A real alternative to YouTube would be so good right now.
YouTube removes 'gender identity' from hate speech policy
Submitted 1 year ago by IndianaJones@lemmy.dbzer0.com to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.usermag.co/p/youtube-removes-gender-identity-from
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drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 1 year ago
FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 1 year ago
What was YouTube before Google bought it? Can it be remade again, or have all servers been captured?
FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Nebula
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I mean something free
MoonlightFox@lemmy.world 1 year ago
There is one thing that is vital that is missing from peertube. Effective monetization.
By watching on peertube I am a drain on resources. A net negative. I’d happily pay to offset those costs and more, but I want it to be shared amongst multiple creators and hosters.
I don’t want to just support one, I want to support most of the network for the hosting and bandwidth, and a certain amount divided amongst the creators I watch.
If PeerTube introduces some sort of payment / monetization solution, it might get more creators as well. Without it I can’t see it growing fast enough to compete with YouTube in the near future.
Well… Sooner or later the costs of Full HD compressed video will be negligible for hosting and bandwidth, so that might be when YouTube gets a real challenge. So I guess we’ll see
FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Nebula
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
I remember the pre-Youtube internet where we created content because it was fun or educational, not because we needed money for the task of doing so.
Paying for server costs and maintaining them, sure. MetaFilter has a good system for that, they’re effectively a non-profit and have a donation structure and paid admins and moderators. The rest of the people on the site, they just make good content for the sake of making good content, not because they feel the need to be paid for their time doing it.
God I miss the pre-Youtube era.
Muyal@lemmy.world 1 year ago
People expect to pay a carpenter or a plumber for their services, why shouldn’t entertainers and content creators be allowed to get paid for their work?
andros_rex@lemmy.world 1 year ago
MetaFilter has a good system for that, they’re effectively a non-profit and have a donation structure and paid admins and moderators.
MetaFilter has at multiple points been on the verge of shutting down, now? IIRC, you pay $5 for an account.
TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
I mean, sure but we are past that. No large YouTuber will give up getting paid, and go to a system with a much smaller user base so even stuff like affiliate links and sponsorships are worth less. Basically double lose money just to join peertube. Especially since most large YouTubers have a team of people who they pay, so they cannot afford for their employees sake to take such a large loss just to support peertube.
More likely this leads to Vimeo, or like twitch TikTok or something else being able to support a normal video platform than it leads to people using peertube.
MoonlightFox@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I subscribe to a lot of full time “content creators” that are ad supported and supported via donations.
I curate my feed meticulously to avoid slop, and I get a lot of value, learning and entertainment from those I follow.
I believe they deserve to be paid for the tremendous amount of work they put in.
Some sort of ability to generate a livable wage from creating high quality content seems reasonable, no?
nature_man@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
Reposting my comment another post relating to this situation
I mean this is just them making official how they’ve been acting for 2 years minimum, as much as google and youtube want to act progressive and inclusive, people still get demonetized for talking about lgbtq or women’s issues, unless they are harassing them, in which case the video will stay up no matter how many of youtube’s rules it breaks. For example, trans NB game critic Stephanie Sterling had multiple harassment videos against them (they listed pronouns as they/them last I checked, please correct if changed) that are still up right now, several years after upload, despite those videos exclusively attacking them for being trans/non-binary, which breaks youtube’s TOS
Companies are not your friend.
FreeBird@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Months ago I reported a Nazi.like a real Nazi. With a hitler pfp. And they didn’t van him. This is the channel of the Nazi: youtube.com/channel/UCZijsnbYQawRHi-Z3DwEcTA
gabbath@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Just don’t make a video criticizing the nazi using snippets of the nazi’s videos, because that’s when you risk getting taken down for hate speech.
Smaller channels have this happen to them on a regular basis when they criticize bigger channels like, say, Matt Walsh. In that case, it’s because YT likes the bigger channel better for giving more ad revenue. They only ban chuds after they become irrelevant, and that’s only to save face — for example, when they banned Stefan Molyneux he was hardly popular anymore.
nature_man@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
Wish I could say I’m surprised, but I’ve had this exact thing happen to me several times. Several times they’ve had slurs in their profile image or banner too.
AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 1 year ago
Fuck rainbow capitalism
gabbath@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m more concerned about “anti-rainbow” capitalism. Like what’s happening right now where instead of being performatively progressive they become performatively reactionary. (Well, I suppose that’s just reactionary.)
Basically what I mean is I want rainbow capitalism to exist, but in a very specific way: I want rainbow capitalism to be the bare minimum a company has to implement if they want to exist. I want the social circumstances to force them to at least pretend to be on the right side of history.
Honestly, the real problem in rainbow capitalism is the capitalism part.
SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
The point is, is that it doesn’t matter. Companies are not true allies, they just do whatever earn them the most money and PR
If it means to become literal Nazis, then they become literal Nazis. And sell the supplies to the gas chambers
ToadOfHypnosis@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Showing how truly performative their big “ally” push was during the pandemic. All their BLM and diversity support was just as performative. Big corporations are just sycophantic monsters riding trends. Avoid them where possible.
lumony@lemmings.world 1 year ago
Good.
