Submitted 12 hours ago by throws_lemy@reddthat.com to technology@lemmy.world
https://reclaimthenet.org/new-york-bill-would-force-age-id-checks-at-the-device-level
New York just proposed the most invasive state-level age verification bill the US has seen. Senate Bill S08102 would extend age verification requirements down to the device itself: internet-connected devices, operating system providers, and app stores would all be required to implement what the bill calls “age assurance” before users can access their own hardware and software ecosystems.
Fuck these oligarchs trying to solve a parenting problem with technology and eroding everyone’s privacy.
“Child advocacy groups”, funded by billionaires.
If you can’t see it, you need to peel back a few more layers.
Politicians who unwaveringly support The King of the Pedophiles and a serial rapist think want me to believe they’re “protecting the children.”
This is a clearly coordinated attack on the civilians to get more data to sell and spy on them.
This isn’t a coincidence that these bills pop around at the same time.
Fuck these people
I can’t believe all of you who are opposed to this. Won’t you think of the poor data brokers who’s entire library of intimate personal details about every person who’s ever used a smartphone is practically worthless without the ability to link it to your actual identity.
Screw the children, think of the shareholders you monsters.
Parents can age check their kids manually. We should not identify every user on the internet.
… I really don’t want to have to stop using all fucking technology now. Ffs this is absolutely disgustingly absurd. EVERYTHING GETS HACKED I am not tying my ID and real name to literally everything I do on an electronic device…
Sorry, but they handed out pamphlets at Davos.
Well not actually Davis, a more important event that nobody’s heard of.
I’m usually left of centre, even a bit more to the left than that.
But all these liberal places passing these laws… They’re making it difficult not to change teams.
I don’t watch conservative mouthpieces on YouTube, just the literal reality of these badly thought-of, privacy nightmare laws… All a conservative would have to tell me is they would revert this, and I’d be hard pressed to vote otherwise.
They’re not getting the memo are they…
What a crazy hypothetical you made up, “left of center”, considering the Republican party was pushing for federal ID verification for online services years before Democrats caught up to speed. Red states brought this up first and resulted in multiple porn sites banning users in those states.
But yes, online censorship and corporate surveillance is a bipartisan issue in the two party system of fascists. You will not be able to “vote” these issues away.
for starters, democrats are not leftists.
Lol that’s like saying you’d vote in favor of voter suppression laws in exchange for gun rights… yeeaaah no don’t do that lol
Don’t trust conservatives
Apparently Louisiana was the first state to really push for this kind of stuff so I seriously doubt conservatives in government would stop pushing stuff like this either.
It’s one of those things that’s going to be inevitable… It’s always “FoR tHe KiDs” but it’s really about knowing exactly what every citizen is doing at all times so they can come after you for whatever displeases them.
Lobbying remains more powerful than carefully considered debate.
snd more powerful than voting.
You could say that capitalists have seized the means of democracy, and most of the worlds political class are just a vassal to exert their will over all of us.
We’re going to PROTECT Children by Arresting Epstein’s Associates! NOT Bombing Schools! Arresting ANY Pedophile in the Epstein Files! Making the BEST Childhood Vaccines available! having Jeffrey Epstein’s Friend Peter Thiel track Adults!
Fucking cockroaches
before users can access their own hardware
So the New yorkers can’t buy computers and mobile phones anymore.
So what.
Go back to do everything on paper. No more invoice through email and payment. Demand everything comes on paper. Pay cash. It drives corpos and administration crazy to go back to old school systems. It’ll probably do more than complain.
At this point, I’d be thrilled if just one thing – elections – went back to paper. I feel like paper ballots would have solved at least some of this current insanity already.
I don’t know how common this is but in my state the machine is digital but it prints out a filled, paper ballot. That’s what gets counted and not the voting machine data itself (which hopefully doesn’t keep its own tally).
“Elon knows those vote counting computers!”
My head is going to explode
Now, I’m definitely not the smartest with this topic, but identification would be better at the device level than the cloud, right?
How are you verifying the age at the device level? Unless it allows you just say your age, then it will require sending personal information to some ‘verifying authority’. Every age verification push is just an expansion of the surveillance state.
Anything the state does to ‘protect kids’ is bullshit until they ensure every child has food, medical care, proper education, housing, etc.
I’m not advocating. I’m asking a question. Not making a statement.
yes yes yes hammer on the head
Why do we need it at all?
Won’t somebody please, think of the children
The device still syncs with the cloud for the first verification at minimum so the data is out there anyway.
Look at it from the other direction: Why do most large software vendors now require “The Cloud” for licensing instead of it being on the Device?
So, if the Local can inevitably be tampered with or bypassed (just like other parental controls which they apparently think aren’t sufficient) what really is the point? Children’s safety isn’t improving. Who’s benefiting?
Not that “The Cloud” is safer or in any way better. Just trading liability, culpability, and making enforcement more difficult to bypass. “Oops, lost your data, we’re really [not] sorry. Here’s $2, get yourself something nice. No, no, you still have to give us your data and pray it doesn’t happen again. We promise it won’t. Maybe.”
no this creates serious privacy concerns. The people solving the problem are the ones causing the problem. They want to control you and crush free speech. Just stay in the saddle lean in and learn more. This will destroy anything left that is good about technology.
aceshigh@lemmy.world 1 minute ago
Children aren’t purchasing their devices, adults are, so why would an adult need to prove that they’re over 18? They can just state that the individual receiving the device is under 18…. Oh so you’re saying it’s not actual about the safety of children?