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YouTube removes 'gender identity' from hate speech policy

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨IndianaJones@lemmy.dbzer0.com⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.usermag.co/p/youtube-removes-gender-identity-from

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  • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Stop using youtube.

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    • reksas@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      not just stop, rip every half decent video from there and save it somewhere else. Losing everything in youtube is library of alexandria level loss.

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      • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Do it fast, they’re trying to kill yt-dlp with DRM.

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    • yuki2501@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Judging a captive market for not being able to break free from a monopoly is just another firm of oppression, buddy.

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    • TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If as many people as possible self host their own peertube, even for just your own videos, it wouldn’t replace youtube completely, but it would be a giant leap in the right direction.

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      • MaggiWuerze@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The usual household has nowhere near the upload capacity to meaningfully stream videos.

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      • mesamunefire@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yep that would be nice! Yunohost can make it pretty easy to install for those of us who self host. Plus this is the fediverse. Totally agree!

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    • Walican132@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Any suggestions where to go? I mostly watch warhammer painting content such as tutorials for techniques I don’t know and video game content either long form retrospectives to fall asleep or guides for what I am playing. I’ve tried to get off YouTube completely but these specific niches are all that’s left for me.

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      • UndergroundGoblin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Cant help you with this specific type of content, but you could use Idvidious.io to watch YouTube Videos. Still better than nothing. No Google API, No Tracking, no Ads and pre installed SponsorBlock.

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    • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Definitely stop

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    • Comtief@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No, I won’t.

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  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So, sundar pinchai can be added to the list of CEOs that suck?

    Because a lot of the time, it’s weird that when the company does nasty shit, nobody names him as the head asshole in charge the way that other companies and ceos get handled.

    The dude has been in the driver’s seat for pretty much every major deterioration of Google/alphabet for years.

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    • Enelop@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      He donated a million to Trump’s “inauguration” and sat in the VIP section, he was already a CEO that sucks.

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    • tfm@europe.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      list of CEOs that suck?

      Isn’t that simply called CEO list?

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      • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        True, true

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    • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Don’t forget Neal Mohan and Susan Wojcicki!

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      • daggermoon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Damn we were eating good with Susan, comparitivly speaking anyway.

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    • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      sundar pinchai can be added to the list of CEOs that suck?

      Been on that list since he became a CEO

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    • Venator@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Prabhakar Raghavanalso also deserves a dishonorable mention.

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    • luce@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      it’s weird that when the company does nasty shit, nobody names him as the head asshole in charge the way that other companies and ceos get handled.

      hard to remember name (for americans, europeans, or at least me) i assume compare that to “Spez” which is very, very easy to remember and plaster around as the one evil to blame for a systems behavior

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  • HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s almost impressive how quickly the whole of the business world capitulated to Donald Trump.

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    • darthelmet@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s almost like their support for these issues was never genuine to begin with.

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      • FriendBesto@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Exactly. :-/

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      • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Was yours? Commenting online isn’t exactly fighting the good fight. Did you do anything to help shore up and defend anything.

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    • samus12345@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s too hard to change anything, but only if it’s progressive policies. Fascist policies can be implemented immediately.

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      • TheEntity@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s too hard to change anything if one believes in laws, rules and the general idea of a fair justice. They don’t have this limitation.

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      • PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Well. Being a bigoted asshole is easy.

        Actually being inclusive and nice to people takes effort.

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    • Sizing2673@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is what’s fucking shitty about this

      Every company and every politician and every person who bends over so willingly IS THE PROBLEM

      It’s like they announce their regime and these idiots roll out the red carpets immediately ready be the first company to suck the government off

      If they all stood their ground, it would buy more time

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    • menemen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They didn’t capitulate. They never fought. They just did what was the best shot at earning money and gaining ground at the time.

      Don’t ever expect moral based behavior in capitalism or geopolitics.

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    • FriendBesto@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They didn’t capitulate. They were mostly faking it all along, friend. It made for good profit at the time and to get good Blackrock or Vanguard investment money. This is why despite putting rainbows in X, or FB, or YT, or LinkedIn profiles in the USA or in some Western countries, no company ever did that in any profile outside the West. It was all for show… and money. If they actually believe it they would have done so across the board. Yet they didn’t. They were just hoping most people wouldn’t notice. Many did. There was a meme RE: this floating around from years ago, too.

