Submitted 1 year ago by Wu9fee@lemmy.ca to fediverse@lemmy.world
cross-posted from: lemmy.ca/post/6763330
cross-posted from: lemmy.ca/post/6763328
cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/6137607
now users must use VPN for login lemmy.ml
The great misunderstanding of hard left western folks is that neither Russia nor China are socialist or communist.
They don’t really believe Russia is socialist to any degree, they just support it because it (supposedly) opposes the western hegemony, USA/NATO, etc. Basically the same logic as that of pro-Russian right-wingers.
I had a bunch of hexbear and ml’s tell me russian war crimes in Berlin were “Nazi myths”. Apparently the Nazis had more influence over the world of historical academia after they lost than Russia.
Also other allied war crimes did happen and weren’t Nazi myths.
Supporters of autocratic state capitalist regimes like China and Russia also aren’t left-leaning.
Idk, just last week I overheard a report of an old communist whose life wishes were to visit Vietnam, Kuba and Russia.
They are, they’re just ignorant
I think I’m confused. I haven’t seen any left leaning people support Russia or China. It’s right leaning people that support them. What am I missing? Also I’ve never seen any left leaning people say Russia and China are actually socialist or communist since the 80s or 90s. I’ve seen right leaning people claim that lefties believe that but never any examples in real life.
Left and right is not a defined group, it’s a name and any group can pretend/think they belong to it.
The most support for China is basic materialist analysis: they’ve heavily invested in housing, high speed rail, electric car infrastructure, and green energy. Coincidentally: all rather related.
But that is generally the support associated with China: a materialist analysis, usually, if not always, regarding infrastructure.
Depends which hard left, I know hard/far left people who hate them
China*
Please stop saying “China mainland”. It implies Taiwan is part of China, at least to some.
Please stop saying “mainland China”. It implies Taiwan is part of China, at least to some.
It means without Hong Kong.
Mainland China refers to China sans Hong Kong and Macao, yes. Because you have to distinguish and “Mainland China” is a whole lot less typing than “China but with out Hong Kong and, oh yeah, Macao too”.
The official name of Taiwan’s government is Republic of China, and it’s the continuation of the government that controlled all of China before Mao’s uprising.
So I’m not sure your argument makes sense. They claim to be the legitimaye Chinese government in their own name.
Outside of that very specific context, China == PRC. I understand the history of Taiwan very well, and it’s important for people to understand that they are two different countries.
They claim to be independent, the name is something given to them by (you guessed it) China.
I also read it to mean not HK. Is that not right?
Not HK and Hong Kong.
Also some people in Hainan will refer to the “mainland” as opposed to Hainan island.
It turns out words can be used in multiple ways. It’s not all about Taiwan.
This is too funny. What a great post to wake up to lmfao.
Guess they’re not tankies then.
Not tankie enough*
This is hilarious to me. I haven’t really had much opportunity to interact with them before so just today I got into a discussion about how Americans weren’t the most propagandized people in the world because N Korea exists. Apparently NK is a pretty cool place and I just refuse to believe it bc I’m a propagandized American (oh sorry, they say USian for some reason).
lmfao the Xinny the pooh boot suckers are banned from their favourite dictatorship?
Leopards ate tankies’ faces!
I tested two services that supposedly allow you to check if a site is blocked in China. I don’t know with certainty how accurate these tools are in general, but I can say they gave me the same results for lemmy.ml, hexbear.net, and lemmy.ca. www.comparitech.com/…/blockedinchina/
lemmy.ml, hexbear.net, lemmy.ca, lemmy.world
vpnmentor.com/…/test-the-great-china-firewall/
lemmy.ml, hexbear.net, lemmy.ca. Lemmy.world could not be parsed using this tool, perhaps due to not being set to work with that TLD.
The original post on lemmy.ml has been removed by the mods with this justification:
Removed Post lemmy.ml has been banned in China mainland reason: Not a question
What community was in posted at? I hate how these post URLs don’t show the community in the URL.
It was in AskLemmy iirc. Which, yeah, definitely the wrong place to post that.
No idea. It’s indeed very annoying that the links don’t show the community.
That’s fucking hilarious, if true.
Critical support for the comrades in China for having to put up with those instances for so long.
Common China internet L.
“Papa China is just gonna go buy some milk, lemmy.ml, you’re in charge, don’t let hexbear use the stove or any knives wholes I’m out!”
^[disappears ^forever]
Ironic.
LMAO that’s hilarious
💀
Must be doing something right.
That’s my stance.
Heh. Ironic.
Are there any lemmy instances within China? 🤔
Some idiots out there think this meme is racist. Lol.
It was only a matter of time
GONADS125@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m not happy with this development, but I’m slightly amused by the irony being that lemmy.ml is pro-china and has been moderated as such.
Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Hexbear might as well be the CCP propaganda wing, this development is fucking hilarious
Kaldo@kbin.social 1 year ago
I was curious what lemmy.ml has to say about this but it seems the linked post was deleted in the meantime 🤡
Wu9fee@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
The poster was banned for trolling but I saw a comment showing that it is real.
InternetTubes@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I recently commented on memes@lemmy.ml in a post that shouldn’t have been there about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and instead of removing the post they removed my comment while lying about the reasons, and the modlog is full of those. All of lemmy.ml should be considered suspect, and I’m not sure if lemmy itself shouldn’t be as well - anonymous voting, comments removed from communities are also removed from personal user profiles on your user host, no warning when your comments are removed … it’s basically everything that was rife for abuse with reddit, except handed to developers who get the first say about where lemmy is heading who clearly have fringe questionable political biases. I’m considering switching to my kbin.social account - which begs the question, shouldn’t there be an option to migrate user accounts between instances?
Neato@kbin.social 1 year ago
I don't understand why the pro China tanked subs would get banned but not the rest.
ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Even China is embarrassed. You ever had someone defend you but really poorly? Ya.
throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 1 year ago
Right? I and others were also banned from talking about China and Uyghurs on world news on lemmy.ml
lemmy.world/post/5697017
mojo@lemm.ee 1 year ago
How is lemmy.ml pro china?
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 year ago
ML stands for Marxist leninist, which means they love authoritarian regimes that don’t like the US. The number of them that unironically stan Stalin is baffling.
InternetTubes@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Is there really any irony? China has troll factories operating on popular factories like Twitter and Facebook, and those are banned in China as well.