Sudo is coming to Windows 11

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• redcalcium@lemmy.institute ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  “Let’s give our new command line app the same name as a popular linux command even though it’s not the same app and behaves differently. I’m sure our users would appreciate it when they have problem with the app and trying to search the solution later.”

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  • stoy@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    To be consistent with Powershell’s command structure, they should call it “Get-Access” or something similar…

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    • bionicjoey@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Given the horrible verbosity of PS utils, I’d expect they just abandon subtlety and call it Substitute-User-Do-Operation

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    • Deceptichum@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Can we truncate it to Get-Ass?

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  • starman@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “Because we are Microsoft, the company known for giving our products perfectly reasonable and not confusing names”

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    • mynamesnotrick@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Sentinel, Defender, Entra. I hear these daily in meetings and don’t know what the hell they are. (Not my job)

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    • Deebster@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think Google’s the worst for this. Examples such as the browser Chrome, when browser chrome has been a thing for a long time. Go, a very common verb and keyword and also now a programming language. Not too be confused with their Go Links, which was a URL shortener. And then there’s all the ones they either rebrand or retire and/or replace.

      Perhaps they want confusing names because they think other search engines can’t handle the ambiguity.

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  • Nyfure@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    afaik they also alias common linux/gnu commands like curl.. but the syntax isnt like curl at all

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    • OmnislashIsACloudApp@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I definitely spent a frustrated 45 minutes trying to figure out why curl wasn’t working when it was supposed to be supported in PowerShell.

      then I hit tab a couple of times and noticed curl.exe was an option, that works exactly the same as I had expected with original syntax.

      they do this to a lot of things though a lot of common commands end up being an alias to a powershell command with a specific option set that doesn’t always line up

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  • tabular@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I wonder which sudo Bing will default to find 🤔

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    • billiam0202@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Phil Collins, probably.

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  • Saff@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They’ve had a real problem with names recently. I wonder if the laid all the creative people off in that company. Miss me with this “new outlook” “new teams” “teams for work and school” just think of a new name for each app for the love of god…

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    • esc27@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Not a new problem. Many years ago they released a server app to download and deploy updates to a businesses computers. They called it Windows Update Service, or WUS. A bit later they changed the name to Windows Server Update Service (WSUS). The FAQ on the name change noted the old name “did not accurately reflect the value of the software”

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  • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Twitter’s Grok

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    • billiam0202@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Xitter’s Grok.

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  • wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    MS, seeing G green-light the .zip TLD: hold my beer

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• krimson@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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  • Gestrid@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sudo is the “please” of Linux.

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• Liome@pawb.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Windows is not in sudoers file. This incident will be reported.

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  • cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    To microsoft

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• wesker@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  sudon’t

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  • Glitchington@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They are tired of right clicking Command Prompt to “Run as Administrator”. They’ve been doing it for decades, they can have one tiny piece of QoL improvement.

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• answersplease77@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I bet you not even sudo could remove edge. edge is like the breathing lungs and thinking brain and balls of computer

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  • javasux@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    HTTP is stored in the balls

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  • TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “This action is forbidden. The incident has been reported.”

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    • isles@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s an unpalatable response - instead you’re sentenced to 10 hours of Browser Reeducation classes

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  • UsernameIsTooLon@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You used to be able to >winget uninstall Microsoft.Edge

    But the problem is Edge would still come back every time Windows had an update.

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    • lud@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I hope the Eu DMA update fixes that.

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  • KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There are lots of 3rd party mods like AtlasOS that can remove edge.

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• Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  And, knowing Windows, won’t let you do as much as a real sudo would anyway. There are so many f-ing things that even Admin is not allowed to do on a Windows box, it is simply annoying. “Oh no, you cannot remove Edge! This would threaten the stability of the universe!”

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  • BaardFigur@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “Oh no, you cannot remove Edge! This would threaten the stability of the universe!”

    We’ll be able to in April, due to EU regulations 🥳

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    • Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Amazing, isn’t it? Just a bit of legal pressure, and impossible things suddenly are easy to do.

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• HarriPotero@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Do you remember when Microsoft tried to patent sudo?

  Pepperidge farm remembers.

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  • psud@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sounds exactly like the common graphical implementations of sudo

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• xavier666@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It is an ergonomic and familiar solution for users who want to elevate a command without having to first open a new elevated console.