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  • nature_man@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Reposting my comment another post relating to this situation

    I mean this is just them making official how they’ve been acting for 2 years minimum, as much as google and youtube want to act progressive and inclusive, people still get demonetized for talking about lgbtq or women’s issues, unless they are harassing them, in which case the video will stay up no matter how many of youtube’s rules it breaks. For example, trans NB game critic Stephanie Sterling had multiple harassment videos against them (they listed pronouns as they/them last I checked, please correct if changed) that are still up right now, several years after upload, despite those videos exclusively attacking them for being trans/non-binary, which breaks youtube’s TOS

    Companies are not your friend.

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    • FreeBird@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Months ago I reported a Nazi.like a real Nazi. With a hitler pfp. And they didn’t van him. This is the channel of the Nazi: youtube.com/channel/UCZijsnbYQawRHi-Z3DwEcTA

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      • nature_man@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Wish I could say I’m surprised, but I’ve had this exact thing happen to me several times. Several times they’ve had slurs in their profile image or banner too.

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      • gabbath@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Just don’t make a video criticizing the nazi using snippets of the nazi’s videos, because that’s when you risk getting taken down for hate speech.

        Smaller channels have this happen to them on a regular basis when they criticize bigger channels like, say, Matt Walsh. In that case, it’s because YT likes the bigger channel better for giving more ad revenue. They only ban chuds after they become irrelevant, and that’s only to save face — for example, when they banned Stefan Molyneux he was hardly popular anymore.

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  • skisnow@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    When an influential group of powerful people make hate speech a part of their standard rhetoric, is EXACTLY when you MUST block it on your platform, not a signal that it’s time to start letting it slide, you fucking pricks.

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    • Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Pichai kissed the ring. He’s colluding with the person who tried to overturn the elections and install himself as a ruler.

      All of the billionaires that were at the inauguration are in the same boat. I’m at a point where I believe the crimes of any of them should be tried and convicted with the punishments being doled out collectively to all colluders, but that’s me.

      I’d be going for the death penalty, since it seems like that is what we do now to people who cause one or more people to die, no matter how unethical the victim(s) were.

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      • vga@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I wonder if Tim Cook is there too. It would make sense for him and Apple to resist this at least somehow but…

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  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Man this whole anticipatory compliance with the fascist regime shit is fucking awful

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    • ameancow@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Welcome to how the world has always worked and always will. There’s gin to help wash the black pill down.

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    • LucasWaffyWaf@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s like Roko’s Basilisk playing out in real time, except instead of building a malignant computer out of fear it’s accelerating a fascist takeover.

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  • PerfectDark@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And people judged me for watching YouTube with uBlock Origin, or via NewPipe for eons.

    Look who’s laughing now.

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    • Trihilis@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Good lord, the amount of idiots that white knighted me for using uBlock.

      “WOULD U WORK FOR FREEEEE???”

      Like fuck off no I wouldn’t. I also dont buy up every other company I see, turn it to shit and then try to force a political agenda through it, and guess who IS doing that using billions of dollars? Yep, Google.

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      • SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Won’t someone think of the shareholders?

        /s

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    • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Those aren’t opinions I would care about in the first place. Somebody thinks you should be watching ads? WTF?

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      • monarch@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        LTT is very sure that following the FBIs recommendation for always using an adblocker is piracy for one example.

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      • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        but google’s profits!!!

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      • vga@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        There’s some justification as the ads are the source of the money that goes to the producers of the videos.

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      • Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Please think about billionaires!

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    • Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      youtube is too infested with ads, to make me disable ublock origin for my favorite channels. in anycase most of the channels become greedy pos overtime anyways. outside of pet one/animals one.

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    • floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      YouTube on mobile is intolerable these days. NewPipe is the way for Android, though Google is in a constant battle to disable it.

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  • diemartin@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Don’t Be Evil

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    • samus12345@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Slavishly Follow The Fascist Government’s Lead

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    • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If you don’t use the strikeout, you can save millions of dollar on toner/ink from not printing out an extra word at a corpo that big. I think I deserve a promotion for that insight as well, well worth the extra money!

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    • Orangutanion@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I am a building

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      • KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        WHO ARE YOU I AM FROM ANCIENT GREECE

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    • FrameXX@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Do the “right” thing.

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  • eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    More proof Rainbow Capitalism was a lie/ad campaign to take more money from queers.

