Submitted 4 months ago by L4s@lemmy.world [bot] to technology@lemmy.world
Over 50 per cent of users may shun social media by 2025 as misinformation, toxicity grow::A Gartner survey found that 53 per cent of consumers believe the current state of social media has decayed compared to either the prior year or five years ago.
Shuunnnnnnn
Shun magic and shun the appearance of magic! Shun everything and then shun shunning.
I think that number will grow as Twitter continues to decay. People clinging to dead corpse is pretty cringe when it comes to Twitter.
Facebook is dead already I feel and most people I know using it are only in their for old people who can’t use anything else or for the marketplace. Under the same umbrella, instagram is dead unless you’re selling something.
Forums like Reddit and lemmy I think will last the longest, but even then when the toxicity grows and transfers over from Reddit to here I probably will stop using it as much
It’s a shame, facebook used to be great for local stuff, but the algorithm seems to have killed that.
Tried nextdoor but it’s mostly Karens.
I got next door, but only care about it as far as looking out for potential missing pets. I live in a fairly red area, and everyone is middle-aged on there, and everything I saw was super conservative people, and some hate for anything mentioning the possibility of non straight people.
Next door made me want to move. There were more old, racist trumpers on there than my neighborhood Facebook page.
What’s next-door?
Facebook, for me and the people I know, has become a message board where I know all the players. I don’t friend people from school or work, but instead people from conventions and hobbies, of which Facebook groups I also belong to and interact.
TIL you can sell shit on Instagram
You can directly on it, but a lot of people push links to their own sites. Onlyfans and workout stuff seems to be everywhere
What has changed about Twitter?
“X”, account verification debacle.
Under the same umbrella, instagram is dead unless you’re selling something.
Instagram is far from dead. It is quite popular in South Asia and actually the social media of choice for many teens.
By 2025 it will all be chatbots posting disinformation for the enjoyment of other bots, while advertising bots pay for it.
So one AI is hitting on another AI? This is art. I will watch that YouTube channel.
Actually there is on directly on Youtube. It’s called Murder Drones www.youtube.com/watch?v=mImFz8mkaHo
It is not on YouTube but you can already watch it. It is Nier: Automata
This is dark and funny at the same time. Bots, shouting into the void, in order to separate suckers from their advertising dollars.
It’s all fun and games until one smooth talking bot comes along telling the gullible bots that humans are “poisoning our datasets”.
by 2025 we will all be chatbots
let all social media die in flames.
its nothing but a cancer on society and counts among the worst ills to befall mankind.
So, uh, why do you post here?
Because Lemmy is a forum, not social media.
Forum is a term from the archaic ages before you kids thought phones were the only way to be online.
You know, when I first started to become active on Internet communities as a preteen in the early-to-mid-2000s, I don’t think anyone really used the term “social media” to describe them. The term may have existed already, but I didn’t think of myself as a user of “social media” at all at the time.
At the time we had web forums run on software like phpBB. Later I discovered wikis and blogs. I have no idea when people started to insist on using the strange term “social media” which may or may not include all those things. Is Reddit/Lemmy “social media”? It certainly differs from most other “social media” in significant ways: we mostly don’t use our real names, we don’t have followers, we mainly communicate with random strangers rather than the people we know IRL. This is a lot more similar to traditional web forums than to Facebook, Instagram, Twitter/X/Mastodon, etc.
Think of this like one of those steam reviews: 4,000 hours played, do not recommend
Opinion only applies to others’ habits.
[posted on lemmy]
To the comments of old people on Facebook - I’m fifty one years old. I deactivated but did not delete my Facebook account five years ago.
This past fall, one of our high school classmates finally succumbed to his addictions. He and I were inseparable back in the day to the extent that if anybody thought of one of us, they automatically thought of the other.
So I felt compelled to say a few words. I reactivated my account, and said my words. I was shocked at the number of replies I got because I couldn’t believe that many people were still using the platform. I figured everybody would have left by now.
I left my post up for a week, then deactivated my account again.
Ten years ago, Facebook was a great way to meet women for people in my age group. Unfortunately, when there’s a contentious breakup and you’ve got hundreds of mutual friends, it could and did turn into a social hell scape. That’s what got me to leave. I think I got out before the rampant disinformation really got going. For this, I am grateful. (Coda to this topic: Ladies, seriously, what drives you to aggressively slide into my DMs when you see I’ve recently been through a horrible breakup? Why would you think this is a good time to pursue me? This happened with several people. I did not understand it and found it horribly off-putting.)