  Yeah Microsoft, how exactly is it familiar for Windows users? 😜

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• shortwavesurfer@monero.town ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Sudo rm -rf c: --no-preserve-root

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  • Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    More like sudo rm -rf C: --no-preserve-C-drive

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    • Classy@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Imagine opening up your case and the C drive just fucking vanished

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• taanegl@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Finally.

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  • sunbeam60@lemmy.one ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Although you have to admire that PowerShell at least attempts to define a common set of verbs and vocabulary.

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    • taanegl@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Fair enough. I just wish shorthand was the standard.

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  • egonallanon@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The trick to powershell is to make incredibly liberal use of tab completion to speed yourself up. Or make aliases for commands you use really often.

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    • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah, I get that it can be a pain to type long commands out the first time, but if you’re using a terminal or an editor without tab completion in 2024 then you’ve chosen to do things the hard way.

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• Toes@ani.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This has been needed since Windows XP SP2.

  Glad to see they’ve finally started doing their backlog tickets.

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• kometes@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  alias sudo=runas

  Wow, so exciting.

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• farcaller@fstab.sh ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Honestly, it’s hardly newsworthy given how sudo was a thing in windows for quite a while now. I use it pretty often, especially sudo pwsh for elevated shells.

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• n3m37h@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Embrace, extend, extinguish. Fucking microcrap

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  • Evkob@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    …what?

    I’m always aboard the Microsoft hate train, but I don’t see how them adding sudo fits within EEE. Here’s an excerpt from microsoft/sudo on Github:

    Obviously, everything about permissions and the command line experience is different between Windows and Linux. This project is not a fork of the Linux sudo project, nor is it a port of the Linux sudo project. Instead, Sudo for Windows is a Windows-specific implementation of the sudo concept.

    As the two are entirely different applications, you’ll find that certain elements of the Linux sudo experience are not present in Sudo for Windows, and vice versa.

    Despite sharing a name and features, they’re for two completely separate platforms and offer no interoperability. If MS decided to release their version of sudo for Linux, maybe we could talk about EEE. For now, all they’ve done is implement a useful tool from another platform into theirs, and that’s a (rare) positive for MS, even if this feature should have existed like 30 years ago.

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    • mondoman712@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Will this not dilute search results related to sudo? It’s minor but I think could be considered EEE.

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    • n3m37h@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Linux subsystem for windows… Making it easier to stay off Linux, adding similar elements to Linux to appeal to Linux users.

      It’s 100% per of EEE, subtle as not to make users like you freak out.
      MS won’t do anything that doesn’t help them make more money / more users

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• nix@merv.news ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Its been a thing for a while on windows 10 as well github.com/gerardog/gsudo

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• Granixo@feddit.cl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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• Curdie@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Do ssh-copy-id next please.

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  • Phrey@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s already on Windows

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    • Curdie@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Oh really?

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• ransomwarelettuce@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I been using gsudo for quite sometime, the default way to leverage privaliges in Windows is cancer, the whole shell is tbh.

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• iAvicenna@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  ah finally our imposters are in senior positions

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• BaardFigur@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Fuck yeah. I already use gsudo on my private Windows installation, but I didn’t install it on my work PC for obvious reason. Now I get to use it there as well. Fantastic

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• devilish666@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Honestly idc about sudo in windows bc i already disable the UAC totally, so… everything in my windows run as root like Windows XP era

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  • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You do you, but it’s not anywhere as rough of an experience leaving it enabled as things used to be back then. This also exponentially increases the risk factor that some malware will fuck your shit right up.

    I also wouldn’t advertise it either. Like telling facebook that you never lock your door.

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    • devilish666@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Malware issue…NOPE
      Stability issue…NOPE
      Actually i’ve been doing this since Win7 era & never got any malware/spyware/ransomware bc i know what I’m doing exactly.
      Actually the people who afraid about malware itself because people always visit some shady website, clicking shady links, & install shady software from it without knowing at all

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  • lud@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The best thing about this is that this will be available in enterprise environment which obviously can’t disable UAC. Disabling it is incredibly stupid on a personal machine, but doing it in an enterprise environment is a death sentence.

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• callmepk@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I just use Scoop’s sudo

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• Curdie@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This will be a nice improvement for me.

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• butsbutts@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  sudo!!

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