I’m not in favor of YouTube, but what exactly missing here?
YouTube removes 'gender identity' from hate speech policy
Submitted 16 hours ago by IndianaJones@lemmy.dbzer0.com to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.usermag.co/p/youtube-removes-gender-identity-from
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fxdave@lemmy.ml 3 hours ago
spicehoarder@lemm.ee 6 hours ago
I hated Google far before it was cool. I would feel vindicated if it weren’t so damn overdue. They don’t even contribute meaningfully to society. And I mean that about EVERYTHING
Gmail is lame, their search engine sucks, chrome wastes resources, their ads platform ruined the internet, Golang fundamentally sucks, the emulation layer of android is so fucking wasteful, Material Design ruined digital creativity, etc.
treesapx@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Google search feels like it has stopped being the magic it was. Now whenever I search for something I might not find it underneath all the stuff on sale. For the first time in I don’t know how many years I’ve been finding myself using something else like Duck Duck Go.
inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
The AI nonsense, the flawed ranking and the pages of sponsored links. Honestly, Google is just straight up useless.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 hours ago
their ads platform ruined the internet
Ads were the bane of the internet FAR before Google even fucking existed.
KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 hours ago
You think chrome is bad? You should try the GCP console, 2 tabs were using 15GB RAM.
inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
It’s okay. I gotcha so you don’t got to ssy it
Spicehoarder told y’all so!
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
I need someone like you around.
skisnow@lemmy.ca 8 hours ago
When an influential group of powerful people make hate speech a part of their standard rhetoric, is EXACTLY when you MUST block it on your platform, not a signal that it’s time to start letting it slide, you fucking pricks.
Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 8 hours ago
Pichai kissed the ring. He’s colluding with the person who tried to overturn the elections and install himself as a ruler.
All of the billionaires that were at the inauguration are in the same boat. I’m at a point where I believe the crimes of any of them should be tried and convicted with the punishments being doled out collectively to all colluders, but that’s me.
I’d be going for the death penalty, since it seems like that is what we do now to people who cause one or more people to die, no matter how unethical the victim(s) were.
vga@sopuli.xyz 6 hours ago
I wonder if Tim Cook is there too. It would make sense for him and Apple to resist this at least somehow but…
slaacaa@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Don’tbe evilSnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 hours ago
Stop using youtube.
reksas@sopuli.xyz 15 hours ago
not just stop, rip every half decent video from there and save it somewhere else. Losing everything in youtube is library of alexandria level loss.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 hours ago
Do it fast, they’re trying to kill yt-dlp with DRM.
yuki2501@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Judging a captive market for not being able to break free from a monopoly is just another firm of oppression, buddy.
TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 14 hours ago
If as many people as possible self host their own peertube, even for just your own videos, it wouldn’t replace youtube completely, but it would be a giant leap in the right direction.
mesamunefire@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Yep that would be nice! Yunohost can make it pretty easy to install for those of us who self host. Plus this is the fediverse. Totally agree!
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 13 hours ago
The usual household has nowhere near the upload capacity to meaningfully stream videos.
Walican132@lemmy.today 14 hours ago
Any suggestions where to go? I mostly watch warhammer painting content such as tutorials for techniques I don’t know and video game content either long form retrospectives to fall asleep or guides for what I am playing. I’ve tried to get off YouTube completely but these specific niches are all that’s left for me.
UndergroundGoblin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 hours ago
Cant help you with this specific type of content, but you could use Idvidious.io to watch YouTube Videos. Still better than nothing. No Google API, No Tracking, no Ads and pre installed SponsorBlock.
PerfectDark@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
And people judged me for watching YouTube with uBlock Origin, or via NewPipe for eons.
Look who’s laughing now.
Trihilis@ani.social 6 hours ago
Good lord, the amount of idiots that white knighted me for using uBlock.
“WOULD U WORK FOR FREEEEE???”
Like fuck off no I wouldn’t. I also dont buy up every other company I see, turn it to shit and then try to force a political agenda through it, and guess who IS doing that using billions of dollars? Yep, Google.
SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 3 hours ago
Won’t someone think of the shareholders?
/s
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 7 hours ago
Those aren’t opinions I would care about in the first place. Somebody thinks you should be watching ads? WTF?
monarch@lemm.ee 6 hours ago
LTT is very sure that following the FBIs recommendation for always using an adblocker is piracy for one example.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 7 hours ago
but google’s profits!!!
vga@sopuli.xyz 6 hours ago
There’s some justification as the ads are the source of the money that goes to the producers of the videos.
Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 6 hours ago
Please think about billionaires!
Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 hours ago
youtube is too infested with ads, to make me disable ublock origin for my favorite channels. in anycase most of the channels become greedy pos overtime anyways. outside of pet one/animals one.
Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 hours ago
youtube has enshittified for a while, they went downhill as soon as they announced that they no longer backed election denial reports. then all the right wing, anti-woke videos started popping up all over the place, plus the one that try to seem like its both sides videos too.
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
So, sundar pinchai can be added to the list of CEOs that suck?
