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Submitted ⁨⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨JPDev@programming.dev⁩ to ⁨programmer_humor@programming.dev⁩

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  • 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I propose a new, more threatening kind of control flow.

    do {
  /* something */
} or else {
  /* you don't want to find out */
}
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    • gex@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Some C++ style guides suggest the following naming convention for functions that crash on any error

      OpenFileOrDie()
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      • xmunk@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        PHP has the always wonderful (and perfectly functional) syntax of

        logUserIn() or die();

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      • Kissaki@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Personally, I like to call catched exception variables up, so for a rethrow I can throw up;.

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      • OpenStars@startrek.website ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s funnier when you try to SysCallAndDie() :-P

        (that’s a real thing in perl btw - I guess that function didn’t get the memo)

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      • Vorthas@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        One of the modules in a project I’m working on is called VulkanOrDie which always makes me crack up when I see it in the compilation messages.

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      • MonkderZweite@feddit.ch ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I mean, it makes sense to call ComplainToErrorAndExit just ‘die’, no?

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    • Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      this is just a menacing try/catch!

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    • moody@lemmings.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It_would_be_a_shame_if(condition)

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    • Mesa@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The better try-catch. More intuitive if you ask me.

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    • OpenStars@startrek.website ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You just made me a offer I can’t refuse. I go now to sleep with the fishes…

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    • jadelord@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It exists, kind of. Python has this construct

      for item in iterable:
    ...
else:
     ...

      which always puzzles me, since it depends on a break statement execution. I always have to look it up when the else block is executed.

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    • rothaine@beehaw.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
      do {
  /* something */
} do hast {
  /* something */
}
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      • 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
        do {
  /* something */
} do hast {
  /* something */
} do hast mich {
  /* something */
}
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  • OpenStars@startrek.website ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Please God let this be a humorous post that somehow does not also find a way to manage to come true…

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    • jtk@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I would have bought it if they said ifnot instead, it’s the same number of characters and wouldn’t require a major parser overhaul to support.

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      • pupbiru@aussie.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        i mean, “unless” tends to be the usual term for an “if not” keyword in languages that implement such a thing

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      • OpenStars@startrek.website ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah, to be clear, I don’t like it, I don’t like it one bit:-P.

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    • mryessir@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
      (define-syntax ifn't
  (syntax-rules ()
    ((_ cond) (or cond #t))
    ((_ cond false) (ifn't cond false #t))
    ((_ cond false else) (if (not cond) false else))))

      deadstare

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      • OpenStars@startrek.website ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Gulp…

        [link]

        Also, just for fun, the prequel:

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  • bappity@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    cap () {} nocap () {}

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    • runner_g@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No cap(frfr){

      }

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  • MagicShel@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Reduce exclamation marks!? Great Scott!!! Is there a shortage of punctuation in the future!?

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    • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You could have saved two, all you had to do was use the interrobang. You’re a monster.

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    • SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      All known deposits were depleted

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    • jaybone@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      1.21GB!!!

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    • fsr1967@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Kernighan, what was I thinking?

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  • the_of_and_a_to@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    [deleted]
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    • JPDev@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      unlessn’t

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    • Goun@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m sorry, I hate the “unless” so much

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      • NotSteve_@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        At one of my first jobs, I was tasked to rewrite a bunch of legacy Perl scripts in Python and the unless lines always made me trip up. I don’t know why but it really messed with my mental flow when reading Perl code

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    • chaogomu@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Basic used "else".

      It's nice. "if", "then", and "else". I spent a year programming a shitty roulette game on an Apple 2e back in high school. I still remember the joy of using if/then/else paired with goto to make a horrible mess of spaghetti logic.

      But yeah, "else" is nice.

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      • SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Using a standalone ‘else’ would tickle my brain in the same nice way that being able to declare a variable inside an ‘if’ statement as if it were a ‘for’ loop (witch you can do in modern C++) does.

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      • Deceptichum@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Let's just scrap every language except various forms of BASIC.

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    • EnderMB@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I haven’t written any Ruby for years, but I still praise it in every conversation I have regarding programming languages. It’s basically a much simpler Python, with some design ideas that are both beautiful and deeply strange.