Let people say what they want and you can ignore them if you don’t like what’s being said.
circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
I recommend you take strides to learn how propaganda works, most specifically the purpose of shifting opinion (i.e. the Overton Window): “I’m just asking questions” and “I’ll let anyone speak” are two of the most effective methods of propaganda.
lumony@lemmings.world 1 year ago
Your problem is that you want to censor ideas you don’t like.
You want to control what other people think by dictating what they get to see and what they’re allowed to share with others.
You are going to grasp at whatever straw you can to get rid of people saying things you don’t like.
Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 year ago
BASED
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
So, sundar pinchai can be added to the list of CEOs that suck?
Because a lot of the time, it’s weird that when the company does nasty shit, nobody names him as the head asshole in charge the way that other companies and ceos get handled.
The dude has been in the driver’s seat for pretty much every major deterioration of Google/alphabet for years.
Venator@lemmy.nz 1 year ago
Prabhakar Raghavanalso also deserves a dishonorable mention.
luce@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
it’s weird that when the company does nasty shit, nobody names him as the head asshole in charge the way that other companies and ceos get handled.
hard to remember name (for americans, europeans, or at least me) i assume compare that to “Spez” which is very, very easy to remember and plaster around as the one evil to blame for a systems behavior
tfm@europe.pub 1 year ago
list of CEOs that suck?
Isn’t that simply called CEO list?
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
True, true
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
Don’t forget Neal Mohan and Susan Wojcicki!
daggermoon@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Damn we were eating good with Susan, comparitivly speaking anyway.
Ulrich@feddit.org 1 year ago
sundar pinchai can be added to the list of CEOs that suck?
Been on that list since he became a CEO
Enelop@lemm.ee 1 year ago
He donated a million to Trump’s “inauguration” and sat in the VIP section, he was already a CEO that sucks.
BroBot9000@lemmy.world 1 year ago
As reported from a substack writer… 🤮
Substack platforms and monetizes Nazis.
IndianaJones@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Oh sorry, didn’t know about that
stellargmite@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Mind providing a bit more context to this so I can look it up ? I’ll boycott substick if need be.
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
I found some older news articles, but nothing more recent for an update.
nbcnews.com/…/pressure-builds-newsletter-company-…
obvs@lemmy.world 1 year ago
What international alternatives exist for YouTube? And I understand RedNote as an alternative for TikTok, but YouTube fills a little bit of a different niche.
buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 year ago
There really isn’t one. That’s why they feel that they can do whatever they feel like. They have no real competition for the type of service they offer.
thisfro@slrpnk.net 1 year ago
Peertube is the obvious candidate, but I’m not sold on the content.
I use nebula.tv, many of the creators I like are there too. You pay somerhing, but their business model is not too bad imho.
Floatplane is somewhat similar, but LMG is involved, which I don’t love.
Ulrich@feddit.org 1 year ago
No one wants to talk about PeerTube?
roofuskit@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Because the user experience is horrible for non-creators.
mesamunefire@lemmy.world 1 year ago
/c/peertube
jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
The closest, at least outside of China, would be Dailymotion.
Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 year ago
feel like thats specific to pirated media.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
Stop using youtube.
Comtief@lemm.ee 1 year ago
No, I won’t.
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Definitely stop
yuki2501@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Judging a captive market for not being able to break free from a monopoly is just another firm of oppression, buddy.
Walican132@lemmy.today 1 year ago
Any suggestions where to go? I mostly watch warhammer painting content such as tutorials for techniques I don’t know and video game content either long form retrospectives to fall asleep or guides for what I am playing. I’ve tried to get off YouTube completely but these specific niches are all that’s left for me.
UndergroundGoblin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Cant help you with this specific type of content, but you could use Idvidious.io to watch YouTube Videos. Still better than nothing. No Google API, No Tracking, no Ads and pre installed SponsorBlock.
TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
If as many people as possible self host their own peertube, even for just your own videos, it wouldn’t replace youtube completely, but it would be a giant leap in the right direction.
mesamunefire@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yep that would be nice! Yunohost can make it pretty easy to install for those of us who self host. Plus this is the fediverse. Totally agree!
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 1 year ago
The usual household has nowhere near the upload capacity to meaningfully stream videos.
reksas@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
not just stop, rip every half decent video from there and save it somewhere else. Losing everything in youtube is library of alexandria level loss.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
Do it fast, they’re trying to kill yt-dlp with DRM.
rob200@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
This was bound to happen after the election results just a matter of time. Also, hate speech related content possibly gets a lot of clicks. So capitalism benefits. Next is, possibly but hopefully not, Bluesky’s official server.
IndianaJones@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
I dont see Bluesky going down the enshittification path thát fast
Trihilis@ani.social 1 year ago
I dont trust anything that isn’t fully decentralized. Bluesky is very weird in that regard, its partially centralised. I guess it’s better than Twitter (but that is setting the bar very low). I still refrain from using it too often.
It will almost certainly have ads in the future and will inevitably go down the path of reddit, twitter and Facebook so I prefer to use something that is completely out of reach of the CEO if something goes to shit.
rob200@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Hopefully. If Youtube did it, who’s to say now that Bluesky may or may not jump ship? It’s an industry. However, i’m mainly pointing at the main server, other servers on Bluesky might not jump ship so fast, or not at all (ideally).