More proof Rainbow Capitalism was a lie/ad campaign to take more money from queers.
I wish I could rub this in the face of every cishet who said Rainbow Capitalism was actual progress.
YouTube removes 'gender identity' from hate speech policy
Submitted 11 months ago by IndianaJones@lemmy.dbzer0.com to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.usermag.co/p/youtube-removes-gender-identity-from
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eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
deepfuckingdumb@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I mean, in the past companies wouldn’t be caught dead associating with LGBTQ+ people, let alone take their money. Now LGBTQ+ is acceptable enough for predatory advertising so…idk progress from like a fucked up capitalist perspective I guess?
InsincereLogic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Rainbow line must go up
InsincereLogic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
(For reference: I am cishet, but have family & friends in the LGBTQ+ community and consider myself an ally.) Usually just lurk, but I feel you so badly.
I’ve been saying it forever as well. They’re spending millions, to specifically target/advertise/appeal to the community… out of the goodness of their hearts? Right.
Then as soon as its “over”, the facade drops and its on to the next big event/target market. Rinse and repeat.
daddakamabb@lemmy.world 11 months ago
As a cishet I saw it what was as soon as they started it. It was about 10-15 years ago. It was sleazy then, and it’s sleazy now. They are just trying to milk the population as much as they can. They don’t give two fucks about inclusiveness or equality. They know a large portion of Americans want equality. So it’s a cash cow.
zenforyen@feddit.org 11 months ago
Haha absolutely, I’m also one of the people who always said all this rainbow and green washing is bullshit. As if they ever cared for anything.
Capitalism has no values, except for one: shareholder value. Yesterday they help sending people to concentration camps, today they help saving the world and increasing diversity, yeah, totally convincing.
There is one thing to rely on with capitalism - if you convince people you can make good money with it or it is good for the brand, they will jump onto it and squeeze the shit out of it. An abstract, amoral force, made from a large number of concrete shitty people.
MasterReflection1916@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Look at the latest executive order on “protecting children”. They are planning for eugenics.
GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Keep using uorigin for blocking as. Also use Firefox.
lumony@lemmings.world 11 months ago
Switch to AdNauseam.
It clicks ads in addition to blocking them.
cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
What does this achieve other than funneling money from companies’ advertising budget to Google a little faster?
suite403@lemmy.world 11 months ago
And newpipe on Android.
quid_pro_joe@infosec.pub 11 months ago
I used newpipe for a long time, currently using a fork called pipepipe. I forgot why I switched lol
cotlovan@lemm.ee 11 months ago
As i signed up for this sub, I thought I’d be reading about technology. Actually, it seems that people here are more concerned about companies not sticking to the far left ideology, so naturally they call everyone nazis and fascists, without ever knowing what those words even mean.
Just because someone doesn’t want to play the gender tip toe dance, doesn’t mean they’re nazis. But I guess that’s not something that this sub is ready to face.
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Womp womp, get bent and bootlick your Trump in hopes he might acknodlge you for his next grift.
LMurch@thelemmy.club 11 months ago
Thanks?
redwattlebird@lemmings.world 11 months ago
Hang on. I just scrolled down the comments list for a couple of minutes and didn’t see anyone calling anyone else a Nazi or a fascist. What are you going on about?
And YouTube is a company. They don’t believe in anything except increasing shareholder value. It’s got nothing about far left or whatever. Gender identity isn’t even a far left idea, unless your Overton window is skewed.
Also, you’ve just sort of outed yourself unnecessarily as an ignorant bigot in a left leaning community with your statement:
Just because someone doesn’t want to play the gender tip toe dance, doesn’t mean they’re nazis
Of course they’re not Nazis. No one’s calling them a Nazi. They’re calling that someone a bigot.
Actually, it seems that people here are more concerned about companies not sticking to the far left ideology
Actually, it’s people who are concerned about companies kowtowing to a fascist regime, the Trump government.
wolfinthewoods@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
nazis and fascists, without ever knowing what those words even mean
I am Jack’s complete lack of self awareness
UltraMasculine@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
Seems like you are getting downvoted, but I agree with you that nowadays people use words like nazi and fascist very loosely. I’m very sure that a large part of the people can’t tell what nazi or fascist really is without looking it on Wikipedia.
suite403@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Seeing as you apparently need someone to look the word up for you.
Fascism : a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition
Let’s see.
- Christian nationalism is a huge part of Trumps support group
- Cops target brown people to attempt to deport them and Trump pardons them for ignoring court orders to stop (Joe Apaio)
- Trump continues to deport people based on skin and looks without due process. Ignoring courts telling him to stop.
- Trumps America first slogan is eerily similar to Hitlers slogan.
- Trump is starting to isolate the US from the rest of the world (but curiously not Russia)
But I do agree, they’re not Nazis, they’re MAGA. Their own brand of fascism.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m with you on the “they’re not Nazi thing”
I think a Lemmy is being a version targeted radicalization for certain groups.
But still I think you’re wrong that we can separate technology from this political stuff right now. It’s not separate. Technology is the medium that groups are using to spread this stuff. It’s important and interesting to see how they’re doing it.