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      • OskarAxolotl@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Ruby was designed to evoke joy and they absolutely succeeded. Usually, programming is mostly a means to an end to me. But using Ruby just feels so amazing, it’s almost impossible to even describe to somebody who has never used it before.

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    • marcos@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The Perl version of it is even greater!

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  • ohlaph@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    aint (something) {
    somethingElse()
}
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    • Facebones@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      As a Virginian learning coding, this would make my damn day.

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      • Threeme2189@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
        #define aint(x) if (!(x))
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    • 15liam20@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Or maybe

      taint(condition) {}

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  • lung@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    ifn’t(!valid) halp?

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    • Deconceptualist@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I believe that resolves the same as

      ain’t!(!untrue)

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      • RagingHungryPanda@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        ain’t (nothin)

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  • xmunk@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Still not as good as whence

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    • fartsparkles@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Is this a reference to something because I’d love to read it if you have a time to share.

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      • xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Woah. I did a quick google and it’s not just a meme, but actually used in some major lang’s libraries.

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      • LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It is used in korn shell to see what executable responds to a command:

        superuser.com/a/351995

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    • SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Legislation (which feels similar to a programming languages sometimes) seems to have some keywords of its own. I remember seeing a lot of Whereas … and Having regard to ….

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  • rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why not just ifnot?

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    • Ookami38@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think it’s just capitalizing on a trend to add n’t to otherwise noy contractions, to make them into contractions. Contractionn’ts, if you will

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    • Ferk@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      yes... how is reducing exclamation marks a good thing but adding a ' (not to be confused with \``,‘ or ’`)

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    • KmlSlmk64@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If someone really wanted to add it, probably the best would be to use unless

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      • JoshuaEN@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I really liked having unless in Ruby; a ! can be easy to miss, while unless made it clear without needing to write out != true.

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  • xia@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “Help’s with readability”? You know what else helps? Not using contractions and introducing an unbalanced single quote.

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    • bdonvr@thelemmy.club ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If they’d’nt’ve done that, it’d’ve been better. Agreed.

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      • Cwilliams@beehaw.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        they’d’nt’ve

        Aside: rip Tom Scott

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      • fsr1967@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        TIHI

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    • frezik@midwest.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Runs havoc on parsing, too. It’s bad for both humans and robots. I say we ship it.

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    • survivalmachine@beehaw.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This feels racist against Appalachia. We naturally speak with contractions and are commonly referred to as “unbalanced”.

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  • janabuggs@beehaw.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m struggling to understand if this is true or ifn’t true

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  • csm10495@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Imagine the regex needed to highlight code with that extra single quote.

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  • olafurp@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’d take a not or “if not” operator tbh.

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    • Lmaydev@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It has a not keyword t’s used for pattern matching.

      if (x is not null)
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      • olafurp@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It also has a !=.

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      • Patches@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Stuff can be two things

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  • taanegl@beehaw.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m just hoping this paves the way to code with Southern dialect

    iffun is == true
iffun ain't == false
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  • jtk@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    ifn't (myNum don't= 3 && myStr ain'tnull)
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  • Thcdenton@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Image

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  • muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Its not microsoft java its now microsoft javascript

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  • PanArab@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This can’t be for real. I’ll stick with C11 than you.

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  • AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    reminds me of #ifndef

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  • fl42v@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That has to be illegal. I mean, it’s basically suicide incitement (or whatever is the phrase for it)

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  • vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What’s wrong with “else”

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  • lurch@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    i assume “ifnot” wasn’t edgy enough and makes inferior noises on custom mechanical keyboards? /s

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  • lordmauve@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Python already has this.

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  • tiredofsametab@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    die unless $keyword == "unless";

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  • 420stalin69@hexbear.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    array.whomst(element => element === needle)

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  • luciole@beehaw.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I shan’t!

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  • Hexbear2@hexbear.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is the biggest comp sci innovation in !decades

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  • max@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    ;-;

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  • Serpent7776@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I can actually define this in TCL:

    % proc ifn't {cond cmds} {if {!$cond} {uplevel $cmds}}
% ifn't false {puts 12}
12
% ifn't true {puts 12}
%
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