Because a lot of the time, it’s weird that when the company does nasty shit, nobody names him as the head asshole in charge the way that other companies and ceos get handled.
The dude has been in the driver’s seat for pretty much every major deterioration of Google/alphabet for years.
Enelop@lemm.ee 15 hours ago
He donated a million to Trump’s “inauguration” and sat in the VIP section, he was already a CEO that sucks.
tfm@europe.pub 14 hours ago
list of CEOs that suck?
Isn’t that simply called CEO list?
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
True, true
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 hours ago
Don’t forget Neal Mohan and Susan Wojcicki!
daggermoon@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Damn we were eating good with Susan, comparitivly speaking anyway.
Ulrich@feddit.org 15 hours ago
sundar pinchai can be added to the list of CEOs that suck?
Been on that list since he became a CEO
umbrella@lemmy.ml 13 hours ago
always has been
qaz@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Everyone should check out PeerTube sometime, the UX has improved a lot and there’s a decent amount of content too. I recommend installing the PeerTube Companion app. It shows a popup on YouTube if you’ve clicked on a video that is also available on PeerTube.
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 minutes ago
what’s the best queer friendly instance? :^
lautan@lemmy.ca 1 hour ago
thanks
nature_man@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 hours ago
Reposting my comment another post relating to this situation
I mean this is just them making official how they’ve been acting for 2 years minimum, as much as google and youtube want to act progressive and inclusive, people still get demonetized for talking about lgbtq or women’s issues, unless they are harassing them, in which case the video will stay up no matter how many of youtube’s rules it breaks. For example, trans NB game critic Stephanie Sterling had multiple harassment videos against them (they listed pronouns as they/them last I checked, please correct if changed) that are still up right now, several years after upload, despite those videos exclusively attacking them for being trans/non-binary, which breaks youtube’s TOS
Companies are not your friend.
FreeBird@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 hours ago
Months ago I reported a Nazi.like a real Nazi. With a hitler pfp. And they didn’t van him. This is the channel of the Nazi: youtube.com/channel/UCZijsnbYQawRHi-Z3DwEcTA
gabbath@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Just don’t make a video criticizing the nazi using snippets of the nazi’s videos, because that’s when you risk getting taken down for hate speech.
Smaller channels have this happen to them on a regular basis when they criticize bigger channels like, say, Matt Walsh. In that case, it’s because YT likes the bigger channel better for giving more ad revenue. They only ban chuds after they become irrelevant, and that’s only to save face — for example, when they banned Stefan Molyneux he was hardly popular anymore.
nature_man@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 hours ago
Wish I could say I’m surprised, but I’ve had this exact thing happen to me several times. Several times they’ve had slurs in their profile image or banner too.
lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 5 hours ago
Why even bother with a hate speech policy? Oh, right, money.
Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 hours ago
strange, they have allowed it ont he channel for quite a while, alot of the videos were mostly directed at transpeople in the form of anti-woke videos. like that channel where it had 20 magats arguing vs 1 “liberal”.
right wing drives viewers to grifters, and those have ads which benefits youtube.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Also right wingers are dumb as hell and don’t use adblock.
circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 11 hours ago
“Don’t Be Evil”
(I know this hasn’t been the Google motto in years – when it stopped was one of the biggest corporate red flags)
bunkyprewster@startrek.website 11 hours ago
Google now reserves the right to “be evil”.
circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 11 hours ago
It’s right there in the TOS! /s
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 7 hours ago
If they were really serious about not being evil, they would’ve formed as a public benefit corporation (which they did not).
circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 7 hours ago
Yes. Avenues exist. But money is corrupting.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
„Be evil, break people“ is the current motto of silicon valley.
ImmersiveMatthew@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
That is why centralized platforms, especially powerful ones, are sitting ducks waiting to become even more corrupt. Why more people are not leaving centralized services is a crime against humanity as it is clear that supporting theme means society suffers.
DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 6 hours ago
The ‘not leaving centralized services’ thing isn’t really helped when there’s basically no other viable alternatives, like is the case with YT. PeerTube exists, sure, but it’s a content desert, sadly.
monarch@lemm.ee 6 hours ago
The big problem with PeerTube(PT) is that there is no advertising. As it stands now people are burning money in order to run a PT instance and YouTube(YT) was not at all profitable for many years so it is unlikely that PT ever will be unless people start being willing to pay for people to upload their content to PT. There are ways that you could make PT profitable but it would end up making it into something more similar to Patreon or Nebula.
seeigel@feddit.org 6 hours ago
It’s frightening. Why do people not make an effort to leave Reddit?
How can the same people run a dictatorship of the proletariat? Even democracy, I don’t see how society as a whole can avoid being manipulated.
WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
They don’t want proof that what’s going to be happening soon, was ever mortally objectionable.
rob200@lemmy.ca 12 hours ago
This was bound to happen after the election results just a matter of time. Also, hate speech related content possibly gets a lot of clicks. So capitalism benefits. Next is, possibly but hopefully not, Bluesky’s official server.
