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winget install Mozilla.Firefox
No need to even open Edge or Chrome
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Submitted 1 year ago by L4s@lemmy.world [bot] to technology@lemmy.world
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zarlin@lemmy.world 1 year ago
netchami@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Go to the Linux Mint website Download the ISO and flash it to a USB drive Install Linux Mint on your PC Use the preinstalled Firefox and never bother with any Chromium garbage or with Windows again No need to run a proprietary operating system on your computer or use a proprietary browser
poke@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Seems a little extreme for a browser switch
StrawberryPigtails@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
Huh!? I’ll be! Learn something new every day.
Is that limited to what’s in the Windows App Store, or is it using some other backend?
Kissaki@feddit.de 1 year ago
winget has a community repository of installer and utility-zip urls and checksums. It’s not limited to win store.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Windows has a package manager now?
HKayn@dormi.zone 1 year ago
Man I feel bad for the developers at Microsoft who have to implement this shit
tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I wanna be in one of those brainstorming meeting where people thought this was a good idea
conditional_soup@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Ah, you’re looking for the product managers.
ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I don’t have a dog in this fight since I’m a longtime Firefox/Linux (or Apple if I have to sell out) user but I hope people keep doing whatever they’re doing now just to see how far Microsoft goes with the begging.
If anyone is wondering, the reason I don’t use either is: I’m a longtime web developer and I know the value of an open web built on open standards. It’s more valuable than Microsoft or Google. Firefox (and the Mozilla Foundation) basically exist to shame the corporate browser vendors when they get greedy and stray from open standards.
AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I don’t download chrome using it. I think Edge is actually better than chrome, but I use neither. Firefox is where it’s at. I hate this assumption that everyone loves chrome.
bamboo@lemm.ee 1 year ago
It’s really sad because edge is actually not a terrible browser. There are some questionable features that have been tacked on but nothing that makes it particularly terrible. The real issue with edge is the marketing, and Microsoft’s force-you-to-use-it-until-you-like-it approach. It just really sours an otherwise perfectly acceptable browser. Even Apple lets you set a default browser and doesn’t try to trick you back into Safari if that’s not your preference.
WallEx@feddit.de 1 year ago
This was about chrome not being as good, not about edge ^^
treesapx@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Edge is actually really efficient. Over the years I’ve gone back and forth between the browsers as each seems to go through periods of inefficiency.
Darkhoof@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I agree with you. I really prefer Edge to Chrome, just the fact I can have vertical tabs directly in the browser is awesome. But I still prefer Firefox over both of them even if I believe (conspiracy theory) it lags behind Chrome on features because Google pays Mozilla and it is probably in their agreement that Firefox must lag behind in some features.
XEAL@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Because IE was shit so people may assume Edge is just like IE.
Besides, Edge is just a customized Chromium, so it barely brings nothing new the table.
adam_b@infosec.pub 1 year ago
[deleted]SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Seriosly, what mess is Edge! Had to use it once, so many useless buttons and double features!
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yeah I never gave edge a fair shake. Yeah partly because of IE, but also because I’m not going to use a Microsoft operating system to open a Microsoft browser and search with a Microsoft search engine. Especially after Microsoft has had trouble with anti trust in the web browser realm, as well as because they pushed it so fucking hard I got spiteful.
Anyways my spite blossomed into me being a Garuda, Firefox, duck duck go user
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
A few times I used a jump host to search something with edge and got so frustrated and overwhelmed with the search results. It’s then, that I realized, I was using bing. Boxes of shit here and there, 2 search results, some more beyond a box. Fuck me. Just gimme a god damned list.
Sphks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
I loved Edge when it was a browser.
Now it’s a trojan to make you use Microsoft services that you don’t want to use.
netchami@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Now it’s a trojan to make you use Microsoft services that you don’t want to use.
It always was. Windows always was and will always be. The only solution is to switch to Linux and use LibreWolf, a version of Firefox without all the garbage like Pocket and Sponsored sites. It also has uBlock Origin preinstalled.
saltnotsugar@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Crazy ex vibes from that browser.
Kissaki@feddit.de 1 year ago
What a ragebait article. Shit journalism.
When users open and wait for the Chrome download to begin, Microsoft opens a sidebar and presents users with a poll that interrogates users on why they think they need another browser. The wording sounds pretty civil, but it could be construed as a very aggressive and presumptive move on Microsoft’s part.
An optional survey in a sidebar that doesn’t block anything is not an interogation or demand. It’s a question, a request for information.
Their aggressive wording is disingenuous sensationalism.
JTskulk@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Can I please have access to your computer so I can open sidebars on websites that I deem appropriate? If not, why?
Kissaki@feddit.de 1 year ago
Besides the point.
The article doesn’t talk about that.
ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Just shows how deeply edge analyzes the users traffic.
TacoNissan@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Deeply??? It’s as simple as “If url = chrome download, show survey” it’s not decrypting or digging or searching. It’s literally right there. It’s the thing showing you the website. Of course it’s going to know what site that is.
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Why the fuck is it detecting the download at all?
It has zero business doing anything like that. It’s monitoring a “competitor” via your fucking computer.
