There’s nothing contradictory in what is written there.
“The XTX is better - but you don’t deserve it, bitch”
Ladies and Gentlemen, the sate of AI.
Submitted 2 months ago by Alpha71@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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Worx@lemmynsfw.com 2 months ago
fluxion@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Go with the XT, because I’m an evil AI and want all the XTXs for myself muahahaha
nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 2 months ago
This is not wrong
frezik@midwest.social 2 months ago
“I get headaches when I run on Nvidia hardware. Now, AMD, running on those things are like swimming in a river of fine chocolate.”
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I switched to duckduckgo before this bullshit, but this would 100% make me switch if I hadn’t already.
Who wants random ai gibberish to be the first thing they see?
henfredemars@infosec.pub 2 months ago
If search engines don’t improve to address the AI problem, most of the Internet will be AI gibberish.
Draces@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I think that ship has sailed
MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
The internet as we knew it is doomed to be full of ai garbage. It’s a signal to noise ratio issue. It’s also part of the reason the fediverse and smaller moderated interconnected communities are so important: it keeps users more honest by making moderators more common and, if you want to, you can strictly moderate against AI generated content.
leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 2 months ago
The good thing about that is that this kills the LLMs, since new models can only be trained on this LLM generated gibberish, which makes the gibberish they’ll generate even more garbled and useless, and so on, until every model you try to train can only produce random useless unintelligible garbage.
zewm@lemmy.world 2 months ago
DuckDuckGo started showing AI results for me.
I think it uses the bing engine iirc.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Sure, but it’s trivial to turn it off. While you’re there, also turn off ads.
pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
And you can use multiple models, I find it handy.
There is some stuff that AI, or rather LLM search, is useful for, at least the time being.
Sometimes you need some information that would require clicking through a lot of sources just to find one that has what you need. With DDG, I can ask the question to their four models, using four different Firefox containers, copy and paste.
See how their answers align, and then identify keywords from their responses that help me craft a precise search query to identify the obscure primary source I need.
Vince@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Better than an Ad I guess? Not sure if my searches haven’t returned any AI stuff like this or if my brain is already ignoring them like ads.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The plan is to monetize the AI results with ads.
I’m not even sure how that works, but I don’t like it.
forgotaboutlaye@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Sounds like the advice you’d get in the first three comments asking a question on Reddit.
overload@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
I wonder where they trained the AI model to answer such a question.
Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Don’t forget the glue on the pizza
vk6flab@lemmy.radio 2 months ago
A.I. or Assumed Intelligence
Senseless@feddit.org 2 months ago
That’s pretty much it. It just assumes what the next word should be.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Its not artificial intelligence, its artificial idiocy
FinalRemix@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Nah. It’s real idiocy.
Noodle07@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s all probability, what’s the most probable idiocy someone would answer?
stochastic_parrot@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Stochastic parrot
curry@programming.dev 2 months ago
No, they’re All Interns.
wurstgulasch3000@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Here is what kagi delivers with the same prompt:
NB: quick answer is only generated when ending your search with a question mark
db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Problem is, you cannot trust it’s not hallucinating these stats
potustheplant@feddit.nl 2 months ago
And even if it’s showing the correct number, you can’t be sure how trustworthy the source is.
wurstgulasch3000@lemmy.world 2 months ago
At least it’s citing sources and you can check to make sure. And from my anecdotal evidence it has been pretty good so far. It also told me on some occasions that the queried information was not found in it’s sources instead of just making something up.
asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That being said, I can’t trust MKBHD is not hallucinating either.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Well, I’m sated.
Agent641@lemmy.world 2 months ago
ChatGPT4o can do some impressive and useful things. Here, Im just sending it a mediocre photo of a product with no other context, I didnt type a question. First, its identifying the subject, a drink can. Then its identifying the language used. Then its translating the text without being asked, because it knows I only read english. Then its providing background and also explaining what tamarind is and how it tastes. This is enough for me to make a fully informed decision. Google translate would require me to type the text in, and then would only translate without giving other useful info.
