@yesman oh good, extend working hours into your sleep. Truly this is the torment nexus timeline.
Lucid dream startup says engineers can write code in their sleep. Work may never be the same
Submitted 11 months ago by yesman@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org 11 months ago
ale@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Our next innovation will allow you to work 48 hours per day!
Introversion@kbin.social 11 months ago
“Why not just abolish “days”, and just work an endless stream of hours?” —Elon Musk, probably
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 11 months ago
just a clickbaity headline. Obviously any time spent doing work will count as work hours, and employers don’t need futuristic tech to push for more of those. So nothing is changing in that regard.
kent_eh@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
You put a lot more trust in our corporate lords and masters than I do.
million@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Hypnospace Outlaw has a similar premise.
TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 11 months ago
You ever have a crazy intense epic dream and come up with this awesome new idea that you think will change the world, and after a minute or two of being awake and coming to your senses, you realize how utterly idiotic you sound? There's going to be a lot of that.
digdug@kbin.social 11 months ago
When I was twelve, I woke up convinced that the color yellow was called yellow, because humans had figured out that word was intrinsically linked to that color.
I was devastated my "epiphany" stopped making sense after I fully woke up.
million@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Not too far off from en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia
lupec@lemm.ee 11 months ago
To be fair, that’s a bloody rad dream! Love the concept lol
NoRodent@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Have you ever had a dream that you, you had, your, you could, you’ll do, you wants, you could do so, you’ll do, you could, you want, you want him to do you so much you could do anything?
livus@kbin.social 11 months ago
Probably. I have been able to lucid dream since I was a kid, if we're talking about knowing you are dreaming and controlling aspects of the dream.
It's still just your own brain, and if you're controlling it you're actually being less outside-the-box creative than in the dreams where you're not.
If you're so in control you're forcing it to do work tasks then what's going to be generated will probably be lower quality than waking tasks, not higher.
Boozilla@lemmy.world 11 months ago
What do you mean using pizzas for steering wheels is a bad idea!? I’m gonna make billions!
Senex@reddthat.com 11 months ago
I wrote a hit song with the Rolling Stones and was able to sing the whole thing when I woke up. It was gone by lunch time.
Jaded@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
This would actually be insane for music creation. The few times I had dreams where I was playing an instrument, it was pure fire
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
That happens with whip its too
homoludens@feddit.de 11 months ago
And no tooling will certainly improve the coding abilities. Especially since I remember all the code, including the changes others made in the time since I last looked at it.
agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 11 months ago
AI hallucinations weren’t enough, we need real natural bed-to-table hallucinations
rynzcycle@kbin.social 11 months ago
I sometimes lucid dream, something tips me off that it's not real, and then I can take some control. Mostly I like flying, but sometimes I go full crimefighting superhero.
Realizing you are in a dream world and deciding to work, is like winning a billion dollars and deciding to spend it all on a nice car somehow. What a boring waste.
cyd@lemmy.world 11 months ago
If you think LLMs hallucinate too much, wait till you check out code literally written during hallucinations.
JGrffn@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I posted this in another comment, but during uni I did in fact write code in lucid dreams. A friend can vouch for a specific time when I woke up from sleep during an all nighter, to fix a very specific bug (which I just remembered, we didn’t even know it existed), then went back to sleep. On another occasion, I designed a recursive path-finding algorithm to replace djikstra’s algorithm, all in my sleep.
It definitely can be done (though I doubt it could be done consistently and without actually imagining shit up), but it really shouldn’t be done, I really doubt I was really resting while doing that.
ATDA@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I was sitting here thinking how useful a loop to count bananas before running out of time and losing my shoes and or pants before realizing I’m in a large college auditorium and everyone is laughing at me would be!
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
till
Cash-drawer?
averyfalken@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Till is also used for short hand of until
Introversion@kbin.social 11 months ago
Software engineer says: “Fuck off and let me have a life.”
kent_eh@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Yeah, seriously.
This just sounds like a way to squeeze more work out of a person.
