Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft.

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• stucljr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Very interesting 🤔💭

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• Dellpeanuts5@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I love organic maps, sometimes I practice navigation by turning location off and using a compass with the downloaded map on my phone.

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• cute_noker@feddit.dk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  What is really needed is a fediverse for git repos

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  • boonhet@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    First off, that’s literally what Forgejo is trying to do

    Secondly, git is technically already federated.

    Things are a lot better than you might think. It’s just that people naturally gravitate towards centralized services, because of the network effect.

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    • cute_noker@feddit.dk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sounds cool, So, but I wouldn’t be able to find Codeberg Repos.?

      But is there also a standard for build pipelines?

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• unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  why is Organic Street Maps better than the other ones, that claim to be Open Street Maps derived?

  bandwidth is not disposable ya’ll.

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  • Giado@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I tried a lot of them and i like the interface of Organic the best.

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  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Two reasons:

    • interface rocks
    • maps are downloaded for offline use

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    • blind3rdeye@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’ve been using OsmAnd for years, and offline maps has always been one of their main things.

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    • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      that’s enough for me, except are the other ones not good?

      downloading maps for offline – you nuts? how does anyone profit from the clicks?

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• lumony@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Everyone who is censored, everyone who abuses their mod powers; it just creates an opportunity for people to pick up the slack and create better communities.

  You only have yourselves to blame, dickhead mods.

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• rarbg@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  [deleted]

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  • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Moving off of GitHub is still good, even if you believe their reasoning behind their reasons is incorrect.

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  • muusemuuse@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Are you aware of how much open source work comes from Russians? Russians != Russian govt.

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  • tinfoilhat@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t think I want my government deciding who can contribute to my open source project.

    When Trump gets into a dick measuring contest with a US ally and sanctions them, POOF foreign contributors are gone. Community management, codebase familiarity, and open PRs be damned. It’ll kill open source projects.

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  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Fuck russia. Honestly this post makes Microsoft, Github and USA look good, and Organic Maps look bad. Organic maps should ban russian developers from contributing.

    I… don’t follow. How does this make the Microsoft, Github, and USA look good? The policy here is absolutely stupid.

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    • racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Me too. I presume half of the votes on this comment are upvotes because they only read the first half of it.

      Can you please explain how to come to such a conclusion of your second half, OP? Like you saw, we really don’t follow.

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  • forrcaho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Upvoting for the concise summary of what the article is about (thanks!); not for the opinion expressed (which appears to conflate Russian developers with the actions of the Russian government – something I find problematic at best).

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  • kava@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The US supplied 80% of the bombs dropped on Gaza.

    Do you believe US civilians should be prohibited from interacting with the rest of the world?

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    • muusemuuse@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I mean, it’s probably in their best interest to avoid us. We are a terrible country.

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    • CaptPretentious@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      As a US citizen. YES. FFS, the point of sanctions is to compel a change or deter an action. Americans might pay way more attention when the rest of the world puts us in timeout because of the terrible leadership.

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    • rarbg@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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  • Mongolianhamster@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Russian bots down voting you.

    This is how sanctions work. Don’t like it? Get your government to stop invading Ukraine.

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    • RandomPrivacyGuy@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Get your government to stop invading Ukraine.

      How about we get the american government to stop supplying Israel with bombs they drop on Gaza? Oh, I guess that’s too much effort.

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    • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Not a Russian bot. Diem voted it because GitHub is still a poor choice to host open source on nowadays. It’s like someone saying “It’s stupid that such and such switched to renewable energy instead of fossil fuels because they believe the world is flat. The world is not flat!” It’s really missing the forest for the trees.

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    • sudoer777@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Proceeds to use open source tooling with numerous contributions from US-based software developers

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  • lumony@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Remember kids, racism is always okay if it’s against the right people.

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    • rarbg@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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• interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This was always going to jappen datahoarders we have to mirror all of github!

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  • boonhet@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You don’t even have to be a datahoarder to help. Run ArchiveTeam warrior on a computer

    Easiest way if you’re already someone who needs to use Docker, is to throw this compose file somewhere and run it: Docker Compose file for Warrior

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• qaz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m looking forward to the time Forgejo starts supporting Forgefed

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  • kautau@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah with their recent grant it looks like it’s the next priority, that will be pretty neat:

    floss.social/@forgefed/114002790388336170

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• SRo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Lol fucking Russians deserve to be blocked everywhere

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• Octagon9561@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Boycott all US based services.

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  • MellowYellow13@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is the way.

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  • rice@lemmy.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Especially github. I thought all of you were supposed to leave that when microsoft bought it. I never used it but I definitely wouldn’t these days…

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  • lumony@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    American here, please do this.

    All of our companies are run by scumbags taking advantage of useful idiots. We need more options and legitimate competition.

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• MarshReaper@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This is great. Now I can submit issues easier and look into contribution. Storing projects on Github is awful. The signup process is a mess.

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• fne8w2ah@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Sucks for Organic Maps but that’s the FAANG.

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• gamer@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Anyone have the story behind this? Fuck Microsoft and all that, but Github has historically been pretty good when it comes to not banning people for stupid reasons. Usually, it’s a DMCA thing or a valid security threat.

  Recently, there was some controversy about closed source code powering a component of the project (github.com/orgs/organicmaps/discussions/9837) but I didn’t keep up with that. Could this ban be related to that?

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  • itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Some contributer got flagged by US sanctions based on their IP, I think

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    • Ushmel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s weird. Russians and Americans aren’t sanctioned from working on projects together. The sanctions are mostly targeted towards industry and defense. Tucker Carlson works for Russian media and freely travels between the two countries. There has to be something more to this, like the IP came from a known state actor.

