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• captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨18⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  Firewatch has certain choose your own adventure style “What is thy name, adventurer?” questions that it will refer back to later but it doesn’t effect the actual game that much. You get slightly different dialog lines from Horny Boss Chick On The Radio. What did it do that Roger Wilco couldn’t?

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• I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  I really liked the first 80% of Firewatch. The last 20% though… I guess I didn’t hate it, but I also really didn’t like the switch in tone. Without giving spoilers, the ending left me feeling kind of disappointed with how normal it was. I remember finishing the game and immediately going to look if there was an alternative ending, because certainly the game wouldn’t just end like… That.

  Like, imagine working on a big murder mystery where a man was found dead inside a locked room with no windows. You gather tons of clues, interview countless people searching for a motive, spend a lot of time putting together all the clues and… It turns out he simply tripped and hit his head.

  Like, there’s still a mystery. There’s still a good story. It’s not even a really bad ending, it’s just not nearly as exciting as where you thought it would lead.

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  • null@lemmy.org ⁨46⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    The ending is perhaps wrapped up a little too perfectly. You look at something like Twin Peaks and you know who did it, but it ends in whatever the opposite of wrapped up perfectly is and people talk about it for decades.

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• makyo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Huh new subgenre? I always considered it already part of the well-established genre of narrative driven walking simulators.

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  • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah I don’t know that Firewatch was a significant divergence from the rest of the walking sim genre, let alone establishing is own subgenre. But it is weird that there did seem to be a bubble of these sorts of experiential/narrative walking sim games for a minute. Some of them pretty popular. Firewatch, Gone Home, The Stanley Parable, etc. Maybe 10ish notable titles all within the few years between 2013-2017. Then nothing significant for nearly a decade now. But thank God we’ve had 40 more online battle Royale shooters since then!

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• IWW4@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Firewatch was such an awesome game, bit short though.

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  • Flatfire@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    I feel like it was the right length so as not to overstay its welcome. It’s a nice narrative experience, with a unique dialogue, but had it kept going I think I would have grown tired of it

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    • Agent_Karyo@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      I also wanted more, but I think you are right, it’s paced exactly right for what it is.

      Sometimes less is more.

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• bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  I loved that game so much

  Hey devs. Make games like this and I’ll pay full price for all of them.

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• justdaveisfine@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I got to admit - I only played Firewatch briefly (~20 minutes). I just remember walking around and replying to a lady on the radio before stepping away and never jumping back in.

  It seems I missed what the reactive storytelling was supposed to be about.

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  • Elting@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Its the kind of game who’s value can be gotten out of a youtube video. It was hardly the first game of that subgenre either, Gone Home comes to mind.

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    • Zoomboingding@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s been like 10 years, but I still feel guilty I never bought Oxenfree after watching a Lets Play. I did get the sequel.

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• Sat@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I think they had something great there, I very much enjoyed playing it but the ending was so awful that every time I see a game that looks similar, I do not engage with it.

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  • AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Hated the ending. I thought the game was finally about to get good, then it was the end, and a bad one.

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    • XeroxCool@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      I thought it was a clever take on why isolationism leads to theories and assumptions about everyone else. The rangers are isolated and created their own paranoia. Obviously, they couldn’t readily get more information, so it’s not their fault for being in the dark.

      The only thing I specifically didn’t like about the ending was how this whole manifesto of sorts was presented. I get that it gives closure on the writer’s intended narrative, but it admits a lot of legal guilt for the antagonist.

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    • foodandart@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Kinda grim definitely. Rather like life.

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    • THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Kind of related, but Gears of War 4 and especially 5 did the same exact thing to me. Talk about a right kick in the dick.

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  • Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I feel like the theme of “The hero being disappointed with the reality of their mission” has good ways of executing that are hard-hitting rather than just dismal. Spec Ops: The Line, The Fall, Papo & Yo, and The Sexy Brutale were all great iterations of this, building up to harsh late-game revelations.

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• howler@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I enjoyed the game quite a bit. It told a weird story that i enjoyed, in a small game world that i enjoyed being in. It could have been better in many ways, but id go so far as to say i loved it. As a game to just chill and play, without needing to be on your guard all the time, it was relaxing and entertaining. It was like reading a good book, you wanted to see what happened next.

  Im not sure that id want for this style of gaming to be the next big thing, but I would have liked to have seen that style built on. Its a shame Campo Santo disappeared into Valve… I had hoped that Valley of the Gods would still see the light of day, but he says thats unlikely. Its a shame that Valve devours great game makers, then they never make games.

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• Jax@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Odd, Firewatch was entirely forgettable for me — I don’t think I agree that it should have sparked a subgenre.

  Should it be influential? Yes, I think they did a very good job with the dialogue. Am I surprised there aren’t ‘Firewatch-likes’? No.

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• ag10n@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Valve bought Campo Santo and Valley of the Gods got out on Valve Time.

  They don’t make games like this because the people got put into other projects.

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• thingsiplay@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  What does “reactive storytelling” mean? I didn’t play Firewatch.

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  • Zoomboingding@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I guess it’s the combination of two industry gameplay types: “voice on the radio” like in Bioshock, and “branching dialogue trees” like in Mass Effect. You choose when to start a dialogue with your counterpart over the walkie-talkie after things you notice, or you can choose not to mention something.

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