Content should focus on the tech side of it. And also why be angry at the side that’s just trying to protect their freedoms here. If it wasn’t for the people trying to limit their freedoms, we’d never hear of this stuff.
cotlovan@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Sure, you can’t always separate the technology from the politics, my issue was that this is what most posts around here are about. I took a look and most content comes a few accounts, and it’s always about the “nazi this” and “fascist that”. Is that really only thing that happens in the tech space, what Musk said and what YouTube changed in their policy?
odelik@lemmy.today 11 months ago
Just your garden variety bigots and assholes then?
Also, I think you should read up on what facisim is and why it’s being so widely used right now as highly oppressive rhetoric is being pushed from many far-right leaders throughout the world.
cotlovan@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I know exactly what fascism means, and often what the left is doing aligns better with the definition than what the right is doing. Also, let’s not forget that “nazi” is a short form for “national socialism”
VerticaGG@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
get fucked bigot
cotlovan@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Your reply and your up votes just prove what I said. You’re not allowed to disagree with the rhetoric around here.
TemplaerDude@lemm.ee 11 months ago
They also allowed a pedo back on their platform
Gstocklein@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 11 months ago
Dr D?
TemplaerDude@lemm.ee 11 months ago
The one and only
mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
What about this idea:
Stop staring at internet videos all day and go get a life. Learn Spanish, take up woodworking, volunteer at your local school, walk around the block… do something useful instead of staring at Internet videos, or worse, making internet videos for people to stare at
ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Hey. I’m learning Spanish, I’m a volunteer, and I run and cycle on the regular!
Somehow, that doesn’t stop you sounding like a bigot though…
desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
What else am I going to do when I’m stuck in an office 10 hours every day?
iridebikes@lemmy.world 11 months ago
No thanks.
Soleos@lemmy.world 11 months ago
This is an unhelpful and condescending comment. It dismisses the meaningful activities people engage in online as “not life”: self expression, creating art and community, working, socializing, enjoying entertainment, and learning new things. It proposes a false dichotomy wherein not-online is utopic with universally accessible activities and, especially, an absence of the very same people who make online spaces toxic hellholes. They are present in “real spaces” too. These are not mutually exclusive things. You are likely to find that pro-social activists online are often try to be pro-social activists in person as well.
That being said, I agree that people get terminally online and that balancing digital and physical lives are important. Managing attention and mental health are important, especially when content about important and meaningful topics turn into viral and incessant feeds that are geared to overwhelm human brains that weren’t evolved to handle such constant cognitive/emotional stress.
Take care out there folks.
Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
I would appreciate it if we could just get rid of this dumbass “hate speech” rule.
AnjunaSouls@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I would appreciate it if we could get rid of this dumbass. ^
diemartin@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Don’tBe EvilFrameXX@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
Do the “right” thing.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 11 months ago
If you don’t use the strikeout, you can save millions of dollar on toner/ink from not printing out an extra word at a corpo that big. I think I deserve a promotion for that insight as well, well worth the extra money!
Orangutanion@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I am a building
KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
WHO ARE YOU I AM FROM ANCIENT GREECE
samus12345@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Slavishly Follow The Fascist Government’s Lead
FatTony@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Probably because no one is actually using any gender identity based bigotry any more. So they might as well just remove it, it saves space. /s
carrion0409@lemm.ee 11 months ago
First reddit now youtube. Welcome to the tech broligarchy
AnjunaSouls@lemmy.world 11 months ago
We need a good federated youtube replacement so badly…
nibble4bits@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
It’s always a question of money. It costs money to make quality content. YouTube has content because they share ad revenue to their content providers. That expands the more popular the content is because there are more ads displayed. That revenue lets the creators expand their capabilities with better gear and stage sets. Federated networks usually depend initially on volunteers and alternative ways of earning revenue for those instances besides ads.
lukstru@lemmy.world 11 months ago
PeerTube isn’t bad, it just has no content
HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 11 months ago
It’s almost impressive how quickly the whole of the business world capitulated to Donald Trump.
FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
They didn’t capitulate. They were mostly faking it all along, friend. It made for good profit at the time and to get good Blackrock or Vanguard investment money. This is why despite putting rainbows in X, or FB, or YT, or LinkedIn profiles in the USA or in some Western countries, no company ever did that in any profile outside the West. It was all for show… and money. If they actually believe it they would have done so across the board. Yet they didn’t. They were just hoping most people wouldn’t notice. Many did. There was a meme RE: this floating around from years ago, too.
menemen@lemmy.world 11 months ago
They didn’t capitulate. They never fought. They just did what was the best shot at earning money and gaining ground at the time.
Don’t ever expect moral based behavior in capitalism or geopolitics.
darthelmet@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s almost like their support for these issues was never genuine to begin with.
FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
Exactly. :-/
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Was yours? Commenting online isn’t exactly fighting the good fight. Did you do anything to help shore up and defend anything.
