Watch how they steadily increase the price now (which they’ve already been doing)
YouTube Premium announces 100 million subscribers
Submitted 9 months ago by redcalcium@lemmy.institute to technology@lemmy.world
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/02/youtube-premium-also-joins-the-100-million-subscribers-club/
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darthsid@lemmy.world 9 months ago
ripley@lemmy.world 9 months ago
It went up like four bucks this month for me this past month. I feel like I am in a no-win situation. I want to support the authors of the videos and music I like, make the platform sustainable, and I hate ads and data harvesting. There doesn’t seem to be reasonable way to satisfy all three objectives (or even two).
lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
I’m mostly in the same boat with supporting the creators, however I don’t really like Google to be honest. I end up supporting creators outside the platform, such as via Patreon or by watching on Nebula. Most of my YT consumption is done via NewPipe, Piped and Freetube
There’s a little part of me that likes the fact that YouTube is burning a hole in Google’s finances tbh lol
TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Patreon for the ones you really like, and substituting watching my own content on Plex is how I’m weening myself off YouTube.
laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
Unfortunately, anymore, even if you pay, companies (especially googie) are STILL harvesting and selling your data… I don’t know if there’s a way to avoid it without either unplugging entirely or going full in on dark web and anonymous browsing techniques, and even then, your data will still be harvested from other people in your life
linearchaos@lemmy.world 9 months ago
If it wasn’t as freaking high as it is there would be a lot more premium users. Every other streaming service is full of professionally made movies and TV shows. YouTube is absolutely chock-full of berate crap where they’re barely paying anybody but the top 1%. It’s a grift. It should be priced with the absolute cheapest services out there.
Technofrood@feddit.uk 9 months ago
The price makes a little more sense if you factor in it also includes YouTube music, which puts it more on par with a premium Spotify subscription, with the benefit of no ads on YouTube. Which is basically how I got YouTube premium, I was already paying a monthly fee for Google Play music as it was at the time, and the upgrade to add YouTube premium was only £2 extra a month.
elgordio@kbin.social 9 months ago
While YouTube doesn’t commission, much, content it does store disproportionately more data. A streaming site has maybe 1,000,000 hours of content. That amount of content is uploaded to YouTube every day. It’s a totally different business model.
VampyreOfNazareth@lemm.ee 9 months ago
And then add an ad supported tier
AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 9 months ago
And it still doesn’t have sponsorblock. Free is more feature rich than paid. Hahaha
Kbobabob@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Does that work on your phone?
AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 9 months ago
Yes revanced has it, and some other clients too I think
EpicVision@monero.town 9 months ago
pazzedq@lemmynsfw.com 9 months ago
Yes on Revanced
asqapro@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
uYouPlus on iPhone through AltStore has SponsorBlock (plus normal ad blocking). It’s a pain compared to Android but it’s still super nice to have.
Kushia@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
Firefox with uBlock Origin. Fuck their ad-riddled client.
Gigan@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Their war on ad-blockers must be paying off
eskimofry@lemmy.world 9 months ago
We can’t really tell for sure because:
- They left out subscriber numbers in the recent earnings call (according to this article)
- Hence, we don’t know if the subscribers were from bundles vs. individual subscriptions.
- Subscribers could be from low price regions and the revenue there wouldn’t compare to NA and EU.
nailoC5@lemy.lol 9 months ago
Most people don’t even know that ad-blockers exit
paraphrand@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Just paying for it is worth it for the official apps.
ares35@kbin.social 9 months ago
and probably more than a few upsells from cross-marketing a yt 'premium' sub to those that came over from satellite for nfl games.
eskimofry@lemmy.world 9 months ago
This “Article” is short on details, And according to this article Google did not reveal data about subscriptions in the recent earnings call. I can only think this a PR piece to fluff up Google’s shares and discourage critics. Unless Google can be confident enough to explain which regions added subscribers and how much of such a subscription was part of a bundle… We can’t conclude that their anti-adblocking measures and price hikes were successful.
Example: India would fluff up numbers without adding as much revenue (bundles are common and subscription prices are low) than NA or EU
pineapplelover@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Grayjay, revanced, libretube, newpipe, youtube piped, youtube invidious, and uBlock origin 👀
EpicVision@monero.town 9 months ago
Don’t forget FreeTube
pineapplelover@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Then there are actual alternatives Peertube and Odyssey
rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 9 months ago
That’s over a billion dollars a month. If they’re still operating at a loss with all that then it’s their own incompetence at fault.
dtrain@lemmy.world 9 months ago
You know that’s not pure profit, right? Besides their hardware, development and operational costs, which are substantial, they split that fee with creators.
tb_@lemmy.world 9 months ago
That depends on how they count family plans as well as the region of those subscribers (not every region has the same price).