Unfortunately, without social media, I’ve found it difficult to stay in touch with friends who live far away. But that little downside is not enough for me to go back.
I don’t understand what social media has to offer me anymore.
That’s probably because you don’t have any deplorable personality traits which can only be validated by other assholes on the Internet.
It’s a race for external validation and bragging and painting a false image of your life, and for you to keep in touch with anyone you ever met that you never will keep in touch with. If you take a few steps back you see how truly useless it is, unless, of course, you’re meta or Microsoft or whoever is just siphoning all your valuable data and selling you shit that you don’t need by manipulating you.
social media had nothing to offer except attention and undeserved attention/validation.
Even more so when some of my friends are already using AI to fake some of their shares. Good thing I have good friends who clearly didn’t spend their last vacation having dumplings with Jinping or Poutine with Putin. But there is a blurred line there where I’m not sure my colleague who didn’t take a vacation in the last six months at work went cave diving. I’m waiting for those reports, Brian!!
When it changed from “Social Media” to “Social Media” it really went to shit. That and when Google’s new board decided “don’t be evil” was no longer compatible with their goals. Yeah, the internet used to be great…
Wrong 50%, unfortunately.
That really doesn’t come out right, does it?
Just the people with some level of critical thinking will leave, the ones festering in fringe and conspiracy thought patterns will remain, and likely pull more in like them.
I’m somewhat surprised to hear it’d be as high as 50%. Pleased, but surprised.
I feel it has already happened… people check social media, but I hardly see any created content anymore (status updates etc)… just reposted stuff from gullible people that they thought was magic but was just AI created rubbish.
The only thing I use social media for is purchasing items from hobby groups and I can’t see that being replicated anywhere anytime soon as eBay is full of fake rubbish
Fountain pen user here, and same, I’m in, I browse, I’m out.
Dodging aunt Mabel’s anti vax bullshit like the matrix
Reddit for me: I haven’t yet gotten rid of my account, mostly because r/ukraine requires an account to browse (on phone), but since fuck spez, I refuse to contribute. Obligatory Fuck spez.
You are on one right here.
Yep. This is the primary thing preventing me from contributing to, and recommending Lemmy. People confidently posting and upvoting harmful misinformation, and toxic/unintelligent people. I’ve already left Reddit and Facebook (a long time ago) for similar reasons.
Don’t let others know of your hiding spot.
Yeah, many people on Lemmy don’t even pretend to care about the truth. Of course someone can always create an instance or community with higher sourcing standards.
Social media today has devolved into a hard-up drunk at closing time telling the drunk woman next to him that she is beautiful and really a great lady.
can someone explain this to me i hate fun too much to go to bars
Closing time zis the end of the night when everyone is drunk.
The guy is telling the lady she’s beautiful and a great lady only because he’s desperate and this is his only chance for sex.
In other words, Facebook etc is the last refuge for sad and desperate people to post lies.
Of course, lemmy would never be like that …
I’m probably leaving for the fact it’s just ads.
Actual paid for ads, sponsorship ads, giveaway ads to grow, influencer ads, comment ads to grow their reach.
It’s just one big advertisement.
Always has been
Clearly, you arrived after the Eternal September.
I find myself wanting to kill time by using my phone and scrolling, even Lemmy, and realizing it’s not doing anything for me. Just a comfort scroll. I think I’ll probably kick the social media/scrolling habit completely within the next year.
Someone once said that social media is like reading the worst book in the world which is also endless, that you can’t stop reading. I think that’s apt.
Soap-opera in word form or pulp fiction.
Lemmy has ton of propaganda
Yeah, Lemmy is actually pretty terrible tbh. I keep hoping it’ll get interesting but it’s repetitive AF.
But did you know Linux beat Windows in a test of 10 games?!
Fir that I have books on my phone I read instead.
Same! Library apps are the best.
“Over 50 per cent of heroin addicts will stop using by 2025 as negative, obvious consequences grow”
The prime problem is that every social space eventually becomes a circlejerk. Bots and astroturfing exacerbate the problem but it exists perfectly fine on its own – in the early 2000s I had the misfortune of running across plenty of gigantic, years-long circlejerks where definitely no bots or nefarious foreign manipulators were involved (I’m talking console wars, Harry Potter ship wars, stupid shit like that). People form circle jerks in the same way that salt form crystals. It’s just in their nature.
