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If you go the video, www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsjHMzGl-VY. You will see it’s gone. So Youtube being Youtube.
I have no longer watched their content since the scandal.
Linus Tech Tips uploaded a video showing how to block ads on Youtube. Which was removed by Youtube for community guidelines violations.
Submitted 2 months ago by hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works to technology@lemmy.world
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wolfcatreader@lemmy.world 2 months ago
TheMinions@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Which one?
2pt_perversion@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Probably the sexual harassment one that’s when I left. The billet labs stuff was bad too though.
rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 2 months ago
For those curious cbc.ca/…/linus-tech-tips-youtube-controversy-1.69…
flork@lemy.lol 2 months ago
Thanks for sharing? Why is every Lemmy single comment section filled with unrelated iamverysmart comments.
LiPoly@lemmynsfw.com 2 months ago
Excuse me, I use Arch and Firefox with uBlock.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Ok linus.
CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’ll be that guy. I don’t understand why LTT gets so much crap from people constantly, they seem to have a very toxic community even without the scandals. But in regards to the more recent scandal, I really think a lot of those things are fixable and I’ll be watching to see if they fix them.
As far as the sexual harassment stuff goes I can see that as a legitimate reason to stop watching. At the same time though, how should we feel with such limited and one sided information? And especially how should I feel if the problems aren’t inherent to the company and if they don’t reoccur?
Maybe someone can help clear this up for me because I’m not that informed and I’m still giving them a chance but maybe I shouldn’t be.
BluesF@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Check the other comment thread from the parent, there’s a discussion which goes into it.
CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I don’t understand why LTT gets so much crap from people
Because their clowns. Literally. Their content is pure tech entertainment with constant immature humour and little substance. The way they present themselves is like a group of teenagers messing around.
Then there’s their “expertise”. They don’t know tech beyond a Windows “power user”.
But in regards to the more recent scandal, I really think a lot of those things are fixable and I’ll be watching to see if they fix them.
Linus showed his true colours during the Billet Labs incident. He doubled down hard, and I’m convinced that even today Linus feels like he did nothing wrong. They have zero reputation to salvage, IMO.
stoly@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I stopped because they are bro douchebags.
potustheplant@feddit.nl 2 months ago
Even Luke, who I always agreed with the most and seemed the most level-headed has talked about their hiring process and said that, if you don’t have personal projects, it’s highly unlikely that you’ll be considered for a position in LTT.
Supposedly it’s because that shows a “lack of passion”. Personally, I find that rather toxic. Like, dude, I do this for work and I also have a life. I literally do not have enough time to exercise, take care of my loved ones and also maintain personal projects.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Same.
aluminium@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I don’t care for Linus these days but respect for that.
ours@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah, I got tired of his videos half-assing the work and the failed reviews hurting small manufacturers while Linus doubled down after GN documented their failures.
But this I can get behind.
dev_null@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Doubled down? After being called out they slowed the upload cadence, are taking more time to make sure mistakes don’t get through, and changed their production process. They also formed a volunteer team of “beta tester” viewers who see each video pre-release to catch any mistakes they didn’t internally. I think they handled it well. Of course it would be better if they didn’t have a problem in the first place, but I’d never call it “doubling down”.
dustyData@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Friendly reminder that pirates didn’t usually stole gold. Piracy was stealing shipping goods, then selling them for profit at some port. Digital piracy is thus defined as acquiring, and then distributing for profit, media that you don’t own the copyrights of. Ad blocking is categorically not piracy.
merc@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Also, “piracy” or “copyright infringement” isn’t theft in any sense.
A key element of theft is that you deprive the rightful owner of something. You now have it and they no longer do. What makes it wrong is that the person who should have it no longer does. It’s not that you have it. That’s why the punishment for “mischief” where someone completely destroys something belonging to someone else is similar to the punishment for the theft of that same object.