Work/life balance? What’s that…
Ithi@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Well if i could work well sleeping and then live my life while awake that’d be pretty sweet.
Doubt that’s what a lot of company owners would want but that is maybe the only plus side of this.
dukk@programming.dev 11 months ago
If I’m going to be working in my dreams, I better get paid for it.
retrieval4558@mander.xyz 11 months ago
This is stupid for a wide variety of reasons, but one of the more interesting ones is that text is notoriously inconsistent in dreams.
A very common “reality check” to see if you’re dreaming is to look at a clock or text, look away, and look back. The time/text will nearly always change.
So explain to me how they expect COMPUTER CODE to work?
otp@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Well, I guess they’ll have to patch that bug first.
banneryear1868@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I became obsessed with lucid dreaming after seeing the Waking Life movie, about when I was going in to high school, and yeah that’s one of the things I used to induce them. Kept a dream journal and had a digital watch that I would always look at, light switches etc. I did have lucid dreams but never got really good at it and eventually just neglected the practice… about when I started having real life sex LOL
retrieval4558@mander.xyz 11 months ago
Ha funny how that works.
I never got into dream journaling but frequent reality checks and practicing meditation was pretty effective for me. 100% of the time when I wake up from a lucid dream I get bad sleep paralysis where I feel like I’m suffocating, so I kinda fell out of the habit.
BluesF@feddit.uk 11 months ago
If this is the same startup I read about a while ago… Well the technology doesn’t actually exist. There’s a vague suggestion that maybe lucid dreams could be induced through techniques that are not properly understood yet, and that’s about it.
JGrffn@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Well FWIW there are somewhat reproducible techniques, I’ve used them, but I couldn’t tell you how I’ve used them if my life depended on it. I actually got tired of lucid dreaming and started avoiding certain positions in bed, and started shifting around if I felt myself getting close to jumping into a lucid dream during hypnagogia.
I also worked on university assignments during lucid dreams, solved countless bugs in my code while asleep, a friend can even attest to it since one time I instantly woke up to solve a specific bug and then went back to sleep, with him right next to me (all nighters woo hoo).
It can be done. It really shouldn’t be done. The reason why I grew tired of lucid dreaming is because I didn’t feel like I was actually resting at all. That disconnect and peace that falling asleep gives you, it’s not there for me while lucid dreaming (at least not if I jumped in through hypnagogia).
AlexisFR@jlai.lu 11 months ago
Yeah, unfortunately my weak brain instantly wakes up as soon as I realize I’m in a dream, the rare times it happens
mannycalavera@feddit.uk 11 months ago
There’s a vague suggestion that maybe lucid dreams could be induced through techniques that are not properly understood yet, and that’s about it.
Where can I invest?
BluesF@feddit.uk 11 months ago
DM me hun x
meekah@lemmy.world 11 months ago
the other guy had it almost right, you’re looking for DMT
ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 11 months ago
With enough venture capital, anything is possible! Cheques in my name, please.
beizhia@lemmy.world 11 months ago
This concept actually makes me want to have AI take my job
CarlsIII@kbin.social 11 months ago
I already work in my dreams. I’m always having dreams about going back to jobs from my past. God owes me money or something.
SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You’re a sick person
nicetriangle@kbin.social 11 months ago
Doubt
guitarsarereal@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
The tradeoff obviously will be that since you’re not actually getting rest, and all multicellular life sleeps, it’s going to fuck up a lot of engineers in ways we won’t find out about for like 5-10 years until they start going crazy/dying/whatever. But hey, people are infinitely replaceable commodities you can just burn through like trees, right?
Zeth0s@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Don’t worry, the whole thing is pure BS
kent_eh@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
So are a lot of worker antagonistic business trends.
Doesn’t stop some CEO from trying to implement it.
NBJack@reddthat.com 11 months ago
Just think: People having to get help because the job they quit three years ago keeps showing up in their dreams. What’s worse is that they keep doing it, in control but unaware of the fact that they aren’t getting paid, threatened by their former boss with being fired if the quota wasn’t met.