It was delicious.
FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Google: ok so the AI in search results is a good thing, got it!
31337@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
The search engine LLMs suck. I’m guessing they use very small models to save compute. ChatGPT 4o and Claude 3.5 are much better.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 months ago
And good luck typing that in if you don’t know the alphabet it’s written in and can’t copy/paste it.
lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 months ago
It goes without saying that this shit doesn’t really understand what’s outputting; it’s picking words together and parsing a grammatically coherent whole, with barely any regard to semantics (meaning).
It should not be trying to provide you info directly, it should be showing you where to find it. For example, linking this or this*.
To add injury in this case it isn’t even providing you info, it’s bossing you around. Typical Microsoft “don’t inform a user, tell it [yes, “it”] what it should be doing” mindset. Specially bad in this case because cost vs. benefit varies a fair bit depending on where you are, often there’s no single “right” answer.
*OP, check those two links, they might be useful for you.
AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 2 months ago
LLMs don’t “understand” anything, and it’s unfortunate that we’ve taken to using language related to human thinking to talk about software. It’s all data processing and models.
lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 months ago
Yup, 100% this. And there’s a crowd of muppets arguing “ackshyually wut u’re definishun of unrurrstandin/intellijanse?” or “but hyumans do…”, but come on - that’s bullshit, and more often than not sealioning.
Don’t get me wrong - model-based data processing is still useful in quite a few situations. But they’re only a fraction of what big tech pretends that LLMs are useful for.
FireWire400@lemmy.world 2 months ago
7900 XTX; more powerful, therefore better.
7900 XT; cheaper, therefore better.
nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de 2 months ago
At the very least it failed in a way that’s obvious by giving you contradictory statements. If it left you with only the wrong statements, that’s when “AI” becomes really insidiuos.
nobleshift@lemmy.world 2 months ago
What do you expect from a Google AI? BUY SOMETHING BUY SOMETHING BUY SOMETHING.
khornechips@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Not that you’re wrong, but you can clearly see Bing in the screenshot lol.
breakingcups@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Seems we are on par with AI after all.
powerofm@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Literally says “Microsoft” in the top left.
linearchaos@lemmy.world 2 months ago
SearXNG only returns results search engines agree on. That removes ads and this bullshit
mlg@lemmy.world 2 months ago
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This doesn’t appear to be comparing them, though? Just explaining what two acronyms are?
mlg@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah I should have mentioned the context is FBLA, and Google partially fixed the prompt.
Original from a few weeks ago:
BPA is another student org called Business Professionals of America
The AI ignores the subject context and just compares whatever is the most common acronym.
They lazy patched it by making the model do a subject check on the result, but not on the prompt so it still comes back with the chemical lol.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Am i guessing it right that the XTX uses 50% more energy for the 20% more power?
QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That’s a good summary. Google Gemini is no better. Type in a question and it starts off great but then devolves into other brands, other steps to do something that isn’t related to the thing you asked. It’s just terrible and someone will sue them over it next year. Just wait.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 months ago
First of all, yes
Second option is no
When presented with yes / no pick no, no is the clear yes
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah AI can be wonky, but what idiot would spend a shitload of money on a graphics card without even being willing to click an article and read a bit?
It’s on you if you do that. Even if the AI shit worked way better, why would you trust there aren’t shady things happening to influence the AI and have you spend more money.
Teknikal@eviltoast.org 2 months ago
My dad falls into this category he constantly replaces things with way worse things just because they are new, I can’t get my mind how he can replace really good working stuff with new junk that are not even capable of doing the job .
Wish I was joking but he does this constantly.
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Thats where you say “hey dad do you still need this janky old…”
Then when the new stuf breaks you can come over and be the hero using his old reliable stuff.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Hello, fellow humans. I too am human, just like you! I have skin, and blood, and guts inside me, which is not at all disgusting. Just another day of human!