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    • wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Ironically the US is more likely to drop the sanctions before Germany, where Codeberg is based.

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    • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Welcome to the “free world”.

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• MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  So why were they blocked.

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  • Litebit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    they were blocked for supporting russia invasion of Ukraine.

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    • boonhet@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Source?

      I mean the owners of this “Estonian” company are Russian and Belarussian (company ownership is public record here in Estonia and foreigners can easily start companies), so I wouldn’t be surprised, but I also hate how easily unsubstantiated claims spread on the Internet.

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  • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    One of their main contributors are in US sanctioned regions (Russia) so they can’t access it.

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    • Helkriz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Really! Can’t believe them. Yeah fk microsoft.

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• apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’ve switched to CalyxOS 6 or 7 months ago, OrganicMaps came with it. I have never looked back.

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• thickertoofan@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Whyyy???

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• Babalugats@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Downloaded and installed!

  👍👍

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• lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  We need something like Forgejo, but decentralized. I don’t want to create a new account for every Forgejo instance.

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  • kaidezee@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You know, git initially that kind of thing where people would send diff commits on mailing lists. And that is perfectly decentralized! And there’s no need for a federation too.

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  • pathief@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Federation is in their roadmap

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  • DasSkelett@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Gitea has basic federation, I believe

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    • wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Gitea is where Forgejo forked from.

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  • Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Have you heard of … Git?

    :-)

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    • lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There is no command git issue create [hostname] [title] [description] and if there was such a command, it’d require authentication on the specific instance to prevent spam.

      You still need to create an account on each Forgejo instance to report a bug there…

      And even, if you commit code or make a pull request… Git might be decentralized (you can develop with your friend independently from each other and merge it), but try to commit code to a GitHub project, GitLab instance or Forgejo instance without having an account there to authenticate yourself… It won’t work.

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  • LemonBreezes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think that’s bad (for my personal use) because if I accidentally commit a secret key, how do I claw it back? Basically, how would I claw anything back if it’s on a blockchain aka on thousands/millions of computers already (you can’t).

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    • JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You can make commits on your system without pushing them to the remote server, and that’s the default behavior.

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    • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      that’s already a concern. what if someone just cloned your repo? there’s also plenty of people that mirror public repos to their personal forgejo server. forgejo makes it very easy.

      the only solution to mitigate such a mistake is to
      1) invalidate the token
      2) remove the commit

      In that order.

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    • holdstrong@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If you push a secret key you should definitely generate a new one. Way to many bots out there that scan new commits for exactly that reason

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    • lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I did not mean decentralized hosting of the projects (e.g. your project will be on all instances).

      I meant decentralized account usage (e.g. you can use your example.com forgejo account to create an issue on otherexample.org)… Just like Lemmy… I could use my reddthat.com lemmy account to create a post on your instance lemmy.world without having to register there.

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    • fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Obviously you go and change the key?

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    • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You are correct in principle, but Lemmy isn’t on a blockchain. It’s much less permanent.

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  • passenger@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There is this, havent tried

    radicle.xyz

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  • ftbd@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Git is already decentralized, nothing is stopping you from adding multiple remotes to your repo.

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    • twice_hatch@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The issue tracker is usually the concern

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  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Rather have it on IPFS or something like OrbitDB, so no one can just lock/delete stuff.

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  • karthie@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    if you are looking for decentralised vcs you can try radicle, I tried a while ago pretty good.

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    • lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      FYI Forgejo supports mastodon login

      That’s interesting. Did not even know, Mastodon supported doing something like this…

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  • elrecoal19_1@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Wouldn’t it be the other way around, having someone centralized so with one account you can report bugs in any public project?

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    • BoJackHorseman@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Do you know how lemmy works?

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  • hoppolito@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Forgejo is in fact working on being decentralized, just like the underlying git structure is. There are some first federation things in there, but the full implementation is still pretty far out.

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    • endofline@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Git is decentralized itself… You don’t even need forgejo to host your changes

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• unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Nice! It even supports the same RSS feed format. For anyone who also wants FOSS releases injected straight into their veins git.omaps.dev/organicmaps/…/releases.atom

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• MITM0@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I always kept telling Free-software & OpenSource projects to move to GitLab, Codeberg or SourceHut

  You cannot fight capitalists on a capitalists platform.

  & if you want something that’s even more independent try Fossil

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  • xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    By what standard is GitLab not a “capitalist platform”? It feels even more corporatey than GitHub. From their homepage:

    GitLab is the most comprehensive AI-powered DevSecOps Platform.

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    • MITM0@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah but it’s not Microsoft-controlled

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• nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  ai driven anti-spam is destroying the internet

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• gerowen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Why did they get removed? I feel like I’m missing a whole backstory here.

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• _____@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Extremely based

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• cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  is forgejo the same thing as codeberg? it looks similar… just curious

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• viking@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  As long as they are still publishing the apk to f-droid, as a user I hardly care where it’s hosted.

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• Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  There is some serious crapitalist hate for organic maps. I never heard of it util is was taken off the play store for a bit. I side loaded it that day.

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• Jankatarch@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I wish, but when I am looking gor a job the employer will look at the green squares and leetcode score or something stupid like that instead of my projects or having a discussion in general.

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• Dadifer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Who could have ever anticipated Git hub going to shoot after Microsoft bought it

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• Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  So wait.

  GitHub is Microsoft?

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• Pirata@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Ah, the threatened oligarchy is at it again. I’m sure its purely a coincidence and not at all a retaliation for people abandoning big tech en masse.

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