Staying awake yet unemployed becomes one of their only escapes. They turn to stimulants to stay away from ‘work’ just a bit longer, just a little more peace.
But they then ‘crash’, falling asleep for almost a day, and starting a shift that feels like an eternity, Inception style.
dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I don’t know the answer to this, but I thought lucid dreaming still counted as getting rest as far as your brain was concerned. I lucid dream about once a month, and I never felt tired after it or like I was missing sleep.
livus@kbin.social 11 months ago
@dogslayeggs no, the brain needs to cycle through four phases. REM only takes up a portion of your sleep. Even if it felt like you were dreaming all night, you likely weren't.
Meltrax@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Lucid dreaming is such a cool concept. The ability to mentally experience things in a truly boundless environment, untethered by laws of physics or standards of reality.
Why the fuck would you want to waste that experience on work?
GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 11 months ago
Won’t anyone please think of the shareholders?!
agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 11 months ago
If im dreaming and thinking of shareholders . . . my lawyer has advised me to not finish this train of thought.
akrot@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I feel also the concept of “work” is viewed from employer/employee perspective, but I’d argue it should be viewed more from "useful” development one. Like reading a fiction book vs a non-fiction.
Tangent5280@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I don’t entertain media with clickbait titles, and you shouldn’t either.
jayandp@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
AlexisFR@jlai.lu 11 months ago
No because this kind of shit will never be a thing.
fjordo@feddit.uk 11 months ago
I spend enough time at work during the day, I’m not letting some manager take my sleep from me too. Fuck that.
ubermeisters@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Can HR fire me for having a naughty dream about a coworker now then 😵💫
there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 11 months ago
For a job this would be horrifying. But for my hobbies? This would be cool as all heck.
cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Well this is fucking dystopian.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
You have no idea the shit that’s in my dreams. You wanna see me code like that?
Buckle up, chuckle-nuts.
might_steal_your_cat@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I’m probably not a lucid dreamer, but at times when I write code all day long I may also dream about it at night. Sometimes, I would wake up in the middle of the night and write an “amazing solution” down so I can implement it the next day. Not surprisingly, most of the “amazing solutions” are total nonsense.
HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone 11 months ago
Get your beefbrain shield pro quick, we’re headed into hypnospace
HarkMahlberg@kbin.social 11 months ago
Your waking life for minimum wage and your dreams for free.
prole@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Fuck no
amio@kbin.social 11 months ago
People spend one-third of their lives asleep. What if employees could work during that time … in their dreams?
Great The Onion stuff. Hard to make this shit up.
Cossty@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Imagine if you could study in your sleep… Or “watch” a book and be acually there… Hmm that wouldn’t really work for innner dialogue of other characters…
onlinepersona@programming.dev 11 months ago
Are you really sleeping then? I thought the point of sleeping was to wash away the buildup of plaque (amyloid?) in your brain. IINM the inability to get rid of it is one of the reasons for Alzheimers and dementia.
I would really like to know what they measure and how it compares between users and non-users of this ultrasonic tech. Disrupting brain functionality to be quasi awake might not be the smartest thing to do.
Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
They technique I’ve used to trigger lucid dreaming is noticing when “static” text changes or is otherwise nonsense… so I have my doubts. And zero desire to learn more because I’m full up on dystopias right now.
minnieo@kbin.social 11 months ago
this is gonna go nowhere per usual, the very idea of working in your dreams is fucking horrifying. black mirror type shit.
million@lemmy.world 11 months ago
This concept would make a good episode.
rynzcycle@kbin.social 11 months ago
Rick and Morty already did it.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Go get HYPNOSPACE OUTLAW on Steam now EVERYONE GO DO IT
ZANE RULEZ
pdxfed@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Followed quickly by the quote “control is what we want”…sure, they mean for you over your dreams, right?
Imagine having the ability to lucid dream and your first thought is, great, more time with Excel!