 is too much even for a Nintendo game
Also the greed. Charging for the virtual tour game (however cheap it may be), charging for performance updates to existing games (not extra content, only performance). Switch 1 games should just run better on the new console by default.
I’m not even sure hw is fairly priced. They’re able to sell the same thing in Japan for 100$ cheaper. I don’t think they’re losing money there.
Not to sound like a fanboy, I mean I am but that’s not why, but I get the Mario Kart price tag.
I’ve had a switch from day 1 and look in the e-shop charts about once a week, and Mario Kart was consistently in the top 20 most sold games of the past 2 weeks.
From a switch perspective, you paid $70 for MarioKart + $25 for the DLC and got a single game a lot of people played since April 2017. In that same time you got 8 Call of Duty games for $70 each ($560) - with the later CoDs charging you $30 for chores or “Battle Passes”. Or you could have paid 95 Fortnite Battle Passes (total ~$950) since the launch of MarioKart.
I forgot the point I wanted to make.
if only MK, Fortnite and CoD would be the only three options for gamers then probably MK would win this round.
Unfortunately you comparing your favourite game to two vomit piles full of microtransaction and battle passes so cant see your point there.
If you enjoy the games Nintendo sells go for it, in my opinion the inflated new prices are ridiculous and will have a negative impact on the gaming industry in global as other big corpos will start copying them if Nintendo can get away with it.
MK 8 is also a previous generation title that Nintendo got to double dip on already.
MK night be a good value proposition for some folks. It’s still too expensive. I have games that I’ve paid $20, $10, sometimes even less for that I’ve gotten more play time out of. Play time to cost is not a good argument.
Let me also contrast with some of Nintendo’s worst practices, like selling 3 old Mario games with no enhancements, that are just emulated, for $60.
Yeah, but somehow I doubt they’ll pass on an opportunity to double dip and release DLC.
Company says that if you can’t afford their expensive product, you should buy one of their cheaper ones. Well yeah… Did anyone expect something else here? They aren’t going to give you a special deal, nor are they going to advise you to buy elsewhere. This is so pointless.
And here I just read another post here about how gaming journalists are surprised their industry is dying
Don’t worry. They’ll have a return to form soon enough.
They aren’t going to give you a special deal
Yeah, Microsoft had a similar stance around the Xbox One timeframe! It worked out great for them.
Just don’t talk about it, Nintendo, that’s a better PR strategy.
“Cant afford a Switch 2? Just don’t eat and save up until you can!”
Well I’m making myself a deal, starting today, no more gas station trips for soda. If I can make it the month and start riding my bike again, I’m getting a steam deck.
I’m not a big Nintendo fan, because of their pricing and lawsuits, but I’m siding with them on this one.
If you can’t afford a Switch 2, don’t buy one.
This is coming from someone who really couldn’t afford one right now. We wait until we can or the price goes down (oh wait. Nintendo doesn’t do that )
I think it very tone deaf with regards to how their trying to up the prices of games, which I think is BS, and increasing the price of accessories, and locking things behind subscriptions.
Very much so a Blizzard, “don’t you have phones?” Type of situation.
Or, and hear me out…
If you’re working on your credit score… Go for it!
Right, but I would consider that being able to afford one.
Oh I can afford it. Still not buying it.
No thank you. Got rid of my Switch and got a Steam deck years ago. Much better.
This feels like a “you’re holding it wrong” moment.
Big Xbox One release vibes.
“Fortunately we have a product for people who aren’t able to stay connected; it’s called Xbox 360” - Don Mattrick, Microsoft’s President of Interactive Entertainment Business
Except that was about internet connectivity and this is about price. Telling people to go with the old console because they can’t due to a bullshit restriction is crazy, saying it about price is pretty fair. If you can’t afford a current gen console, then the last gen would be the best option. At $450USD it will still be the cheapest console on the market other than the Switch 1.
I’m honestly shocked people are so up in arms about the price. Doesn’t really seem like Nintendo is gouging here, a comparable phone or tablet with the same specs comes in around the same price or higher. It has pretty much every feature people were asking for at about a $100USD premium over the existing Switch.
Raising standard game prices, charging for the tutorial app, and charging for next gen upgrades, that I get the pushback on.
Or… play free retro games on a £50 trimui (linux handheld) from aliexpress!
Or!..another option is why don’t we not buy anything? At least it would help not getting more grammas sued
Imho the price is justified. By raw numbers it’s a beefier steam deck for + $30.
Oh, and you get a dock that increases its power.
By raw numbers I have around 500 games on steam and there’s a huge sale every 3-4 months. Deck is also a pretty capable computer and runs Linux. Deck can run games from many platforms, not just steam.
When no one buys them they will lower the price.
Nintendo doesn’t lower prices 😑
Watch what happens when their sales numbers are super low.
This would work, if people wouldn’t buy them regardless. I have no doubt this console will be successful, but I’m not gonna kid myself and think nobody is going to buy it at that price.
With this economy the sales numbers will be low. They should consider a 300 price point and make up the loses with the sale of their games.
THEN LET ME FAKING PLAY MARIO KART WORLD WITH MY FRIENDS ON IT
Uh, okay. Whatever?
But how will we play Mario Kart World? Why not release it on Switch 1? Oh that’s right, they want people to buy the new gaming system. Screw others who can’t afford it. It’s just a couple hundred extra bucks. Just put that extra money aside for two months and you will have your Switch 2.
My motto is (“Don’t reward bad behavior”) if a dog bites you you won’t give it a treat. So why should we reward nintenDONT for shady Anti-Gaming practices?!
NintenDONT just shot themselves in the foot cause although the price of admission increased the Eye Patches are FREE🏴☠️
HUH?! Buy a mig switch?!
Although we still number consoles, in a lot of ways we did get our “tiered” console structure.
Take most people’s daily plays, and I’d say about 90% of them or more have an edition available on the prior gen console. And it makes sense when so many of those games have relatively basic graphics - and when game engines have gotten better at scalability.
So, those consoles are neatly serving as a low budget option for a lot of gamers that can’t follow all the latest and most expensive games. Yes, some newer releases will be fully excluded; but even then, getting a brand new or used Switch or PS4 can introduce someone to a huge number of games if they haven’t been exploring options.
It would be nice when the switch 1 would grt cheaper though. Its ridiculous how expensive it still is.
Just got a tool set and replacement battery ordered for mine today, way ahead of them
SolidShake@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I heard “buy a steam deck instead”
Hyphlosion@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Still don’t know if I can easily play a Switch in docked mode on my TV 100% of the time like I can with my Switch.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
… and emulate switch games
SolidShake@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I would imagine the lack of power on a steam deck that, that would suck