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The future of the internet is likely smaller communities, with a focus on curated experiences

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨misk@sopuli.xyz⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.theverge.com/press-room/617654/internet-community-future-research

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  • MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So the past of the internet?

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    • rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The original web 3 was supposed to be a return to form of web 1, with the good stuff of web 2 and decentralized. Then cryptobros hijacked it

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      • horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        We’re taking it back.

        …flipboard.com/…/how-to-get-started-in-the-fedive…

        There’s more than just lemmy

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      • PugEnjoyer@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I don’t think I’ve really seen any literature about web3 that wasn’t a crypto scam in a trench coat. Do you have any links or info about the original goals of web3?

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    • Blisterexe@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      History rhymes and all that

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      • ThePantser@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        “Time flows like a river, and history repeats.” -Secret of Mana

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    • 667@lemmy.radio ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Everything old is new again.

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  • Fake4000@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Basically forums

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    • Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Maybe we’ll use newsgroups for actually talking to people again

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      • ThePantser@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Arr, those be the high seas now

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    • misk@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The thing is that many people, myself included assumed most were dead and cannibalised by Reddit and Facebook groups. Turns out those specialised places have been running continuously on their own pace. Yeah, threads can still span hundreds of pages but in the end going through them makes you an expert on things overnight ;)

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      • boatswain@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Oh my God, the Something Awful forums are still up: forums.somethingawful.com

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    • LiamMayfair@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Bring them back! I for one would rather use a forum over a fucking Discord server any day of the week. At least forums are open, searchable and discoverable. Good luck finding the answer to a question you have that some poor sod like you may have also asked in a Discord server months or years ago.

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      • Wojwo@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        God I hate discord.

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    • beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      And mailing lists!

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    • JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes, but this time deep web forums that are unsearchable/unindexed so that information is lost forever! (Discord, telegram, matrix)actually that might actually be a return to web 1 forums before search engines were giant and all forum seach engines sucked ass 😂

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  • samus12345@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It is for me, but I have my doubts that the majority will avoid the corporate-owned spaces.

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    • MangoCats@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think it’s always going to be a sort of long-tail phenomenon, with most people involved in the biggest platforms, but a large number of small platforms that attract a minority of the overall population.

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    • fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They’re getting so shit people will have no choice. They’re already leaving one alienated group at a time

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  • MyOpinion@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I think by now we have figured out the majority of people are garbage and you only want to spend time with a select group. Discord seems to have this figured out.

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    • commander@lemmings.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Some majorities are bigger than others.

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    • dontbelasagne@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It depends on the discord. I joined a discord where the most narcissistic people were there and they singled me out for whatever reason because I wasn’t just simply going with their thinking. There was another member that thought like me but their own narcissi tendencies made up a conspiracy theory that somehow that was my alt. I didn’t even know the guy irl. It’s a shame as I was interested in the subject matter of the discord but I guess if enough village idiots own a discord, the smart villager is seen as the idiot.

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  • EarlGrey@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    …smaller communities

    So like it was before the dawn of Reddit and social media?

    Sign me the fuck up. I miss my dumb little websites with a dodgy layout full of terribly cropped gifs.

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    • PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      But how will we find any of these small sites with the dogshit search is lately.

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      • madjo@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Webrings, index pages, pure chance

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  • kameecoding@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I wasn’t too early, but I joined reddit around the Dota 2 beta, so circa 2012, and damn the site became more and more garbage the more people it had, most comments became nothing but karma farming one liners, references or snide shit.

    Communities grew into massive echo chambers, quality of discussions went down the drain.

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    • JoYo@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      now they’re heading to lemmy to do the same thing

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      • kameecoding@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        meh, lemmy is pretty stagnant from what I have seen, plus you can create your own instance and mostly defederate from a lot of stuff.

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  • baatliwala@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Real issue is how much effort are people willing to put to maintain those communities.