That’s the fucking problem, not the fucking size of the sidebar. It’s the fact that it exists at all
Kissaki@feddit.de 1 year ago
Dunno what you’re addressing. Neither me nor the article talked about the size of the sidebar.
conditional_soup@lemm.ee 1 year ago
The last time I downloaded chrome, I got two of three separate little “no, wait, pls, I’m a desperate, thirsty data slut and I need your data from as many places as possible, don’t give it to Google instead!” alerts.
Kissaki@feddit.de 1 year ago
That’s not what the article is about though. Nothing like that is mentioned in the article.
jcdenton@lemy.lol 1 year ago
I can’t believe people are still actively choosing chrome over Firefox
WallEx@feddit.de 1 year ago
Yeah, not using edge and then going to chrome is a little weird, as it’s essentially the same browser, just a different company that gets your data.
the_third@feddit.de 1 year ago
People don’t care about a lot of things. One gets used to it.
nobleshift@lemmy.world 1 year ago
[deleted]teamevil@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That’s all I’ve used Explorer/edge for, for the last 15 years.
xkforce@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Edge is chromium based. So asking why you dont use it is valid.
deegeese@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Since never has it been valid for software to disobey the user’s instructions and interrogate them.
SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 1 year ago
I’m sorry, Dave. I’m afraid I can’t do that.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Market research yes, baking advertising begging into your os, no
Kanda@reddthat.com 1 year ago
Why bother downloading Google chrome when you’re already on Microsoft chrome?
JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Because “microsoft browser bad” is how it’s always been. It’s like the story (afaik it’s made up) about the five monkey punishment lab test, at this point most people don’t have a clue why anymore.
asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Never owned a Windows computer and never will. I have no idea why anyone puts up with bullshit like this. On Linux, I tell it to install something and it just ducking does what I say. Don’t even need an account.
DanL4@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Unless it requires a different version of node.js that cannot be upgraded as it requires an older version of some other software, but cannot be upgraded because that other software needs just that particular version and will stop working if you dare upgrade, so you choose to upgrade anyway, so your package manager refuses to upgrade anything now because you broke something just to get that new software to work.
I love linux, and until recently used it exclusively on my own computers, I know all/most of these are solvable, but as a long time novice who’s sick of fixing these things, it’s a real life scenario.
I currently choose between upgrading my browser (which refuses to load several accounts as long as it’s not upgraded) and software I use as a hobby which won’t work if I let synaptic package manager fix whatever it deems broken.
Currently using windows almost exclusively for day to day work, and dual booting mint for one single purpose. Hating windows with a passion while doing so but life is too short to fix dependencies…
Kualk@lemm.ee 1 year ago
You are best served by NixOS.
Normally Arch or Debian is a great option, but not this time.
AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Have you considered installing the browser as a flatpak or something if you have a specific dependency clash between the browser and your other software?
smolyeet@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’d rather deal with windows and this than to use Linux. Apparently a survey is doing too much
SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
It’s more about it being the needle that breaks the camel’s back. Windows does tons of small shitty things, and they keep adding more.
snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Right now? Mainly just used to it and haven’t felt like messing with my computer to that degree in a while. In the past it was because of a lot of programs that only work on windows, also games.
applejacks@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Edge is actually better than Chrome, but I wouldn’t recommend either.
Candybar121@lemmy.world 1 year ago
[deleted]applejacks@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Edge has way more useful features, while both browsers are bloated messes with tons of spyware.
Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Microsoft shareholders are demanding more and thus they are getting desperate.
Soap10116@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Spite! Spite is the word of your undoing!
faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 1 year ago
Actually at this moment I spite Google more than I spite edge. Like if there were only two browsers in universe and my Firefox was gone. I’d use edge as I hate Google more atm.
gaael@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Edge is basically Chrome with a Microsoft skin, btw.
soggyoreo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Eeeeevvvry damn post about browsers I see the same garbage posts about using Firefox. You have become the vegans of the browser wars.
sizzler@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You mean the ones the right side if history?
teamevil@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Fuck me…I never left Firefox…I never liked/trusted chrome and fuck explorer/edge. I’m not a vegan…right‽
SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
Then don’t use it, but don’t complain when your experience inevitably gets worse.
I don’t get why people have such a need to be contrarians for stuff that is in their own best interest.
LostMyRedditLogin@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Microsoft needs to be broken up for being a monopoly.
LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Hurry hurr MS bad. Edge is great. Google bitches like an insecure former partner every time you open Google shit on edge.
modifier@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Because fuck you that’s why
burliman@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I just can’t stand being pushed on something constantly. I don’t use Edge out of spite. I can be honest about that.
hoot@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
I’d rather use Edge than Chrome.
But basically screw everything except Firefox at this point!
nezbyte@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Edge gets some points for having a horizontal to vertical tab layout switching button. It’s still no Tree Style Tabs on FF, but better than whatever Chrome ships with.
QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Do you find it annoying that Tree Style Tabs does not hide the “regular” tabs? My only problem with it.
DanL4@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Pretty sure I used to have a tree style tab view, using a plugin. Is that what you meant or is a plugin a privacy issue?
draughtcyclist@programming.dev 1 year ago
Exactly. The only point it wins from me is AD identity integration in a work environment. Other than that edge and chrome are the same garbage.
Edge at work, FF everywhere else.
indigomirage@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
I agree.
ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 1 year ago
AD based SSO works in Firefox and is configurable via their GPO plugin templates