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• prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Russia is being sanctioned because of its aggressive war against Ukraine.

  Microsoft aren’t the bad guys for enforcing international sanctions.

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  • yuriRO@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So a person that happens to be iving in a sanctioned country, makes them banned? Bullshit

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    • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes. That’s how sanctions work.

      Part of the intention is to pressure citizens of the country for violating international law so they exert pressure on their governments to stop.

      Another part is to remove the use of tooling.

      Russia could stop the war and problem is solved. This isn’t Microsoft being the bad guy, this is Microsoft following international law.

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      • planish@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Does that work?

        Is it right to tell random people “hey you, it’s your job to break local laws and topple your dictator, we could invade you with actual trained military people but that would be inconvenient for us”?

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    • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I assume most Russian GitHub users use a VPN to avoid it. He has chosen not to in order to make a point.

      The real worry is what happens when the US declares sanctions on random allies in their stupid “trade war”…

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      • ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Once the US starts saying that nobody who trades with the US can deal with Canada, Denmark, Mexico, etc… then it starts to get interesting.

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    • Litebit@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      yes, that is the purpose of sanction. to target the lowest rung of society for supporting and promoting the invasion of Ukraine.

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    • philpo@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes,you understand how sanctions work.

      A person living in a sanctioned country can also no longer buy certain things, travel to certain countries or use certain services. You couldn’t buy a Boeing Plane during WW2 in Germany as well…

      And considering that Russia is waging a fucking genocidal war and a hybrid war in Europe and a majority (according to relatively independent statistics) of the population stil supports that shit and has done so for a long time (when they still could have changed course) it’s god damn right these sanctions exist.

      BTW: Cuba is being sanctioned by the US for simply nationalising US held companies (Fidel Castro wasn’t that much of a communist in the beginning) since 1960 and basically none gave or gives a rats ass.

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      • lumony@lemmings.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        a majority (according to relatively independent statistics) of the population stil supports that shit and has done so for a long time

        Most Russians are afraid to talk about politics at all. Their responses when questioned are either “I agree with what the government is doing” or “I don’t talk politics.”

        We should be strengthening our ties with these oppressed people in order to help them, and help Ukraine as a result. Instead we’re doing the “average intelligence” play of furthering their oppression while funneling money to the MIC.

        This war has been a great example of how many useful idiots are around us.

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    • lumony@lemmings.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It is bullshit, you’re right.

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  • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sanctions are bullshit economic violence. This is a great example.

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    • EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Probably better this economic violence than I dunno, the physical violence Russia has exerted on the Ukrainian populace?

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      • lumony@lemmings.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Not sure why you’re arguing “better” when we have both.

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    • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      K

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  • Helkriz@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So what about the organic map users. They should ban the contributor if they need to ban it soo bad.

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    • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      that’s practically impossible. TOR is alive and well, as if any rando in any country sanctioned by the u.s. cares.

      of course they could Great China Firewall the shit out of everything and still fail.

      but we’re on the downward spiral, so be gleeful!

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• Geodad@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Microsoft literally had no choice.

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  • glitchdx@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    when you’re a corporation with billions of dollars and US politicians cost millions on the high end, you can choose to do whatever you want.

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    • NikkiDimes@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “Microsoft continues to work with Russians despite sanctions due to ongoing war in Ukraine” is probably not a headline they want to see.

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      • glitchdx@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Of course not, but can you say that it’s not convenient for them to stiffle foss alternatives to microsoft/apple/google software? many open source projects are at least partially made by russian developers.

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    • kaidezee@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It is still an unnecessary risk for them.

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      • glitchdx@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        true, but let’s not pretend that they were without agency in this decision and in decisions leading up to the current context.

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  • lumony@lemmings.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Government and major corporations are the exact same entity in the US.

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  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Exactly. The real issue is the sanctions against Russia. Why those sanctions involve FOSS projects, I’ll never understand.

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