JPSound@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Found the corporate account. Fuck youtube. Steal that shit.
hal_5700X@lemmy.world 9 months ago
flumph@programming.dev 9 months ago
I want the creators I watch on YouTube to continue to get paid, both from YouTube and their sponsors. My contributions through premium are sliver of what they see, but if everyone stopped supporting them in that way, the total would be zero.
I back some of them on Patreon where I can, but it’s not economically feasible for me to back them all in such a way.
DJDarren@thelemmy.club 9 months ago
How many of those subscribers are like me, definitely watching YouTube from Argentine.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Are your recommendations in Spanish?
Heard localized recommendations were an issue with buying “from” India.
DJDarren@thelemmy.club 9 months ago
Nope. The only thing different is that I don’t pay for it in £.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Are your recommendations in Spanish?
Heard that was an issue with buying from India.
Kyouki@lemmy.world 9 months ago
marketing tactics to get even more to subscribe, ala “x amount of people got it so it must be good”.
Yet it feels like I got better things to spend it on, as I don’t watch much anymore due to algorithm changes making me miss the prior new music uploads and or newer channels to discover.
Every refresh contains the same or prior channels watched with the same content shuffled or worse, suggest old dated watched videos.
graymess@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Meanwhile I’m thinking “ey, sounds like they’re getting enough money, now maybe they can leave me the fuck alone.”
BearGun@ttrpg.network 9 months ago
“Enough money” is not a concept they understand unfortunately
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I do have YouTube Premium, because between the ad-free movies and TV shows and the music, the family sharing option was cheaper than Spotify and a couple of streaming services we gave up, and the few new content creators I do watch get paid more. But if they keep raising the price, I’ll look for something else.
BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world 9 months ago
For me, almost all the media I consume is YouTube so I’m fine paying up to a point but if it goes past 20 without a heap more features I’m out. I was already shocked they took away “continue watching” from normal users.
ThatsMrCharlieToYou@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Revanced all the way, baby!
SeabassDan@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I had to get grayjay because revanced stopped working on an A13, but I can’t seem to find an auto play feature
hubobes@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Yeah I got it after some other lemming told me that you can get it for cheap with a family account. I pay 4 bucks per month now which apparently also supports YouTubers more than watching ads on their videos.
willya@lemmyf.uk 9 months ago
Been doing the same for years. Absolutely worth it.
GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
Stockholm syndrome at its finest.
porkchop@lemm.ee 9 months ago
How so?
- I enjoy so many cooking shows, tech nerds, and drag queens that post videos that make me happy on YouTube.
- I watch on my tv primarily
- I’m so so so happy to support the individual creators who pour their life and so much love into their work, premium pays them more per view than ad-supported views.
- I share with some friends, and they share their logins with me. Overall, my monthly cost for video services is low.
- Usenet everything else ;)
celerate@lemmy.world 9 months ago
This is the first I’m hearing about the content creators getting paid out of the deal. YouTube needs to do a better job of letting people know this.
GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
Because YouTube is a shit company that fleeces all of the content creators they’d be nowhere without- while simultaneously giving the middle finger to everyone that uses their service.
celerate@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I looked at it. The features aren’t worth the price at all.
Jackhammer_Joe@lemmy.world 9 months ago
100 million idiots
porkchop@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Why so negative? Go outside and get some sun.
w3dd1e@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I’ll be honest. I did. With a VPN. It costs me $2.50 a month.
nucleative@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I live in a place where its just $2.50. No YouTube ads ever is great.
squid_slime@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I get this same service but for free :3
lemmyingly@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Tell me more please? What hoops did you jump through to get it at this price? I can’t imagine it’s as simple as VPNing to a country where it’s cheaper.
w3dd1e@lemm.ee 9 months ago
That is exactly what I did. If you Google it, you can find a list of the cheapest countries. Some of the cheaper options didn’t work for some reason related to how payments are processed in those places but I found one that went worked on the 3rd or 4th try.
