Now that we're finally out of reddit, can we finally get different tag for NSFW and NSFL?

Submitted ⁨⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨mcmoor@bookwormstory.social⁩ to ⁨fediverse@lemmy.world⁩

For the uninitiated, generally NSFW is for sexual contents and NSFL is for gory contents. People may want to see one but not see the other at any time for any reason. I have seen this feature requested over the years in Reddit but it never happens. Maybe now some instance can finally implement it?

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qaz@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Wouldn’t it be better to have more specific tags?

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- CoderSupreme@programming.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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  - Resonosity@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    An advanced search would be so fing good for Lemmy. I realize that the problem is mainly how most modern search engines can’t do wildcard top level domain searches so you can’t really look up posts from lemmy[.]world or etc., but then Lemmy also has wildly variable domain names too which makes searching all the more difficult. A solution for this is so critical for discoverability and usefulness
    
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- Cold_Brew_Enema@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Don’t forget “Musk” and “Trump”
  
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  - aceshigh@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    is it possible to hide those here?
    
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- neutron@thelemmy.club ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Perhaps categories first then the specifics? (e.g. NSFL: Gore)
  
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  - qaz@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Why would you need a category in addition to a tag?
    
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  - ademir@lemmy.eco.br ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I like this one
    
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  - TheAndrewBrown@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Personally I’ve never liked the idea of NSFL. It just doesn’t feel like it has the eighth connotation, it’s wording feels like it’s meant to be a joke when it’s content is rarely funny. I think just using “Gore” or “Death” would be absolutely better.
    
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FrederikNJS@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
It would be wonderful with something more granular than “NSFW”…

I would love if we got something even more granular like a "Content Warning: ".

Examples:

Content Warning: nudity - might be a painting with nude people, might be a photo of nude people, in essence if it isn’t porn, but there’s exposed genitals, butts or breasts.

Content Warning: porn - you can probably guess…

Content Warning: gore - images with gore, people missing body parts, often dead as well.

Content Warning: death - images with people dying, but without gore.

Content Warning: blood - images with some blood, but no death or gore. (often seen in news articles)

Thes could of course be expanded with many more categories if need be.
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- cmhe@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  At that point we get a tag system. Content Warning: politics, Content Warning: bad news, Content Warning: dangerous cuteness…
  
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  - Rouxibeau@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Just use a color to denote content warnings
    
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  - aceshigh@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    i like this one better.
    
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- blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  The first two and the last three are the same lol.
  
  There really isn’t any need for tuning them even further. They’re both already niche enough as is. The people who are good with the two are good with both. The people good with the last three are ‘good’ with any. You genuinely cannot get any of them without the other lol.
  
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  - Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yeah, it’d be better to implement OP’s idea, see how it goes, and then see if there’s need for the others. Gradual changes help admins see what works best, I think.
    
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  - Ser_Salty@feddit.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Idk man, I think there’s a difference between a titty in a painting and triple anal piss porn
    
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  - AssPennies@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    The first two and the last three are the same
    
    I read that as “all five are the same”. And I’m like damn, don’t want to work in a slaughterhouse if that’s true for you!
    
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  - oyenyaaow@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Intensity warning is a good thing. Though it does make tagging complicated, but in this case overlapping tags would do. blood-death and gore-death and simply death.
    
    probably shouldn’t borrow the exact terms from fandom, but they have tag modifiers like ‘dead dove: do not eat’ which basically means this is an absolute celebration of the previous tag, so gore tag coupled with that tag is gore intensified to the max, while they also use tags ‘slight mentions of gore’ for only a bit of gore. but if you filter out gore both would still be filtered out.
    
    AO3 runs on open source software and has a very robust tagging system.
    
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- sofazen@eslemmy.es ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Please add violence to the categories. Some videos ruin days
  
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  - Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    That’s NSFL
    
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  - snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Sometimes it’s not even ruin days, there’s stuff that I don’t appreciate popping up when I’m eating for example
    
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darq@kbin.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I would have thought that such a feature would be completely uncontroversial. Really weird that some people seem resistant to it.

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- Chainweasel@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Most of the resistance to it on Reddit was because NSFL content was technically not allowed on the site at all and adding a specific tag for NSFL material could be seen at legitimizing it. But they didn’t heavily moderate it either so I don’t see the point in refusing a tag for it if they’re not going to do anything about it themselves either.
  What really blows my mind though is the subset of people that want a NSFW tag to mean Gore/Death and a separate PORN tag for titties and such. I mean, we already have established terms for those so why not stick with what everyone already knows them by?
  
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- GamingChairModel@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I think the Supreme Court decided this issue in Bush v. Gore, and it’s been controversial ever since.
  
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  - darq@kbin.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Eyyy
    
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- Blank@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Some people get off on shocking others with dehumanizing gore etc. when they thought they were in for a dick pick at worst.
  
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Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’ve always thought, of all the options to warn us that clicking will put titties on our screen, that “not safe for work” was a bad choice.

Like, what if your work doesn’t care about titties? What about the tons of other times you wouldn’t want those to pop into your screen without warning, like when you’re on public transit, or sitting next to grandma?

I’d vote for “LEWD” vs “GORE” or something more clear - users can decide for themselves when it is or isn’t safe.

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- elvith@feddit.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Correct, if you work for e.g. Pornhub, NSFW might have a different meaning
  
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  - TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I can just imagine the HR conversations at Pornhub. “Steve, we have reason to believe that you’ve been viewing non-pornographic material at work.”
    
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  - LemmysMum@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Same if you for for the SEC.
    
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- Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  My job doesnt care.
  