Copyright infringement is breaking the rule that the state imposed giving someone the exclusive right to control the copying of something. You’re not depriving anyone of anything tangible when you infringe a copyright. They still have the original, they still have any copies they made, any copies they gave out or sold are still where they were. The only thing you’re doing is violating the rule that gave them exclusive control. If you’re depriving someone of anything, it’s depriving them of the opportunity they might have had to make money from selling a copy.
If anything, copyright infringement is more similar to trespassing than to theft. Just like copyright infringement, trespassing involves not allowing someone to control who accesses their property. If you sneak onto someone’s campground property and have a bonfire party, the person loses the opportunity to rent out the campground for the bonfire, and any money they might have received for doing that. But, if you sneak in and sneak out and leave no trace, you could argue that nobody is harmed.
HK65@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
If you sneak onto someone’s campground property and have a bonfire party
Ah, I would say that is worse than piracy, since you deprive them of the ground for a time. A better analogy would be sneaking into the party they are having and enjoying it with them without paying for an invitation. Or sneaking into a concert.
Gingernate@programming.dev 2 months ago
Closing your eyes, walking out of the room, changing the channel during the commercial break, all piracy. Hahahahahhahaha. Fuck these corporations
OutsizedWalrus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This is some sovereign citizen mental gymnastics.
Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Anybody who needs to be told this is either a newborn or braindead.
daellat@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Of you didn’t watch the full video, which is fair enough, it’s a point Linus makes which the comment refers to. So Linus is either newborn or braindead? I mean ok maybe. 🗿
silentknyght@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You’re being pedantic, but I’m sure you understand the point.
dustyData@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’ll spare you the troubles.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
It doesn’t have to be for profit, but it does require distribution of content you don’t have the rights to redistribute. I think it’s also fine to lump in acquiring content that you don’t have the rights to (i.e. it doesn’t matter which end of the transaction you’re part of).
Blocking ads is merely a TOS violation, and it only applies if you actually agree to the TOS. If you don’t consent to the TOS and the platform doesn’t make any attempt to prevent you from using the service, then I think you have an argument that the TOS doesn’t apply. I use YouTube w/o a YouTube account, so I don’t consent to their TOS, but they still happily serve up content. So in my understanding, I’m not even violating any TOS because I haven’t agreed to any, I’m just using their website with an add-on that blocks certain URLs. If YouTube decides to prevent me from accessing their content w/o agreeing to their TOS, then I’ll probably stop watching YouTube, or maybe I’ll decide to accept their TOS, idk, because it hasn’t happened yet.
That said, I do feel bad for creators not making money from me blocking YouTube’s ads, so I tend to donate or buy merch on occasion, and that eases my conscience. Regardless, I’m quite sure that if YouTube tried to argue that blacking ads was somehow a copyright violation, that they’d lose.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Funny, considering in the past he’s gone on big rants about how adblocking is no different from piracy, and is theft.
But then again, its Linux we’re talking about, its not like he has a particularly big issue with theft.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 months ago
I don’t understand why people are all pro-piracy but then get offended when someone accuses them of piracy…
He never went on any “big rants”. He’s mentioned it a few times, and he’s right. You’re bypassing payment (in the form of watching ads) to watch the video. LTT doesn’t really care because AdSense only makes up a small portion of their income, which is why he’s shown many different times, many different ways to block/bypass advertising. I could make an argument about how he’s “pulling up the ladder behind him” but I digress.
Regardless “piracy” is a fairly convoluted term with no concrete definition and it’s a dumb argument for anyone to have.
piccolo@ani.social 2 months ago
Its not piracy though… its the same as if you recorded television and then… skip over the ads. TiVo was doing that 25 years ago.
GaMEChld@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This is correct, he both explained how ad blocking hurts creators, and how ultimately he doesn’t mind because purchasing merch is way more beneficial to them then the adsense money.
