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YouTube removes 'gender identity' from hate speech policy

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Submitted ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨IndianaJones@lemmy.dbzer0.com⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.usermag.co/p/youtube-removes-gender-identity-from

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  • lumony@lemmings.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Good.

    Let people say what they want and you can ignore them if you don’t like what’s being said.

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    • Shardikprime@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      BASED

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    • circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I recommend you take strides to learn how propaganda works, most specifically the purpose of shifting opinion (i.e. the Overton Window): “I’m just asking questions” and “I’ll let anyone speak” are two of the most effective methods of propaganda.

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      • lumony@lemmings.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Your problem is that you want to censor ideas you don’t like.

        You want to control what other people think by dictating what they get to see and what they’re allowed to share with others.

        You are going to grasp at whatever straw you can to get rid of people saying things you don’t like.

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  • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why even bother with a hate speech policy? Oh, right, money.

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    • Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      strange, they have allowed it ont he channel for quite a while, alot of the videos were mostly directed at transpeople in the form of anti-woke videos. like that channel where it had 20 magats arguing vs 1 “liberal”.

      right wing drives viewers to grifters, and those have ads which benefits youtube.

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      • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Also right wingers are dumb as hell and don’t use adblock.

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  • obvs@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What international alternatives exist for YouTube? And I understand RedNote as an alternative for TikTok, but YouTube fills a little bit of a different niche.

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    • thisfro@slrpnk.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Peertube is the obvious candidate, but I’m not sold on the content.

      I use nebula.tv, many of the creators I like are there too. You pay somerhing, but their business model is not too bad imho.

      Floatplane is somewhat similar, but LMG is involved, which I don’t love.

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      • daggermoon@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        What’s wrong with LMG?

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    • jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The closest, at least outside of China, would be Dailymotion.

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      • Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        feel like thats specific to pirated media.

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    • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No one wants to talk about PeerTube?

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      • mesamunefire@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        /c/peertube

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      • roofuskit@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Because the user experience is horrible for non-creators.

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    • buddascrayon@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There really isn’t one. That’s why they feel that they can do whatever they feel like. They have no real competition for the type of service they offer.

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  • MasterReflection1916@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Look at the latest executive order on “protecting children”. They are planning for eugenics.

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  • cotlovan@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    As i signed up for this sub, I thought I’d be reading about technology. Actually, it seems that people here are more concerned about companies not sticking to the far left ideology, so naturally they call everyone nazis and fascists, without ever knowing what those words even mean.

    Just because someone doesn’t want to play the gender tip toe dance, doesn’t mean they’re nazis. But I guess that’s not something that this sub is ready to face.

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    • VerticaGG@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      get fucked bigot

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      • cotlovan@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Your reply and your up votes just prove what I said. You’re not allowed to disagree with the rhetoric around here.

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    • odelik@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Just your garden variety bigots and assholes then?

      Also, I think you should read up on what facisim is and why it’s being so widely used right now as highly oppressive rhetoric is being pushed from many far-right leaders throughout the world.

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      • cotlovan@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I know exactly what fascism means, and often what the left is doing aligns better with the definition than what the right is doing. Also, let’s not forget that “nazi” is a short form for “national socialism”

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    • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m with you on the “they’re not Nazi thing”

      I think a Lemmy is being a version targeted radicalization for certain groups.

      But still I think you’re wrong that we can separate technology from this political stuff right now. It’s not separate. Technology is the medium that groups are using to spread this stuff. It’s important and interesting to see how they’re doing it.

      Content should focus on the tech side of it. And also why be angry at the side that’s just trying to protect their freedoms here. If it wasn’t for the people trying to limit their freedoms, we’d never hear of this stuff.

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      • cotlovan@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Sure, you can’t always separate the technology from the politics, my issue was that this is what most posts around here are about. I took a look and most content comes a few accounts, and it’s always about the “nazi this” and “fascist that”. Is that really only thing that happens in the tech space, what Musk said and what YouTube changed in their policy?

