There’s nothing contradictory in what is written there.
“The XTX is better - but you don’t deserve it, bitch”
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There’s nothing contradictory in what is written there.
“The XTX is better - but you don’t deserve it, bitch”
Go with the XT, because I’m an evil AI and want all the XTXs for myself muahahaha
This is not wrong
“I get headaches when I run on Nvidia hardware. Now, AMD, running on those things are like swimming in a river of fine chocolate.”
I switched to duckduckgo before this bullshit, but this would 100% make me switch if I hadn’t already.
Who wants random ai gibberish to be the first thing they see?
If search engines don’t improve to address the AI problem, most of the Internet will be AI gibberish.
I think that ship has sailed
The internet as we knew it is doomed to be full of ai garbage. It’s a signal to noise ratio issue. It’s also part of the reason the fediverse and smaller moderated interconnected communities are so important: it keeps users more honest by making moderators more common and, if you want to, you can strictly moderate against AI generated content.
The good thing about that is that this kills the LLMs, since new models can only be trained on this LLM generated gibberish, which makes the gibberish they’ll generate even more garbled and useless, and so on, until every model you try to train can only produce random useless unintelligible garbage.
DuckDuckGo started showing AI results for me.
I think it uses the bing engine iirc.
Sure, but it’s trivial to turn it off. While you’re there, also turn off ads.
And you can use multiple models, I find it handy.
There is some stuff that AI, or rather LLM search, is useful for, at least the time being.
Sometimes you need some information that would require clicking through a lot of sources just to find one that has what you need. With DDG, I can ask the question to their four models, using four different Firefox containers, copy and paste.
See how their answers align, and then identify keywords from their responses that help me craft a precise search query to identify the obscure primary source I need.
Better than an Ad I guess? Not sure if my searches haven’t returned any AI stuff like this or if my brain is already ignoring them like ads.
The plan is to monetize the AI results with ads.
I’m not even sure how that works, but I don’t like it.
Sounds like the advice you’d get in the first three comments asking a question on Reddit.
I wonder where they trained the AI model to answer such a question.
Don’t forget the glue on the pizza
A.I. or Assumed Intelligence
That’s pretty much it. It just assumes what the next word should be.
Its not artificial intelligence, its artificial idiocy
Nah. It’s real idiocy.
It’s all probability, what’s the most probable idiocy someone would answer?
Stochastic parrot
No, they’re All Interns.
Here is what kagi delivers with the same prompt:
NB: quick answer is only generated when ending your search with a question mark
Problem is, you cannot trust it’s not hallucinating these stats
And even if it’s showing the correct number, you can’t be sure how trustworthy the source is.
At least it’s citing sources and you can check to make sure. And from my anecdotal evidence it has been pretty good so far. It also told me on some occasions that the queried information was not found in it’s sources instead of just making something up.
That being said, I can’t trust MKBHD is not hallucinating either.
Well, I’m sated.
ChatGPT4o can do some impressive and useful things. Here, Im just sending it a mediocre photo of a product with no other context, I didnt type a question. First, its identifying the subject, a drink can. Then its identifying the language used. Then its translating the text without being asked, because it knows I only read english. Then its providing background and also explaining what tamarind is and how it tastes. This is enough for me to make a fully informed decision. Google translate would require me to type the text in, and then would only translate without giving other useful info.
It was delicious.
Google: ok so the AI in search results is a good thing, got it!
The search engine LLMs suck. I’m guessing they use very small models to save compute. ChatGPT 4o and Claude 3.5 are much better.
And good luck typing that in if you don’t know the alphabet it’s written in and can’t copy/paste it.
It goes without saying that this shit doesn’t really understand what’s outputting; it’s picking words together and parsing a grammatically coherent whole, with barely any regard to semantics (meaning).
It should not be trying to provide you info directly, it should be showing you where to find it. For example, linking this or this*.
To add injury in this case it isn’t even providing you info, it’s bossing you around. Typical Microsoft “don’t inform a user, tell it [yes, “it”] what it should be doing” mindset. Specially bad in this case because cost vs. benefit varies a fair bit depending on where you are, often there’s no single “right” answer.
*OP, check those two links, they might be useful for you.
LLMs don’t “understand” anything, and it’s unfortunate that we’ve taken to using language related to human thinking to talk about software. It’s all data processing and models.
Yup, 100% this. And there’s a crowd of muppets arguing “ackshyually wut u’re definishun of unrurrstandin/intellijanse?” or “but hyumans do…”, but come on - that’s bullshit, and more often than not sealioning.
Don’t get me wrong - model-based data processing is still useful in quite a few situations. But they’re only a fraction of what big tech pretends that LLMs are useful for.
7900 XTX; more powerful, therefore better.
7900 XT; cheaper, therefore better.
At the very least it failed in a way that’s obvious by giving you contradictory statements. If it left you with only the wrong statements, that’s when “AI” becomes really insidiuos.
What do you expect from a Google AI? BUY SOMETHING BUY SOMETHING BUY SOMETHING.
Not that you’re wrong, but you can clearly see Bing in the screenshot lol.
Seems we are on par with AI after all.
Literally says “Microsoft” in the top left.
SearXNG only returns results search engines agree on. That removes ads and this bullshit
This doesn’t appear to be comparing them, though? Just explaining what two acronyms are?