Sizing2673@lemmy.world 11 months ago
This is what’s fucking shitty about this
Every company and every politician and every person who bends over so willingly IS THE PROBLEM
It’s like they announce their regime and these idiots roll out the red carpets immediately ready be the first company to suck the government off
If they all stood their ground, it would buy more time
samus12345@lemm.ee 11 months ago
It’s too hard to change anything, but only if it’s progressive policies. Fascist policies can be implemented immediately.
PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Well. Being a bigoted asshole is easy.
Actually being inclusive and nice to people takes effort.
TheEntity@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s too hard to change anything if one believes in laws, rules and the general idea of a fair justice. They don’t have this limitation.
mooncake@lemm.ee 11 months ago
It’s time to boycott Google as well now hu? Already ditched their search engine and moved to kagi
ameancow@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Boycotts are performative stunts that feel good but don’t have impact on companies and even gets more attention ON those companies.
No really, this is a phenomenon that’s known. When people were protesting Blizzard, I swear to fucking god, people I knew for years who hadn’t played WoW since they were kids suddenly decided to reactivate their accounts because all the talk about blizzard “made them nostalgic” and despite being sympathetic to the people hurt by the company, they simply didn’t have the mental value-system to draw lines between those two things. Their own desires to escape and recapture youth was far, far stronger than the social messaging they honestly just felt was finger-wagging and parental scolding, so they rejected the idea of protesting without conscious thought.
If we put that much energy into volunteering with groups raising funds for primaries, getting to know our neighbors and forming communities, we would abolish this fascist empire in a single election cycle. (Assuming we have elections again.)
angrystego@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Boycotts are not enough, but in combination with girlcotts they are very efficient.
Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 11 months ago
Yeah, the Tesla boycott totally didn’t work…
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
Boycotts are performative stunts that feel good but don’t have impact on companies and even gets more attention ON those companies.
No they aren’t? People just haven’t actually been pissed off enough to actually wield the weapon of “ok, fine, now I will not buy ANYTHING from you”.
Boycotts most definitely work, Tesla’s stock is plummeting, and one of the major reasons is an aggressive and enthusiastic boycott of buying Telsas (also they suck).
This isn’t to say in any given situation a boycott is the best strategy to use, or that your organizing energy isn’t better spent elsewhere, but don’t dismiss boycotts when we are seeing one of the most effective high profile ones in recent memeory be VERY successful.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Man this whole anticipatory compliance with the fascist regime shit is fucking awful
LucasWaffyWaf@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s like Roko’s Basilisk playing out in real time, except instead of building a malignant computer out of fear it’s accelerating a fascist takeover.
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
While I hate Google, this seems like one of those much ados over nothing. They specifically mention ‘sex, gender, or sexual orientation’, which to most reasonable people would cover gender identity.
fxdave@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
I’m not in favor of YouTube, but what exactly missing here?
Ledericas@lemm.ee 11 months ago
youtube has enshittified for a while, they went downhill as soon as they announced that they no longer backed election denial reports. then all the right wing, anti-woke videos started popping up all over the place, plus the one that try to seem like its both sides videos too.
Petter1@lemm.ee 11 months ago
🤬
qaz@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Everyone should check out PeerTube sometime, the UX has improved a lot and there’s a decent amount of content too. I recommend installing the PeerTube Companion app. It shows a popup on YouTube if you’ve clicked on a video that is also available on PeerTube.
lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 11 months ago
Why even bother with a hate speech policy? Oh, right, money.
Cantaloupe877@lemmy.world 11 months ago
On the one hand, less censorship, on the other, something a lot worse.
WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 11 months ago
They don’t want proof that what’s going to be happening soon, was ever mortally objectionable.
spicehoarder@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I hated Google far before it was cool. I would feel vindicated if it weren’t so damn overdue. They don’t even contribute meaningfully to society. And I mean that about EVERYTHING
Gmail is lame, their search engine sucks, chrome wastes resources, their ads platform ruined the internet, Golang fundamentally sucks, the emulation layer of android is so fucking wasteful, Material Design ruined digital creativity, etc.
slaacaa@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Don’tbe evilRymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Google should get destroyed
skisnow@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
When an influential group of powerful people make hate speech a part of their standard rhetoric, is EXACTLY when you MUST block it on your platform, not a signal that it’s time to start letting it slide, you fucking pricks.
PerfectDark@lemmy.world 11 months ago
And people judged me for watching YouTube with uBlock Origin, or via NewPipe for eons.
Look who’s laughing now.
ImmersiveMatthew@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
That is why centralized platforms, especially powerful ones, are sitting ducks waiting to become even more corrupt. Why more people are not leaving centralized services is a crime against humanity as it is clear that supporting theme means society suffers.
circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 11 months ago
“Don’t Be Evil”
(I know this hasn’t been the Google motto in years – when it stopped was one of the biggest corporate red flags)
u10ji@programming.dev 11 months ago
I’m a little bit confused on this: if you visit the policy page now it does (at least for me, in Europe) still list “Sex, Gender, or Sexual Orientation” as a protected group in that exact same list. Obviously slightly different as they’ve combined a couple of different groups in there where previously they were delineated: plus I wonder if this is potentially showing because I’m in a different region. Would be interested to see what someone in NA sees: support.google.com/youtube/answer/2801939