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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨cm0002@lemmings.world⁩ to ⁨programmer_humor@programming.dev⁩

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  • orioler25@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Unions probably would have gone a long way during all this.

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  • megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    They’re all moving to tokens based billing to stop the bleeding. The markets aren’t as willing to let them burn infinite cash on operating expenses anymore. A lot of the private investors see the writing on the walls, that these AI companies are not worth anywhere near the valuations, and propping them up to ensure further datacenter build out to keep Nvidia shares high is costing more than it’s worth.

    A lot of the model providers are lining up for ipos to cash out their initial investors and dump the responsibility of the mess on the public markets. They have to jack their prices to pretty up their books if they want to cash out with an IPO though. The unlimited access for a flat monthly cost shtick was obviously never a viable business model. They’ve all been spending massively more on inference than they’ve been taking in subscriptions, and even with the changes to token based billing, they still will be.

    Anthropic is claiming that they will have their first “profitable” month soon, but that’s actually just a magic trick of book keeping. They’re deferring some cost of compute for a few months, and accepting a bunch of pre payments from customersr. Basically pretending to have high revenue and lower cost by shifting when the payments are made. And then on top of that they’re jacking up prices and thus decreasing their demand with the shift to tokens.

    Everyone is running around rearranging deck chairs on the datacenter titanic hoping they can keep their feet dry a little longer.

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  • raman_klogius@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Palantir calls for aid! Would Rohan answer?

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  • HeHoXa@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Heaven’s Door!

    Open the server and write a query to restore the data!

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  • Kaligalis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    You can’t even properly review the result of burning 4.5k in tokens with just a single senior dev.
    The real limit still is how much high-skilled natural neural compute you got to make sure that the AI output is actually any good.

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  • MashedTech@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Who removed the linked in tag?

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  • shuffle3765@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Firstly why would you pay API prices when you can use the subscription plans for 20x less

    Secondly that much API spend would require dozens of senior engineers using it full time, like you’d be doing the work of an entire, quite large engineering team not a single junior

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  • laz@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Dude my nephew was telling me this an AI company galytix is literally running on Indian grads and claiming to be ai what a scam

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  • Formfiller@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Is this AI jim?

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  • ozoned@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Literally was in a presentation at work the other day where they said someone used 2 million tokens and the next person used 1 million and they were so excited by it.

    I didn’t get it. I asked went 2 million was better than 1 million. The VP basically said it’s not, just costs us more money.

    So why the hell is the presentation acting like it’s a fucking victory?

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    • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      What is a token, anyway? I’ve never seen any mention of them with GPT.

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    • RamenJunkie@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Because AI use is up! The FUTURE!

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    • shuffle3765@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Because it’s a proxy metric for adoption. Currently you generally want your engineers to be using it as much as you can afford to so that they all learn and improve and adapt existing processes etc

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      • jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Which is a stupid mindset.

        “Go forth and burn tokens and your performance will be measured on that”

        Looks like I’m going to make a for to ask for a for every word in /usr/share/dict/words. Look at all the tokens I burned.

        It doesn’t reflect upon business value, performance, or education.

        It’s even worse than the disastrous lines of code metric.

        Their problem is they have no idea what to expect, so to signal affinity to hype, they just measure tokens.

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    • rainwall@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Because they believe that AI will replace payroll, which is generally a businesses highest expense. The more AI usage, the more likely they can eliminate jobs and give themselves bonuses.

      They are excited the way a farmer is excited when his pigs are gorging themselves on grain and getting really, really fat. The farmer is glad to pay for grain because its much cheaper than the money he makes from selling them for meat.

      They are giddy because its almost time for payday.

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      • krisevol@lemmus.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I can’t wait until AI replaces HR.

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      • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        payroll, which is generally a businesses highest expense

        This is something that changed in the industry; it was a investment back then.

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      • Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I wonder at what point government will tax AI use by companies similarly to payroll taxes and incomes taxes.

        If they pay an AI company $150,000 a month to replace $50,000 in salaries, the government then loses all that income tax from the previous employees as well as the payroll tax on $600k a year.

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      • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        At some point capitalism will fail but it will take much longer than we think…

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  • No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Tokenmaxxing goes brrr

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  • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I don’t understand the AI remake of Jim’s face.

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    • S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Maybe is part of the joke.

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    • Mesa@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Thanks for the sanity check. This fool’s looking like Jim post-Made in Heaven.

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  • ralph@lemmy.mayer.rocks ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    And they still don’t earn money except the pickax dealers. Also, I’m out of popcorn

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  • Maultasche@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    And Rohan will answer!

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  • Grimy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Even with the most expensive subscription, that’s about 750 devs being serviced by that amount of API money. I think 1 Rohan isn’t going to get you much.

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    • rainwall@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Subscriptions are moving to usage based. Ain’t gonna be $200/month/Dev soon. Gonna be $3-4k/month/Dev.

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      • SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Not many people are paying attention to this. I manage my companies Ai policy and plan. Yesterday I checked the Copilot pricing preview and it did not look good. We do not use it heavily and it is going to cost us 2x. People should be prepared to go back to trad coding.

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      • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        And once the AI actually have to earn money instead of burning billions each year, it’s gonna become a lot more expensive still and then more and more each year. Line must go up after all.

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  • LovableSidekick@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Exactly. Managers live in a golden age right now where social media automatically blames their fuckups on AI.

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  • Witchfire@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Rohan should demand at least double that to return

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  • zewm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Is the face AI morphed or something? It looks uncanny valley weird.

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    • kevin2107@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      bruh it’s Rohan from the office

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    • ech@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Definitely was. Changed has lips, nose, even his hair.

      lemmy.ca/…/db800eba-6e5e-4bd5-8950-6a5e2c8ab73a.p…

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      • Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Maybe it’s just me, but it look like poor compression

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      • Lumisal@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I expected the Mr. Bean Photoshop version 😂

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    • titty_wizard@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Image

      Jim halpert looksmaxxing in 2026

      Dasgustin

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    • bert_macklin_fbi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I don’t think it registered until I read your comment. Maybe compression artifacts or something? Either way, I don’t like it.

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  • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    At least some times Rohan gets it right, and they get it more right over time.

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    • Rooster326@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Besides do you have any idea how many Rohan(s) we can afford at $150,000/month?

      🔄

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      • DosDude@retrofed.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        A whole riders worth.

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      • _lilith@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        33

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    • tdawg@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I meeeean yeah, but also there are just some people who don’t work out

      I do prefer that over bots on everything tho. It’s getting rather exhausting

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  • DahGangalang@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I’m unclear what Rohan is in reference to. Can I get an explainer on that element?

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    • Thorry@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      See also Mohinder, Rashid and Vishal.

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    • hypnicjerk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      rohan is a common indian name

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    • Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Arise, arise, riders of Rohan! Fell deeds awake, fire and slaughter! Spear shall be shaken, shield be splintered! A sword-day, a red day, ere the sun rises! Ride now, ride now, ride to Gondor! Ride for ruin, and the world’s ending! DEATH!!

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      • DahGangalang@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        This is where my brain went, and I’m like “Naw that can’t be it”.

        Of course its just racism.

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    • zewm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Rohan is the junior data scientist they rehired cause it’s cheaper than AI.

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    • esc@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Well, you know, horses, grasslands, Wormtongue - Rohan!

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