Yeah I should have mentioned the context is FBLA, and Google partially fixed the prompt.
Original from a few weeks ago:
BPA is another student org called Business Professionals of America
The AI ignores the subject context and just compares whatever is the most common acronym.
They lazy patched it by making the model do a subject check on the result, but not on the prompt so it still comes back with the chemical lol.
Am i guessing it right that the XTX uses 50% more energy for the 20% more power?
That’s a good summary. Google Gemini is no better. Type in a question and it starts off great but then devolves into other brands, other steps to do something that isn’t related to the thing you asked. It’s just terrible and someone will sue them over it next year. Just wait.
First of all, yes
Second option is no
When presented with yes / no pick no, no is the clear yes
Yeah AI can be wonky, but what idiot would spend a shitload of money on a graphics card without even being willing to click an article and read a bit?
It’s on you if you do that. Even if the AI shit worked way better, why would you trust there aren’t shady things happening to influence the AI and have you spend more money.
My dad falls into this category he constantly replaces things with way worse things just because they are new, I can’t get my mind how he can replace really good working stuff with new junk that are not even capable of doing the job .
Wish I was joking but he does this constantly.
Thats where you say “hey dad do you still need this janky old…”
Then when the new stuf breaks you can come over and be the hero using his old reliable stuff.
Hello, fellow humans. I too am human, just like you! I have skin, and blood, and guts inside me, which is not at all disgusting. Just another day of human!
Won’t you share a delicious cup of motor oil lemonaide with me? It’s nice and refridgerated, so it will cool down our bodies without the use of cooling fans!
However we too can use cooling fans. They will just be placed on the ceiling, or in a box, or self standing, and oscillating. Not at all inside our bodies, connected to a board controlled by our CPUs that we clearly don’t have!
Now come, let us take our colored paper with numbers and pictures of previous human rulers and exchange them for human food prepared by not fully adult humans who haven’t matured to the age where their brains develop the ability to care about food sanitation. Then we shall complain that our meal cost too many paper dollars, while recieving less and less potato stick products every year. Ignoring completely the risk of heart disease by indulging in the amounts of food we desire to aquire.
Finally we shall retreat to our place of residence, and complain on the internet that our elected leaders are performing poorly. Rather than terminate the program vote the poor performing humans out, we shall instead complain that it is other humans fault for voting them in. Making no attempt to change our broken system that has been broken our entire existence, with no signs of improving. Instead every 4 years we will make an effort to write down names of people we’ve already complained about in the hopes that enough people write down the same names, and that will fix the problem.
Oh. Shall I request amazon.com to purchase more fans and cooling units? The news being reported that tempatures will soon reach 130F on a regular basis, and all humans will slowly perish.
Shall I share photographs of the new CEO of starbucks who’s daily commute involves a personal jet aircraft, which surely isn’t compounding the problem at all?
Jokes aside (and this whole AI search results thing is a joke) this seems like an artifact of sampling and tokenization.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Gemini tokens for XTX are “XT” and “X”, so it’s got quite a chance of mixing them up after it writes out XT. Add in sampling (literally randomizing the token outputs a little), and I’m surprised it gets any of it right.
Garbage in, something something
I wonder if they couldn’t feed the output back into gpt to realize the out makes no sense?
There’s nothing wrong about it.
Neither is worth it. But if you have unlimited money, XTX is the better card and therefore a better deal. But if money is a factor, get the XT because the performance per $$$ of the XTX isn’t worth selling a kidney.
Sure, but AI didn’t say that. It said: XTX > XT, get XT.
The AI response reads like when you are looking for something in Reddit and you get 3 very different responses in 3 different threads about the same topic
Yep, my comment was tongue in cheek. It’s a useless result and only sort of makes sense as an overly reduced summary that has lost vital context.
The other reply is the obvious answer. Each answer is from a different viewpoint from a different user.
I think amd is worth it’s money tho, they scale their price to match their nvidia counterparts performance wise, i mean 7900xtx worth just as much as 4080 and performs as such but have more memory and is a better match for Linux gaming
It’s worth it if you accept the post pandemic, post crypto prices to be the new normal.
I’m still rocking my old 980ti because I refuse to pay $600 for an old, mid tier card.
Assuming it takes its answer from search results, and the search results are all affiliate marketing sites that just want you to click on a link and buy something, this makes perfect sense.
Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
RX 7900 XTX is better because it has more x
Zwiebel@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
1000031884
kescusay@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The best thing about this is that it’s also on the x-axis.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
“Thanks Steve.”
stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
this would’ve been better if they asked an LLM how many x’s each of those contained
superkret@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
X is deprecated. Use the RWayland 7900 WaylandTWayland instead.
synapse1278@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
That’s 50% more Xs ! You can beat this deal !
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
This bad boy can fit so many X’s in it
Rubanski@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
But what about the xXx_RX_7900_xXx?
Steak@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
xXx_RX_790042069_xXx
EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 5 weeks ago
But X is bad, as proved by Elon Musk - so it should be the other way around.
AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
That X is twice as much vram, which funny enough, is great for running ai models
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
My question is, is X better than XTX? XTX has more Xs, but X has only Xs. I think I need AI to solve this quandary.