All he was doing is do what you want to do but don’t pretend your actions don’t impact other people. Do it with open eyes if you’re going to do it.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You’re bypassing payment (in the form of watching ads)
By this argument going to the bathroom during a commercial break is piracy.
berengal@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah, him calling it piracy or not doesn’t matter, it’s just a stupid semantic argument that doesn’t matter at all to his overall point. And while I think it’s a stupid take of him, it’s also the reason people are still bringing up his opinion on the matter, so good job of him spreading his message I guess?
futatorius@lemm.ee 2 months ago
If they want payment, they can require registration, agreement to payment and authentication. Nothing’s stopping them. If they put something on the open web and try to monetize it, nobody owes them a living. If I put a display in a shop window, and include wording that says that looking at the display means you’re obligated to also hear a sales pitch, everyone will rightly tell me to fuck off.
Choosing not to load potential spyware, malware and bloatware while looking at free content is no more piracy than is crossing the street while shopping to avoid a tout.
FUBAR@lemm.ee 2 months ago
He did address this in the video
baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 2 months ago
I think he mentioned it is priacy, but I don’t recall he said it is theft or piracy is inheritly unethical.
He mentioned many time that he pirates stuff, except he would pay for them first.
Kbobabob@lemmy.world 2 months ago
So you have a source? I’ve watched his videos for awhile but I don’t remember hearing this take from him.
TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 2 months ago
No, because that isn’t Linus’s take.
I think he’s referencing a stream once upon a time where Linus discussed the arguments around streaming and it’s impact on creators, from a creator’s perspective .
But because he uttered something in favor of ads on his videos-which is how they got paid-he’s now considered ultra pro invasive ads by the user above, who professes to not actually watching Linus
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It was in one of his streams with Luke. I dont remember the exact one, I’m sorry.
majestictechie@lemmy.fosshost.com 2 months ago
It was on an episode of the WAN show a while back (I don’t know which, I stopped watching a while ago). He said if you’re not paying for the service or watching the Ads, it’s the same as Piracy because your not paying what’s owed.
SendMeHappyThings@reddthat.com 2 months ago
I watched this video before it was taken down. At the start of the YouTube section he says something along the lines of “I think ad block is theft, but you’re going to do it, so I have a responsibility to make sure you do it safely.”
hanabatake@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
He talks about it in this video (the video this thread is about)
Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
It’s a little bit more nuanced than that. Yes you’re denying ad revenue but it’s not a bad thing.
futatorius@lemm.ee 2 months ago
They are being paid by third parties to shove something in your face that you didn’t come to see in the first place. They’re not entitled to earn a cent from that, regardless of what bait they choose to place in the trap.
Who elected them and who consented to this manipulative, intrusive arrangement?
Aceticon@lemmy.world 2 months ago
“These are my Principles and if you don’t like them, I have others”
JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Linus didn’t say piracy is theft to my knowledge. He pirates a bunch of games.
ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Well that’s a thumbnail I’d never click on
praise_idleness@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Their video about thumbnail A/B testing was quite interesting to see. Considering how they have dedicated designers to make these thumbnails I guess that works pretty well, despite your personal opinion on it, with which I agree too.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You have to understand shit like these thumbsnails arent made for people like you and me.
They are made for the mindless horde of sub-intellectual gremlins who are incapable of rational, independent thought. The kind that run out and put sandpaper on their windshield wipers and microwave their phones to “fast recharge” them because they saw a video that said to do that.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 months ago
Unfortunately this is just the way it is on YT now. Post clickbait thumbnails, or miss out on hundreds of thousands of views. Because that’s the way YT likes it. They don’t want to positively weight long-term high-quality content, they want to promote clickbait.
dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 2 months ago
All of their thumbnails are unfortunately click-baity. They spoke about ut in an older video. Apparently, the click-baity images drive too much traffic for them to justify something more subtle.
friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 2 months ago
There’s a Firefox plugin that replaces YT thumbnails with stills from the video. It makes browsing YT so much better.