IndianaJones@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 hours ago
I dont see Bluesky going down the enshittification path thát fast
Trihilis@ani.social 6 hours ago
I dont trust anything that isn’t fully decentralized. Bluesky is very weird in that regard, its partially centralised. I guess it’s better than Twitter (but that is setting the bar very low). I still refrain from using it too often.
It will almost certainly have ads in the future and will inevitably go down the path of reddit, twitter and Facebook so I prefer to use something that is completely out of reach of the CEO if something goes to shit.
rob200@lemmy.ca 11 hours ago
Hopefully. If Youtube did it, who’s to say now that Bluesky may or may not jump ship? It’s an industry. However, i’m mainly pointing at the main server, other servers on Bluesky might not jump ship so fast, or not at all (ideally).
RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 hours ago
Google should get destroyed
ToadOfHypnosis@lemm.ee 15 hours ago
Showing how truly performative their big “ally” push was during the pandemic. All their BLM and diversity support was just as performative. Big corporations are just sycophantic monsters riding trends. Avoid them where possible.
jlyndby@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
I mean they allow porn videos and animal torture videos on YouTube so like
MoonlightFox@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
There is one thing that is vital that is missing from peertube. Effective monetization.
By watching on peertube I am a drain on resources. A net negative. I’d happily pay to offset those costs and more, but I want it to be shared amongst multiple creators and hosters.
I don’t want to just support one, I want to support most of the network for the hosting and bandwidth, and a certain amount divided amongst the creators I watch.
If PeerTube introduces some sort of payment / monetization solution, it might get more creators as well. Without it I can’t see it growing fast enough to compete with YouTube in the near future.
Well… Sooner or later the costs of Full HD compressed video will be negligible for hosting and bandwidth, so that might be when YouTube gets a real challenge. So I guess we’ll see
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 hours ago
I remember the pre-Youtube internet where we created content because it was fun or educational, not because we needed money for the task of doing so.
Paying for server costs and maintaining them, sure. MetaFilter has a good system for that, they’re effectively a non-profit and have a donation structure and paid admins and moderators. The rest of the people on the site, they just make good content for the sake of making good content, not because they feel the need to be paid for their time doing it.
God I miss the pre-Youtube era.
TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 8 hours ago
I mean, sure but we are past that. No large YouTuber will give up getting paid, and go to a system with a much smaller user base so even stuff like affiliate links and sponsorships are worth less. Basically double lose money just to join peertube. Especially since most large YouTubers have a team of people who they pay, so they cannot afford for their employees sake to take such a large loss just to support peertube.
More likely this leads to Vimeo, or like twitch TikTok or something else being able to support a normal video platform than it leads to people using peertube.
MoonlightFox@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
I subscribe to a lot of full time “content creators” that are ad supported and supported via donations.
I curate my feed meticulously to avoid slop, and I get a lot of value, learning and entertainment from those I follow.
I believe they deserve to be paid for the tremendous amount of work they put in.
Some sort of ability to generate a livable wage from creating high quality content seems reasonable, no?
andros_rex@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
MetaFilter has a good system for that, they’re effectively a non-profit and have a donation structure and paid admins and moderators.
MetaFilter has at multiple points been on the verge of shutting down, now? IIRC, you pay $5 for an account.
FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Nebula
AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 14 hours ago
Fuck rainbow capitalism
gabbath@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
I’m more concerned about “anti-rainbow” capitalism. Like what’s happening right now where instead of being performatively progressive they become performatively reactionary. (Well, I suppose that’s just reactionary.)
Basically what I mean is I want rainbow capitalism to exist, but in a very specific way: I want rainbow capitalism to be the bare minimum a company has to implement if they want to exist. I want the social circumstances to force them to at least pretend to be on the right side of history.
Honestly, the real problem in rainbow capitalism is the capitalism part.
SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 hours ago
The point is, is that it doesn’t matter. Companies are not true allies, they just do whatever earn them the most money and PR
If it means to become literal Nazis, then they become literal Nazis. And sell the supplies to the gas chambers
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
A real alternative to YouTube would be so good right now.
BroBot9000@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
As reported from a substack writer… 🤮
Substack platforms and monetizes Nazis.
Petter1@lemm.ee 4 hours ago
🤬
obvs@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
What international alternatives exist for YouTube? And I understand RedNote as an alternative for TikTok, but YouTube fills a little bit of a different niche.
lumony@lemmings.world 15 hours ago
Good.
Let people say what they want and you can ignore them if you don’t like what’s being said.
Cantaloupe877@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
On the one hand, less censorship, on the other, something a lot worse.
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 hour ago
While I hate Google, this seems like one of those much ados over nothing. They specifically mention ‘sex, gender, or sexual orientation’, which to most reasonable people would cover gender identity.
OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 19 minutes ago
You still think things are run by reasonable people?!
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 15 minutes ago
No, but I think most of the people on Lemmy should know better than that.
Looks at Hexbear, .ml, and to some extent Blahaj
Oh, who am I kidding.