The landfill is a rude thing to call linux
Researchers warn that Windows 11 restrictions could send 240 million computers to landfills
Submitted 10 months ago by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.techspot.com/news/101313-researchers-warn-windows-11-restrictions-could-send-240.html
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TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 10 months ago
oo1@kbin.social 10 months ago
new fork of legacyOS into LandfillOS.
based on "De Bin"
The only major change needs to be you save stuff by putting it into the wastebasket.clegko@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Not wrong calling the rabid fan base that though…
GigglyBobble@kbin.social 10 months ago
Ex-smokers are the most militant non-smokers. Why would it be different for ex Windows users/victims?
_dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz 10 months ago
That’s what I’m talking about. I just picked up a dell optiplex micro for about $100 on ebay.
Can’t wait to see what the corps dump onto the market post-win11 apocalypse!
WolfhoundRO@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Time to make cheap Linux servers out of Windows 10 unknowledgeable seller’s hardware
nucleative@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Man, we should make computers upgradable or something.
BugFinder@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Wouldn’t someone think of the poor shareholders
Quadhammer@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Buy stake in parts, share man. ^^^Ya ^^^dumb ^^^mf
FunderPants@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Send the 7th Gen and better ones to me for plex servers.
seaQueue@lemmy.world 10 months ago
J5005 is a transcoding hero, just point it at a NAS and away you go.
FunderPants@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Why am I just learning about this $80 thin system right now?
Finadil@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Why not a N100 though? Faster, lower TDP, and it’s built in graphics support hardware AV1 decoding (J5005 doesn’t).
lemba@discuss.tchncs.de 10 months ago
My ASRock J4125b performes quite well too… 😎😜
olafurp@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Installing Linux will save them. 240M computers.
extremelyfasttortoise@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Yeah good luck explaining how to install, use and maintain Linux to people who can barely do email.
olafurp@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’m not gonna tell them to install Arch from scratch. I’d wipe-install Pop for 10$ because it’s literally just clicking “next” a couple of time while watching TV.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 10 months ago
I’ll figure it out before dropping 500+ bucks on a new PC.
SereneHurricane@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Oh man. What a headache. I’m a seasoned Linux user but I couldn’t get my Nvidia GPU working on my Linux machine.
I had to switch back to Windows to be productive
ahriboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
Learning how to use open source alternatives to proprietary software on Windows is the starting point before transition to Linux.
Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
I used to have a positive attitude to Linux and even used Tails but you Linux bros are so annoying I really dislike the OS
olafurp@lemmy.world 10 months ago
That’s a very weird sentence. I don’t like X because X enthusiast are so annoying.
It’s like saying “I used to have a positive attitude to pasta and even cooked rigatoni but you Italians are so annoying I really dislike the pasta.”
ahriboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
Before that, learning how to use open source alternatives to proprietary software on Windows is the starting point before transition to Linux.
ArugulaZ@kbin.social 10 months ago
You know who throws away computers? WASTEFUL people. There's always a use for older, "obsolete" technology. Today's tablet could become tomorrow's clock or picture frame. Today's computer could become tomorrow's server or game system or video player. You just have to have a little creativity and some knowledge of tech.
BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com 10 months ago
I used to think the same way as you before realize someone garbage it’s someone else treasure, so now I sell anything too old for my uses to add some extra money and get new stuff, usually don’t throw away anything, for example I like to disguise old laptops and CPUs to sell the working old parts to people who repair industrial old equipment, plenty of people willing to pay good money for some pieces of old shitty hardware.
Dremor@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Unfortunately it isn’t always as easy as that. Depending on what broke on the old computer, finding the right replacement part may be a nightmare. You can often find old CPUs on eBay for dirt cheap, but the catch is that there are close to no motherboards available, and the ones that are are way too expensive to be interesting. Moreover, it isn’t always interesting to run old hardware for something that is on 24/7. My R5900X NAS sips 75W… At idle. 130W at full power. Depending on your electricity price, it could be more interesting to buy newer, more efficient hardware, than using older ones.
kayazere@feddit.nl 10 months ago
I don’t think it’s fair to blame individual consumers. The whole consumer electrics industry is predicated on planned obsolescence and getting the consumer to buy the latest devices. In reality computers and smartphones have stagnated in terms of functionally for every day people and frequent upgrades aren’t necessary.
Here Microsoft has colluded with hardware manufactures so Windows 11 will obsolete perfectly usable computers. What choice does the consumer have to fight back? Regulation is needed to force consumer electronics to be sustainable and long lasting.
Dablin@kbin.social 10 months ago
At the end of the day, consumers enable this behaviour by majoratively buying into their bullshit. If people just stopped supporting the bearers of bad practices, companies like Microsoft would change tack in a nano second to remain commercially viable.
DessertStorms@kbin.social 10 months ago
To add to the valid points others already made - some people simply don't have the inclination or know how, or even just the physical space to store all these old machines. Yet those machines going to landfill are still almost certainly the responsibility of those who not only made them barely last a couple of years, but who invest billions if not trillions on developing a newer version no one wants, and selling it (or forcing it) on people despite no one really needing it..