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  • cy_narrator@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Just like as it was in the past

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  • Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Check out Neocities, a great community of indie web fans, built in the spirit of the old GeoCities sites.

    Some really great sites there, it really captures that late 90’s to early 2000’s internet vibes.

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    • AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Definitely depends on the site because I’ve seen some impressive modern looking sites in the past, but a lot of sites I find on there definitely encapsulate that vibe in a great way.

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  • SplashJackson@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The future is the past!

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  • Glent@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Is there something like a masterlist of forums. Id like to join some but dont know where to look.

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    • turtle@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The best I can think of off hand is to look at the mobile apps that are designed to interact with traditional forums, because they will have directories of all the ones that are integrated with them. For example, Tapatalk and Fora Communities. You should be able to find thousands of forums categorized in those apps? I’ve never used these apps myself, but have heard of them.

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  • futatorius@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Curated experiences are the reason we’re in the shit right now.

    But yeah, maybe boutique curated exepriences will somehow be qualitatively different, and not just finer market segmentation.

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    • misk@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think they meant human-curated.

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      • LiamMayfair@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’d say genuine. Genuine experiences. Sharing shit for sharing’s sake. Not for better SEO. Not for profit. Just unadulterated human expression.

        That’s how I envision using the internet for entertainment in the near future. I’ll still use the shitty corporate sites when I must, for transactional browsing. I’m not going to pretend I can push Amazon, Microsoft, Google, online banking, etc. out of my life just like that.

        But I will actively seek authentic spaces. They will be a tad smaller than your average social network, Reddit, and whatnot. But I’m certain they’re out there and more people will join me in this search and populate these small spaces as time goes on.

        Lemmy, Mastodon, the IndieWeb movement. The first steps. I hope to find more!

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    • MangoCats@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Not all of Reddit works, but some of it does for some people, and the reason it works for them is because the moderators shape communities that the community members enjoy participating in.

      Personally, I think active communities below the Dunbar number (about 150) in size are some of the most rewarding to participate in, long term. But, there are always a lot of people who flock to wherever the biggest crowds are.

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  • SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It costs money to run these things so monetization always rears its head.

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    • misk@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It can be commoditised but it’s hard to gain mindshare against monopolies like Facebook. It doesn’t really cost that much to run a small board / forum / chatgroup.

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  • Winterfrost@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    First the internet needs to rise against techno-fascism!!

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  • _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    yes, but where could we find something like that?

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  • singletona@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    tildeverse.org

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    • circledot@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Links like that feel like the time I first had access to the Internet. Kinda weird but very very interesting. Thank you.

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      • singletona@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Full disclosure: I’ve been part of that cluster of communities for a couple years now. Best advice i have to give to anyone is to take their time. The speed of conversation often slows way WAY down.

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  • ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The future of the web may be relearning the browser (and other tools)

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  • SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And preferably a bit harder to use to keep the script kiddies out.

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    • lepinkainen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Most small group forums have manual user validation with very specific questions.

      I’ve seen stuff like “what is on the the 5th page of the user guide for this product” along with language/culture specific questions you can’t just easily google on forums that are focused on a specific area

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  • crawancon@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    so lemmy.

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  • pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Small communities where one can talk about specific subjects? Man there’s something like that already and people can run it from their own computers too, forgot the name though.

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  • Rooty@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Thank fuck the corporate silo era is (slowly) coming to an end. And they tried so hard to turn it into TV 2.0.

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  • Shardikprime@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So a field of circle jerks

    Oh how the mighty have fallen

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  • shotgun_crab@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And that’s how it started. are we approaching a big crunch of sorts?

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    • TheRedSpade@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      First infinity didn’t go great. Not sure I want to see more.

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  • finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Divide and conquer I guess

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Does the Networking Effect suddenly no longer apply to internet applications? Seems like we’re just seeing people gradually migrate from older and less functional applications like Twitter and Facebook over to newer and more functional applications like BlueSky and RedNote.

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  • werefreeatlast@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Heck no.

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