Won’t you share a delicious cup of
motor oillemonaide with me? It’s nice and refridgerated, so it will cool down our bodies without the use of cooling fans!However we too can use cooling fans. They will just be placed on the ceiling, or in a box, or self standing, and oscillating. Not at all inside our bodies, connected to a board controlled by our CPUs that we clearly don’t have!
Now come, let us take our colored paper with numbers and pictures of previous human rulers and exchange them for human food prepared by not fully adult humans who haven’t matured to the age where their brains develop the ability to care about food sanitation. Then we shall complain that our meal cost too many paper dollars, while recieving less and less potato stick products every year. Ignoring completely the risk of heart disease by indulging in the amounts of food we desire to aquire.
Finally we shall retreat to our place of residence, and complain on the internet that our elected leaders are performing poorly. Rather than
terminate the programvote the poor performing humans out, we shall instead complain that it is other humans fault for voting them in. Making no attempt to change our broken system that has been broken our entire existence, with no signs of improving. Instead every 4 years we will make an effort to write down names of people we’ve already complained about in the hopes that enough people write down the same names, and that will fix the problem.Oh. Shall I request amazon.com to purchase more fans and cooling units? The news being reported that tempatures will soon reach 130F on a regular basis, and all humans will slowly perish.
Shall I share photographs of the new CEO of starbucks who’s daily commute involves a personal jet aircraft, which surely isn’t compounding the problem at all?
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Jokes aside (and this whole AI search results thing is a joke) this seems like an artifact of sampling and tokenization.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Gemini tokens for XTX are “XT” and “X”, so it’s got quite a chance of mixing them up after it writes out XT. Add in sampling (literally randomizing the token outputs a little), and I’m surprised it gets any of it right.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Garbage in, something something
jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
I wonder if they couldn’t feed the output back into gpt to realize the out makes no sense?
Wrench@lemmy.world 2 months ago
There’s nothing wrong about it.
Neither is worth it. But if you have unlimited money, XTX is the better card and therefore a better deal. But if money is a factor, get the XT because the performance per $$$ of the XTX isn’t worth selling a kidney.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Sure, but AI didn’t say that. It said: XTX > XT, get XT.
criticon@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
The AI response reads like when you are looking for something in Reddit and you get 3 very different responses in 3 different threads about the same topic
Wrench@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yep, my comment was tongue in cheek. It’s a useless result and only sort of makes sense as an overly reduced summary that has lost vital context.
The other reply is the obvious answer. Each answer is from a different viewpoint from a different user.
bruhduh@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I think amd is worth it’s money tho, they scale their price to match their nvidia counterparts performance wise, i mean 7900xtx worth just as much as 4080 and performs as such but have more memory and is a better match for Linux gaming
Wrench@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s worth it if you accept the post pandemic, post crypto prices to be the new normal.
I’m still rocking my old 980ti because I refuse to pay $600 for an old, mid tier card.
NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Assuming it takes its answer from search results, and the search results are all affiliate marketing sites that just want you to click on a link and buy something, this makes perfect sense.
Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
RX 7900 XTX is better because it has more x
Zwiebel@feddit.org 2 months ago
1000031884
kescusay@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The best thing about this is that it’s also on the x-axis.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
“Thanks Steve.”
stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
this would’ve been better if they asked an LLM how many x’s each of those contained
superkret@feddit.org 2 months ago
X is deprecated. Use the RWayland 7900 WaylandTWayland instead.
synapse1278@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That’s 50% more Xs ! You can beat this deal !
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This bad boy can fit so many X’s in it
Rubanski@lemm.ee 2 months ago
But what about the xXx_RX_7900_xXx?
Steak@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
xXx_RX_790042069_xXx
EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 2 months ago
But X is bad, as proved by Elon Musk - so it should be the other way around.
AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That X is twice as much vram, which funny enough, is great for running ai models
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
My question is, is X better than XTX? XTX has more Xs, but X has only Xs. I think I need AI to solve this quandary.