If I remember right, I was able to use Ukraine. I think Argentina is the cheapest around $1 a month.
mihies@kbin.social 9 months ago
I might even consider it out they weren't selling me music as well and if there was a family option (in my country). And no, I wouldn't consider VPN as I won't do extra work to be able to pay google.
flumph@programming.dev 9 months ago
Yeah, as someone who gets good mileage with YouTube Premium, I wish they offered a version just for ads without music. YouTube music sucks hard, but I can’t justify paying for another music app on top of it.
autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] 9 months ago
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Hot on the heels of Google’s “One” subscription plan obtaining 100 million users, YouTube is also hitting that big milestone, with 100 million people paying for Premium and YouTube Music.
YouTube’s subscription data didn’t make it into the earnings call three days ago.
After warning users that ad blockers violate YouTube’s terms of service, the pop-ups show a big “try YouTube Premium” button.
Premium also added an exclusive “enhanced bitrate” 1080p setting, although 2K, 4K, and 8K options have always been free.
YouTube Music is free with ads and a more limited feature set, but subscribing gets you ad-free playback, background playback on phones, and access to YouTube Music streaming on Google’s various speakers.
YouTube’s blog post highlights quotes from many big music industry CEOs celebrating the service.
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sauna@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Fucking lazy sheep. Yeah, give poor Google your money and help them perpetuate the ever corrupting monopoly that is eroding and censoring our entire internet.
No ads: Android: GrayJay by Futo Windows/Xbox: Atube
Free
dtrain@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Sheep here.
We watch YouTube on several devices, Apple TV being the primary.
We watch it enough that we don’t want to be bothered with ads.
Despite its flaws, it’s an amazing service and a technical feat.
We happily pay the fee.
EpicVision@monero.town 9 months ago
uBlock Origin has 36,000,000 users according to Google and ABP has 46,000,000 users. Another 13,000,000 use AdGuard and 67,000,000 use AdBlock (the crappy one, but nonetheless, it blocks YouTube ads).
On Firefox there are also another 7,780,587 uBO users. Checkmate
mipadaitu@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I use uBlock origin on firefox. All my devices are always connected through a VPN with all the ad and tracker blocks turned on.
I am a YouTube premium subscriber.
There are dozens of us… dozens!!!
SloppyPuppy@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Me too! Im a dozen!
GhostMutt@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
Same for me!
atrielienz@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Same. There really are dozens of us.
scarabic@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Same. It’s expensive, but there’s absolutely no question that I use YouTube enough to justify it. If some can’t afford it I understand and that’s different.
Caboose12000@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I also am among the dozens!
Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Imagine being me and paying for premium and using ublock + revanced.
At the end of the day, I think I get 10 dollars in value a month, and I know hosting data isn’t free.
EpicVision@monero.town 9 months ago
I wouldn’t ever give Google a single penny. Instead, I pay for Nebula, allowing me to watch high quality videos and documentaries while supporting indie creators. And it’s just $5/month.
Krudler@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Thank you for being this way.
I think platform greed is awful, but I think consumer greed is something that largely goes unacknowledged.
Even though I’ve been ‘over’ the genre for more than a decade, I still buy Japanese shmups when they appear on Steam - at one time they could only be found on obscure JP Warez sites, forget legally here. I do it out of a sense of something owed for past joy, and never play the Steam ver.
I’m also hypocritical to a degree. I can only afford to support so much and I don’t pay for everything, just what I would have paid for anyways. Perhaps there is some self-satisfying logic built in there lol
EpicVision@monero.town 9 months ago
Source: Official data from extension stores
This table does not include Safari extensions, browser extensions installed through Linux package managers like the firefox-ublock-origin package on Arch Linux, browsers with built in adblockers like LibreWolf or Brave, modded YouTube mobile apps like Vanced/Revanced on Android, uYou for iOS, alternative frontends like Invidious or Piped, desktop clients like FreeTube, other mobile apps like Newpipe, Libretube or Yattee or other adblocking solutions.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Now deduplicate the numbers because I have it installed on 7 browser profiles.
EpicVision@monero.town 9 months ago
If we also count other (less popular) adblockers, the Microsoft Edge addon store, browsers that come with pre-installed adblockers like Librewolf and Brave, people who use the package manager on their Linux distro to install browser extensions, alternative YouTube clients like Vanced/Revanced, Newpipe and Libretube as well as alternative frontends like Invidious and FreeTube, I’m pretty sure we still come out at over 100 million.