    I wish I could rub this in the face of every cishet who said Rainbow Capitalism was actual progress.

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    • InsincereLogic@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      (For reference: I am cishet, but have family & friends in the LGBTQ+ community and consider myself an ally.) Usually just lurk, but I feel you so badly.

      I’ve been saying it forever as well. They’re spending millions, to specifically target/advertise/appeal to the community… out of the goodness of their hearts? Right.

      Then as soon as its “over”, the facade drops and its on to the next big event/target market. Rinse and repeat.

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      • daddakamabb@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        As a cishet I saw it what was as soon as they started it. It was about 10-15 years ago. It was sleazy then, and it’s sleazy now. They are just trying to milk the population as much as they can. They don’t give two fucks about inclusiveness or equality. They know a large portion of Americans want equality. So it’s a cash cow.

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  • circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “Don’t Be Evil”

    (I know this hasn’t been the Google motto in years – when it stopped was one of the biggest corporate red flags)

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  • ToadOfHypnosis@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Showing how truly performative their big “ally” push was during the pandemic. All their BLM and diversity support was just as performative. Big corporations are just sycophantic monsters riding trends. Avoid them where possible.

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  • spicehoarder@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I hated Google far before it was cool. I would feel vindicated if it weren’t so damn overdue. They don’t even contribute meaningfully to society. And I mean that about EVERYTHING

    Gmail is lame, their search engine sucks, chrome wastes resources, their ads platform ruined the internet, Golang fundamentally sucks, the emulation layer of android is so fucking wasteful, Material Design ruined digital creativity, etc.

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  • carrion0409@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    First reddit now youtube. Welcome to the tech broligarchy

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  • fxdave@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m not in favor of YouTube, but what exactly missing here?

    ![](lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/8b661cec-4db6- 4620-9a9a-1c7d0d0c3854.jpeg)

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  • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    While I hate Google, this seems like one of those much ados over nothing. They specifically mention ‘sex, gender, or sexual orientation’, which to most reasonable people would cover gender identity.

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  • slaacaa@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Don’t be evil

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  • ImmersiveMatthew@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That is why centralized platforms, especially powerful ones, are sitting ducks waiting to become even more corrupt. Why more people are not leaving centralized services is a crime against humanity as it is clear that supporting theme means society suffers.

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  • rob200@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This was bound to happen after the election results just a matter of time. Also, hate speech related content possibly gets a lot of clicks. So capitalism benefits. Next is, possibly but hopefully not, Bluesky’s official server.

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  • MoonlightFox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There is one thing that is vital that is missing from peertube. Effective monetization.

    By watching on peertube I am a drain on resources. A net negative. I’d happily pay to offset those costs and more, but I want it to be shared amongst multiple creators and hosters.

    I don’t want to just support one, I want to support most of the network for the hosting and bandwidth, and a certain amount divided amongst the creators I watch.

    If PeerTube introduces some sort of payment / monetization solution, it might get more creators as well. Without it I can’t see it growing fast enough to compete with YouTube in the near future.

    Well… Sooner or later the costs of Full HD compressed video will be negligible for hosting and bandwidth, so that might be when YouTube gets a real challenge. So I guess we’ll see

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  • TemplaerDude@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They also allowed a pedo back on their platform

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  • GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Keep using uorigin for blocking as. Also use Firefox.

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  • qaz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Everyone should check out PeerTube sometime, the UX has improved a lot and there’s a decent amount of content too. I recommend installing the PeerTube Companion app. It shows a popup on YouTube if you’ve clicked on a video that is also available on PeerTube.

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  • AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Fuck rainbow capitalism

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  • BroBot9000@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    As reported from a substack writer… 🤮

    Substack platforms and monetizes Nazis.

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  • mooncake@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s time to boycott Google as well now hu? Already ditched their search engine and moved to kagi

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  • Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    youtube has enshittified for a while, they went downhill as soon as they announced that they no longer backed election denial reports. then all the right wing, anti-woke videos started popping up all over the place, plus the one that try to seem like its both sides videos too.

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  • drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    A real alternative to YouTube would be so good right now.

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  • WrenFeathers@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They don’t want proof that what’s going to be happening soon, was ever mortally objectionable.

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  • FatTony@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Probably because no one is actually using any gender identity based bigotry any more. So they might as well just remove it, it saves space. /s

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  • RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Google should get destroyed

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