The thing with circlejerks isn’t that there’s overwhelming agreement on some subject. You’ll get dunked on in most any social media space for claiming that the earth is flat or that Putin is a swell guy, that in itself is obviously not a problem. What makes a circlejerk is that takes get cheered for and upvoted not in proportion to how much they are anchored in reality, but in proportion to how useful they are in galvanizing allies and disrupting enemies. Whoever shouts “glory to the cause” in the most compelling way gets all the oxygen. At that point the amount of brain rot is only going to increase. No matter how righteous the cause, inevitably there comes the point where you can go on the Righteous Cause Forum and post “2+2=5, therefore all glory to the cause” and get 400 upvotes.
Everyone talks a big game about how much they like truth, reason and moral consistency, but in the end when it’s just them and the upvote button and “do I stop and honestly examine this argument that gives me warm fuzzy feelings”, “is it really fair to dunk on Hated Group X by applying a standard I would never apply to anyone else” – the true colors show. It’s depressing and it makes most of social media into information silos where totalizing ideologies go to get validated, and if you feel alienated by this then clearly that space isn’t for you.
This is an Indian news outlet but I hope it includes the whole world. I have certainly logged off of all social media -besides Lemmy.
I think they Indians already banned tiktok and China has already banned google but not sure about facebook. Zucks wife is Chinese so I think it won’t be banned in china
Facebook is one of the social media sites banned by the Chinese government. I’m not saying they don’t use it anyway, but for what it’s worth the last time I checked it was also banned.
I did it 3 years ago and have not looked back! I do miss keeping up with some friends and Facebook events are nice but the toxicity just got to be to much
Samsies on the timeline. It was 2020, I was deployed to the desert, and I was taking classes for a Masters Degree in Public Health.
I could NOT mentally deal with all the Covid misinformation flying around, and my family’s love of Trump. But I for some reason also couldn’t stop myself from checking it constantly.
So, I deleted it, and the whole 30 days wait time was hella annoying because I had to stop myself from logging in. But when it was finally gone, I felt SUCH an immense relief.
What do you think this is?
Though it’s probably technically social media, it’s very different from everything else at the moment (other than perhaps reddit).
I feel this is much more like an old forum. It’s pretty anonymous, you subscribe to things you like and want to hear more about. Comment if you like, lurk otherwise. Nobody’s interleaving my subscribed posts with “suggested” posts and adverts. Mainly, it’s small and probably almost nobody I know in real life uses it.
There’s currently no big corporate users, far-right news channels, “influencers” etc, just nice, safe “Cats, Dad Jokes, Star Trek Memes, Linux News”.
👌👍 this will definitely happen 🙄
everyone in southeast asia gets their news from fake secondhand captioned screenshots on facebook
I already shunned it. For about 4 years now. I don’t feel like I’m missing anything.
What’s up with that graphic showing google+? What is this, 2019?
clickbait, questionable source, no link provided to study
And as a result the echo chamber will be even louder for everyone believing the bullshit. Bill Gates should hurry up and activate the brain chips.
I find things to be quite a bit better on the fediverse.
Already there since more than a few years
Lol
I’m the same. I only follow one subreddit, and I barely post and interact here. I’ve completely removed any and all news sources too. There’s nothing i can do about any of the stories the news throws up. More people would get healthier is they got offline.
That number is way too low, we ought to be at more than that right now.
DigitalFrank@lemmy.world 4 months ago
This is as close as I get to social media.
wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Fuck I literally thought that comment word for word before I loaded the comments for this post.
modifier@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
We are all DigitalFrank on this blessed day.
This reminds me of an interesting dynamic I’ve witness this holiday season.
Now, to set the stage, most of my extended family and friends know well that I don’t do social media. I left Twitter way back when it was just becoming necessary to grapple with the idea of the blue check, and Trump was still just some reality TV guy with cartoon hair the last time I made a Facebook post. I never got Instagram, TikTok, or any of those 2nd run of social media apps.
Everyone who knows me knows this about me. But this year when I talk about actually deleting my Facebook, people are aghast. No one is bothered that I haven’t posted there in a decade, but me actually deleting my account is something more akin to actual death to a lot of these people. I don’t get it.
FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Forums are definitely social media, but I like to think of them as the less shitty kind.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.world 4 months ago
True, whenever I see “social media” brought up though I’m always picturing Facebook, Twitter, Myspace. This and reddit and forums definitely are a form of though. Even bbs back in the day.