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    • redwattlebird@lemmings.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Hang on. I just scrolled down the comments list for a couple of minutes and didn’t see anyone calling anyone else a Nazi or a fascist. What are you going on about?

      And YouTube is a company. They don’t believe in anything except increasing shareholder value. It’s got nothing about far left or whatever. Gender identity isn’t even a far left idea, unless your Overton window is skewed.

      Also, you’ve just sort of outed yourself unnecessarily as an ignorant bigot in a left leaning community with your statement:

      Just because someone doesn’t want to play the gender tip toe dance, doesn’t mean they’re nazis

      Of course they’re not Nazis. No one’s calling them a Nazi. They’re calling that someone a bigot.

      Actually, it seems that people here are more concerned about companies not sticking to the far left ideology

      Actually, it’s people who are concerned about companies kowtowing to a fascist regime, the Trump government.

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    • wolfinthewoods@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      nazis and fascists, without ever knowing what those words even mean

      I am Jack’s complete lack of self awareness

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    • UltraMasculine@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Seems like you are getting downvoted, but I agree with you that nowadays people use words like nazi and fascist very loosely. I’m very sure that a large part of the people can’t tell what nazi or fascist really is without looking it on Wikipedia.

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      • suite403@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Seeing as you apparently need someone to look the word up for you.

        Fascism : a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition

        Let’s see.

        1. Christian nationalism is a huge part of Trumps support group
        2. Cops target brown people to attempt to deport them and Trump pardons them for ignoring court orders to stop (Joe Apaio)
        3. Trump continues to deport people based on skin and looks without due process. Ignoring courts telling him to stop.
        4. Trumps America first slogan is eerily similar to Hitlers slogan.
        5. Trump is starting to isolate the US from the rest of the world (but curiously not Russia)

        But I do agree, they’re not Nazis, they’re MAGA. Their own brand of fascism.

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    • eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Womp womp, get bent and bootlick your Trump in hopes he might acknodlge you for his next grift.

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    • LMurch@thelemmy.club ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Thanks?

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  • u10ji@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m a little bit confused on this: if you visit the policy page now it does (at least for me, in Europe) still list “Sex, Gender, or Sexual Orientation” as a protected group in that exact same list. Obviously slightly different as they’ve combined a couple of different groups in there where previously they were delineated: plus I wonder if this is potentially showing because I’m in a different region. Would be interested to see what someone in NA sees: support.google.com/youtube/answer/2801939

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  • mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What about this idea:

    Stop staring at internet videos all day and go get a life. Learn Spanish, take up woodworking, volunteer at your local school, walk around the block… do something useful instead of staring at Internet videos, or worse, making internet videos for people to stare at

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    • Soleos@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is an unhelpful and condescending comment. It dismisses the meaningful activities people engage in online as “not life”: self expression, creating art and community, working, socializing, enjoying entertainment, and learning new things. It proposes a false dichotomy wherein not-online is utopic with universally accessible activities and, especially, an absence of the very same people who make online spaces toxic hellholes. They are present in “real spaces” too. These are not mutually exclusive things. You are likely to find that pro-social activists online are often try to be pro-social activists in person as well.

      That being said, I agree that people get terminally online and that balancing digital and physical lives are important. Managing attention and mental health are important, especially when content about important and meaningful topics turn into viral and incessant feeds that are geared to overwhelm human brains that weren’t evolved to handle such constant cognitive/emotional stress.

      Take care out there folks.

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    • ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Hey. I’m learning Spanish, I’m a volunteer, and I run and cycle on the regular!

      Somehow, that doesn’t stop you sounding like a bigot though…

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    • iridebikes@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No thanks.

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    • desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What else am I going to do when I’m stuck in an office 10 hours every day?

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  • Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I would appreciate it if we could just get rid of this dumbass “hate speech” rule.

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    • AnjunaSouls@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I would appreciate it if we could get rid of this dumbass. ^

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  • Petter1@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    🤬

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  • Cantaloupe877@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    On the one hand, less censorship, on the other, something a lot worse.

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