mage@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
what the shit is going on with that neon ass hair
yamanii@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Doesn’t matter how good the video is if nobody clicks on it, Veritasium already made a great one about it: www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2xHZPH5Sng
sverit@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
/r/punchablefaces material
Mobiledecay@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I bet they removed it faster than a porn video on YouTube Kids! 😲
ober@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Low bar
Mwa@thelemmy.club 2 months ago
why cant yt delete the nsfw video instead they just age restrict it
skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
don’t you know, it’s hate speech against corporate profits
PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Of course de-googling your life is a violation of the terms is service…
KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Ah so its war you want, YouTube.
phoneymouse@lemmy.world 2 months ago
What happened to his hair?
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 months ago
…to the surprise of absolutely no one who’s been paying attention. They got rid of the coalmine canary clause like a fucking decade ago.
anubis119@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Obligatory Louis Rossmann commentary on the matter. youtu.be/qHwP6S_jf7g?feature=shared
selokichtli@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Didn’t he say that using adblockers in YouTube was basically piracy?
tabular@lemmy.world 2 months ago
There would be less talking over each other over definitions if the music industry had not convicted people that murder and stealing on boats was good way to describe unauthorized copying.
simonced@lemmy.one 2 months ago
It has been reuploaded already with a nice “re-upload” added in the thumbnail.
flustered@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Fucking hilarious.
mhague@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Reload the video multiple times. They will show a few different ads and then give up. It even works on console YT apps which have more ads.
I guess it affects impressions? I figured they would have fixed that, but this still works so whatever.
Krakaval@jlai.lu 2 months ago
I use brave or Firefox + uBlock. Never see any ad.
rbesfe@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Still available on Floatplane!
andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Linus Insurrection Tips.
LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 2 months ago
He should totally upload it to HornPUB
Kaelygon@lemmy.world 2 months ago
One more reason to subscribe to float plane
grue@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Ironically, watching this video on Osysee results in me consuming more ads that help LTT than usual, because I don’t have SponsorBlock set up for that.
funtrek@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
I have Premium. I don’t see any ads.
HarriPotero@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Reddit is curiously silent on this matter. Their SJWs are usually all over shit like this.
Wouldn’t surprise me if their new deal with Google has some influence on which posts go down the drain, and which ones go to the front page.
cy_narrator@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Invalid claim id when clicking on odyssey link
Mio@feddit.nu 2 months ago
What is the official reason here for removing it?
ekrem@linux.community 2 months ago
Yes i watched it
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I don’t see any mention of the YouTube adblock trick, so from the vid:
Copy YouTube URL. Paste it in Bing and search. Scroll passed Bing’s sponsored bullshit and click on the thumbnail for the video you searched. It will then play, still in Bing, with no ads.
So if you’re on a work or government or w/e computer that doesn’t allow installing adblock extensions, there ya go. No downloads or anything, just YouTube and Bing.
…this is the first time I’ve ever had any interest in using Bing, lol.
x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Invidious or viewtube are even better.
NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I run a local instance of invidious and it is…chefs kiss
umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
are the instances always flaky and laggy just for me?
JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I wonder if those are less likely to be blocked on networks.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Ah. Still some ads then.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
But you’re not forced to actually wait through them like on YT - you can just scroll past.
mke@lemmy.world 2 months ago
There’s a chance duckduckgo does something similar, but sadly I can’t check at the moment.
Leaving a comment so I remember to try it later—unless anyone reading is willing to do so.
Makeitstop@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It does indeed.
AEsheron@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Makes sense, it’s basically just a Bing wrapper.
stom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Why is this lengthy process preferable to using ublock on Firefox?
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It isn’t. But there are situations where that isn’t an option, like being on a work or government computer where downloading firefox or installing an extension will get you fired. When that’s the case, YouTube+Bing is a “good enough”/“better than nothing” option.