  Of course i cant just browse porn all day, but clicking a random picture onnreddit with boobs?
  
  Nobody cares
  
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  - GamingChairModel@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Of course i cant just browse porn all day, but clicking a random picture onnreddit with boobs?
    
    We should be able to look at a little porn at work.
    
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- DLSchichtl@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  And ffs, make them different colors
  
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AlexisFR@jlai.lu ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Mate we can’t even hide posts

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- vihil@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  (Sync for Lemmy has client side support for that)
  
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  - AlexisFR@jlai.lu ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    As do Connect. Still, it should be a desktop feature, too.
    
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  - zmrl@lemmy.run ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yeah connect has that too. I’d imagine other clients do as well.
    
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dx1@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Having gone through the code a bit, the NSFW handling looks very baked in, so it’s not a small ask.

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- FunnyUsername@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Is that the smart approach, or the easier approach?
  
  I just got done reading a whole diatribe on how everything sucks because the code for everything is just duck tape on top of duck tape.
  
  tonsky.me/blog/disenchantment/
  
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  - TWeaK@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I love it when my tape quacks.
    
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  - dx1@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I think it’s both. Instead of trying to update the codebase with one new database attributes for each conceivable way to tag content, you simply put in facilities to abstract that - “show only posts with tag foobar”, “hide all posts with tag foobar”.
    
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Teodomo@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I don’t care about Reddit (or about growing Lemmy) as much as the average post I see in Lemmy, but if you wanted to migrate people from the former to the latter this is one of the easier ways to help do it. It’s one of those small quality of life things that are asked for periodically. If Lemmy had it it’d be mentioned in Reddit every time people are pissed with the site (which is every day for most sites, including Reddit). It’d be free mouth to mouth publicity for Lemmy

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afunkysongaday@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Yes please and just call it what it is! “Brutal” and “sexual” feg. Because I for one work in a sex fight fetish porn production studio so to me all of this is very sfw.

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- reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Do you make those naked MMA matches that end in sex I’ve seen?
  
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- SalineSolutions@reddthat.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I bet you have some hella interesting workplace stories and hella banal, mundane ones
  
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ZILtoid1991@kbin.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The ActivityPub interface allows it to my knowledge. It's just not widely used.

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Magesticles@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
This is a good idea, anyone who thinks otherwise hasn’t stumbled upon a guy getting his head chopped off when they didn’t want to see it.

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ofk12@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Image

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muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Is this a protocol or a client issue? Would absolutely love to see it.

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meldrik@lemmy.wtf ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Why can’t people not just look at the name of the community and then easily conclude if it’s sexual content or gory content?

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- RagnarokOnline@reddthat.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Real answer? Because technology could easily do it for you if people tag posts in OP’s proposed way. Just one less thing for a viewer to have to think about.
  
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  - Crookclaw@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It would also allow for different filters. Blur NSFW, but not nsfl, or vice versa. Or even only show post of one and hide others entirely, without having to block communities by hand.
    
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- at_an_angle@lemmy.one ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I follow the Ukrainian war. Blocking all NSFW blocks so much of the news.
  
  I want to block porn, not news.
  
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  - meldrik@lemmy.wtf ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    So the Ukrainian war posts should be tagged as NSFL then?
    
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guyrocket@kbin.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Can this be done with the hashtag tags? Does that functionality already support what OP is asking for?

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eeleech@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I think a tag system as suggested by others makes the most sense, as NSFW and NSFL aren’t mutually exclusive.

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synceDD@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
No

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- Frenky_Fisher@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Omg this. Nsfw was ALWAYS not for WORK, nsfl errything else. Dont have to go too into specifics, thats up to subreddits to moderate. Dont sub to those stuff and don’t browse All, or filter shit.
  
  Fuck i, called it subreddits jfc
  
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lemmyingly@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
What is NSFL?

I’ve never seen or heard of it before.

NSFW is not a Reddit thing. It was around and already popular years before Reddit came along.

I agree that NSFW should be more granular but let’s keep the acronym because everyone already knows what it means and I see no reason to move away from it.

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- Vodik_VDK@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  NSFL isn’t as common as NSFW but it’s still an established acronym.
  
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  - lemmyingly@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Apparently NSFL is barely used in comparison to NSFW based on Google Trends; no wonder I’ve never heard of it before.
    
    trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=N…
    
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- aspitzer@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Not Safe For Life. Usually it is something horrific that many people never want to see… Unlike boobies.
  
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DBT@artemis.camp ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Why do we need a different tag when NSFW and NSFL already exist?

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- McNasty@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  NSFL doesn’t exist as a tag. Your only choice is to tag it NSFW.
  
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Cornpop@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Why

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- prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Don’t be a contrarian for a second and thing of the why yourself, it’s easy and good for your brain!
  
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  - Cornpop@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    So leave it be.
    
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- Dmian@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Because people have the right to know what type of content they can masturbate to.
  
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  - Bonehead@kbin.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I thought that was already clear?
    
    NSFL = Gore
    NSFW = Porn
    
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MapleEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Also NSFV for not suitable for vegans for anything involving animals, meat, or animal processing. That way we can tag those posts and if they complain about them we know they’re just raging because they’re insufferable assholes.

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blue_berry@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I think it would be better to add the option to mark posts as “sensitive” or “not save for work”, which are then blurred for the user and appear when clicked on.

The rest should be up to moderation and everything else is just solutionism.

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1984@lemmy.today ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Don’t we have enough sick shit going on with the child porn thing that happened? You want to add a tag for Not Safe For Life content? I feel like I’m in bizarro world.

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Amends1782@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Mountains out of mole hills. Non issue

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