Kbobabob@lemmy.world 10 months ago
TLDR; > Microsoft has already announced it will offer extended security updates for Windows 10 to 2028.
Vqhm@lemmy.world 10 months ago
ESU is a paid service for enterprise. They didn’t even offer ESU for windows 7 home.
Windows 7 pro ESU per device cost $50 for 1 year, $100 for the next year, $200 for the final year.
Windows 7 enterprise was per device 1 year $25, second year $50, and 3rd year $100.
Micros$oft is not going to give win10 ESU away for free and they probably won’t supported home edition.
You can however bypass the win11 hardware checks to upgrade unsupported devices.
samokosik@lemmynsfw.com 10 months ago
LTSC IoT Enterprise 2021 will last till 2031
Gnugit@aussie.zone 10 months ago
All those computers would run amazing with Linux.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Sure, or just windows 10 even. My custom build still smokes most mid and entry level off the shelf pcs but is ineligible for win11 BS requirements. As a result, my start button is still way over on the left side! What in the hell is the alure of 11 that people feel the need to toss their system? I don’t see it.
oo1@kbin.social 10 months ago
I think the "researchers" may not actually have gathered any data on what actually happens in these types of scenarios. beyond people just keeping on with old os which a lot will unless MS intentionally sends out a brick-update.
lots of countires/municipalities have WEE programmes to try to prevent electronics from getting to landfil - especially until things like batteries and other toxic or dangerous chemicals can be removed.Or the headline is pure clickbait garbage - it's bad enough that i'm not going to bother clicking and read any more filth.
MrSilkworm@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Researchers warn that Windows 11 restrictions could send 240 million computers to landfills
Researchers warn Microsoft that Windows 11 restrictions could send 240 million computers to run Linux. FTFY
eclectic_electron@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
You know that’s not actually going to happen though. Maybe one in a hundred will get intercepted and saved at best.
MrSilkworm@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I know that unfortunately it’s not going to happen.
I also know that there are numerous NGOS and less fortunate people who could really take advantage of using a pc and use it for a good cause or just enjoy it.
I also realise that there is a great number of students, even in the developed world, who could use a laptop for school and fun as well by running Linux.
instead of throwing the hardware away it could be repurposed.
Also i could use a couple of new old pcs to build a NAS for local cloud and jellyfish as well as a Batocera based emulation console for my living room.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 10 months ago
And from a consumer standpoint, practically no one outside of our nerdsphere is going to switch to Linux out of spite. It’s much more likely that anyone with a sour attitude on Microsoft because of this will replace their computer with a Mac instead.
spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Send Windows 11 and their stupid trusted computing initiative to the landfill instead.
MaximilianKohler@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It was said in the previous thread that the TPM and Microsoft account requirements can be overridden with Rufus, so anyone can update to Win 11.
flumph@programming.dev 10 months ago
Sure, but Windows 11 is a pain in the ass. My Internet was lagging the other day so my start menu wouldn’t find a locally installed program because it couldn’t search the Internet too.
Tangent5280@lemmy.world 10 months ago
barf
super_user_do@feddit.it 10 months ago
Finally cheaper hardware in the used market
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 10 months ago
Windows 11, finally bringing the year of Linux on the desktop.
Jeknilah@monero.town 10 months ago
How dangerous can it be to run an old OS anyways? Been doing it for years. Might actually be a good thing now that the forced updates are gone.
Cannacheques@slrpnk.net 10 months ago
Hmmm… I guess it’ll be a new thing, you know, new problems for old tech… Maybe some of the guys from ReactOS will find some old canonical guys to work with and build a new alternative to windows 7 for all the old computers out there. As for how they’ll make money it’ll probably be great for keeping all the old OEM’s and engineering software companies by keeping their old product lines somewhat relevant
starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Sometimes very dangerous, as an example a company may pay for security updates for windows XP, but you won’t get these updates. Say someone takes a look at what changed, finds a buffer overflow or other easily exploited bug, embeds that in a program, and pays to have it bundled with some freeware. One of these exploits could infect you just from visiting a webpage.
Security updates are annoying but they’re the one kind of update Microsoft is actually justified in pushing
Tangent5280@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’d like to know too.
BoastfulDaedra@lemmynsfw.com 10 months ago
Know what? Just send them to me.
Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 10 months ago
I’ll take them for free
Ultragramps@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
I am prepared to pick them up and show some leg, as a bonus.
gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
I wonder what said researchers though about windows xp or 7 reaching EOL…deeer
FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Microsoft: Okay (Forces everyone on W11 anyway)
dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 10 months ago
Time to start a nonprofit that cleans up old machines and installs Linux on them for deserving poor folks.
Dremor@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Already done in France by Emmaüs, they even have their own Ubuntu based distro.
SonnyVabitch@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Be the change etc…